TT 5.0 vs H/C/I C6Z
12-22-2012, 08:07 AM
#22
thats true... personally. Ill stick to going as fast as i can with the stock untouched motor. Last thing i would do is a turbo setup. I just dont trust it. Seems turbo cars that dont come from the factory turboed, dont last very long.
12-22-2012, 08:38 AM
#23
unless you have a LOT of money, you will need a power adder to run with the cars of a higher caliber. i agree na is king, but when the same investment in both engines yields a 150whp difference favoring the adder car, it's tough to beat. luckily lsex rotating assemblies are getting fairly cheap, so us el es juan guys are getting more viable options. 500+ whp na can be had with simple, cost-effective setups. then throw a wet 200 on top and you're something to be reckoned with.
unless you have ugr lambo money. then you send it off, write a check, and wait to get your skullfuckmobile back.
12-22-2012, 08:47 AM
#24
i agree with you up to this point. i think how long said motor(s) last is completely dependent on the tune.
unless you have a LOT of money, you will need a power adder to run with the cars of a higher caliber. i agree na is king, but when the same investment in both engines yields a 150whp difference favoring the adder car, it's tough to beat. luckily lsex rotating assemblies are getting fairly cheap, so us el es juan guys are getting more viable options. 500+ whp na can be had with simple, cost-effective setups. then throw a wet 200 on top and you're something to be reckoned with.
unless you have ugr lambo money. then you send it off, write a check, and wait to get your skullfuckmobile back.
unless you have a LOT of money, you will need a power adder to run with the cars of a higher caliber. i agree na is king, but when the same investment in both engines yields a 150whp difference favoring the adder car, it's tough to beat. luckily lsex rotating assemblies are getting fairly cheap, so us el es juan guys are getting more viable options. 500+ whp na can be had with simple, cost-effective setups. then throw a wet 200 on top and you're something to be reckoned with.
unless you have ugr lambo money. then you send it off, write a check, and wait to get your skullfuckmobile back.
12-22-2012, 08:54 AM
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Im not in this to have the fastest car on the planet. There are so many ways a turbo setup can fail. A lot more then just a tune. Id rather stick to being NA and make the car impressive for what it is. Ive always liked being the guy who goes the fastest with the least, then the guy who goes the slowest with the most. And i think we can all agree an NA setup will last a lot longer regardless of expertise tuning. Higher cylinder pressures and temps will always shorten a motors life.
Hotrodding use to be about what you can do.......now it seems it's more about what you can buy.
12-22-2012, 09:36 AM
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Nice post ohio, outcome was a given based on the numbers.
I've always been more of a turbo guy, but the idea of boosting an engine with that much compression on low octane fuel doesn't sit well with me. It's a dance with the devil above single digit PSI.
On E85 however, hells yes. I'd just wonder how long the stock internals will take high compression +boost.
I've always been more of a turbo guy, but the idea of boosting an engine with that much compression on low octane fuel doesn't sit well with me. It's a dance with the devil above single digit PSI.
On E85 however, hells yes. I'd just wonder how long the stock internals will take high compression +boost.
12-22-2012, 11:07 AM
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When I was na it