Genesis vs 12 second Camaro
12-09-2012, 01:56 PM
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I don't get it. So a 106 trap camaro beat a 104 trap genesis. Seems about right, is there an argument here I'm not seeing?
oh and juice what is your definition of beating up on an ls1 car? To me beating up means it pulls them by quite a bit with ease.
oh and juice what is your definition of beating up on an ls1 car? To me beating up means it pulls them by quite a bit with ease.
12-09-2012, 02:01 PM
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12-09-2012, 02:02 PM
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I just wana make sure i understand.
Countless times u have corrected anyone who incorrectly compared the older model to the "much faster and improved" 2013 Gen.
Yet here u think "your friends" 2010 was capable of times u ran in tje 2013..
Make up your fkn mind dude.
http://www.cobaltss.net/forums/war-s...ml#post5049541
Countless times u have corrected anyone who incorrectly compared the older model to the "much faster and improved" 2013 Gen.
Yet here u think "your friends" 2010 was capable of times u ran in tje 2013..
Make up your fkn mind dude.
We pinned this car to run a 13.55 @ 103.5 in 'good' conditions. At zero or negative DA I could see a 104-105 trap. The Cobalt just can't 60' like the the Genesis, and the Genesis just can't trap like the Cobalt. However the race (albeit still VERY close) should be even closer at sea level. Even with the huge disadvantage the Genesis was still within a quarter second of the GMS1 Cobalt.
12-09-2012, 02:05 PM
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I just wana make sure i understand.
Countless times u have corrected anyone who incorrectly compared the older model to the "much faster and improved" 2013 Gen.
Yet here u think "your friends" 2010 was capable of times u ran in tje 2013..
Make up your fkn mind dude.
http://www.cobaltss.net/forums/war-s...ml#post5049541
Countless times u have corrected anyone who incorrectly compared the older model to the "much faster and improved" 2013 Gen.
Yet here u think "your friends" 2010 was capable of times u ran in tje 2013..
Make up your fkn mind dude.
http://www.cobaltss.net/forums/war-s...ml#post5049541
This was before we learned that the Delphi PCM in the Genesis is much like the PCM in the Cobalt where it adjust the timing curve (Cobalts adjust boost) to keep tq under a certain level. It's not as vicious of a correction like the Cobalt's is but it is there none the less.
The 2010 would have picked up some time, how much we don't know for sure.
12-09-2012, 02:06 PM
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are you ******* kidding me????? he is still here!!!!! what in the seal-clubbing **** is going on?
Also how did the track story differ from the highway story, the camaro still won. buy about what it should have. ::::: IIIIIIIFFFF this race even existed.
ya know what Ju1ced, dont post anymore stories. yours suck. theres never proof, and you just dodge questions.
you are one of the main reasons i dont come to LS1tech much anymore.
Also how did the track story differ from the highway story, the camaro still won. buy about what it should have. ::::: IIIIIIIFFFF this race even existed.
ya know what Ju1ced, dont post anymore stories. yours suck. theres never proof, and you just dodge questions.
you are one of the main reasons i dont come to LS1tech much anymore.
12-09-2012, 02:11 PM
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are you ******* kidding me????? he is still here!!!!! what in the seal-clubbing **** is going on?
Also how did the track story differ from the highway story, the camaro still won. buy about what it should have. ::::: IIIIIIIFFFF this race even existed.
ya know what Ju1ced, dont post anymore stories. yours suck. theres never proof, and you just dodge questions.
you are one of the main reasons i dont come to LS1tech much anymore.
Also how did the track story differ from the highway story, the camaro still won. buy about what it should have. ::::: IIIIIIIFFFF this race even existed.
ya know what Ju1ced, dont post anymore stories. yours suck. theres never proof, and you just dodge questions.
you are one of the main reasons i dont come to LS1tech much anymore.
I apologize... didn't realize I was dealing with someone who has no brain cells.
12-09-2012, 02:17 PM
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So a new Genesis gets pulled up top by a bolt-on LT1. Are we supposed to be impressed with the Genesis now or something? If he hung with that LT1 from a dig, THEN that would be something to talk about, but with the LT1s super-duper top end...yea. Gimme a fukn break.
My A4 LS1 ran 12.5 at 110 with just a lid, tune, and cat-back.
So how do you figure that LT1 is regularly pulling LS1s when it only traps 106? Once I had the mods that LT1 had, I was at 12.22 at 114.
My A4 LS1 ran 12.5 at 110 with just a lid, tune, and cat-back.
So how do you figure that LT1 is regularly pulling LS1s when it only traps 106? Once I had the mods that LT1 had, I was at 12.22 at 114.
12-09-2012, 02:22 PM
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So let's recap.
Genesis beats a4 LS1 from ~50 roll by about a car. This is BS cuz no videos
Same thing with a Mach-1, BS cuz no videos.
Regal stays even on a short burst from 60-100 with h/c LS1 while running 10psi. BS no videos
Video posted of Genesis running with a 12 second a4 Camaro. Not impressed, stock LS1's run 12.6.
Love it!
Genesis beats a4 LS1 from ~50 roll by about a car. This is BS cuz no videos
Same thing with a Mach-1, BS cuz no videos.
Regal stays even on a short burst from 60-100 with h/c LS1 while running 10psi. BS no videos
Video posted of Genesis running with a 12 second a4 Camaro. Not impressed, stock LS1's run 12.6.
Love it!
12-09-2012, 02:24 PM
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Really? Threads for almost 3 years ago Hugger?
This was before we learned that the Delphi PCM in the Genesis is much like the PCM in the Cobalt where it adjust the timing curve (Cobalts adjust boost) to keep tq under a certain level. It's not as vicious of a correction like the Cobalt's is but it is there none the less.
The 2010 would have picked up some time, how much we don't know for sure.
This was before we learned that the Delphi PCM in the Genesis is much like the PCM in the Cobalt where it adjust the timing curve (Cobalts adjust boost) to keep tq under a certain level. It's not as vicious of a correction like the Cobalt's is but it is there none the less.
The 2010 would have picked up some time, how much we don't know for sure.
At this point 3 years ago u belived the Gen was vry capable but now it pales in comparison.
Then u believed it could run similiar times as a 2013. Now if someone says 2010 u jump down their throat.
12-09-2012, 02:31 PM
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So let's recap.
Genesis beats a4 LS1 from ~50 roll by about a car. This is BS cuz no videos
Same thing with a Mach-1, BS cuz no videos.
Regal stays even on a short burst from 60-100 with h/c LS1 while running 10psi. BS no videos
Video posted of Genesis running with a 12 second a4 Camaro. Not impressed, stock LS1's run 12.6.
Love it!
Genesis beats a4 LS1 from ~50 roll by about a car. This is BS cuz no videos
Same thing with a Mach-1, BS cuz no videos.
Regal stays even on a short burst from 60-100 with h/c LS1 while running 10psi. BS no videos
Video posted of Genesis running with a 12 second a4 Camaro. Not impressed, stock LS1's run 12.6.
Love it!
And I will put buses on your regal from a dig or roll :p
12-09-2012, 02:37 PM
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The amount of tq delivered to the ground through 3rd is what turns this race in favor of the LT1.
In the race with the LS1, it was when the LS1 shifted into 3rd that the Genesis started to put ground on it.
12-09-2012, 02:44 PM
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I don't think a stock LS1 with 2.73 gears or even 3.23s is going to pull in 3rd like this LT1 does with 3.42s.
The amount of tq delivered to the ground through 3rd is what turns this race in favor of the LT1.
In the race with the LS1, it was when the LS1 shifted into 3rd that the Genesis started to put ground on it.
The amount of tq delivered to the ground through 3rd is what turns this race in favor of the LT1.
In the race with the LS1, it was when the LS1 shifted into 3rd that the Genesis started to put ground on it.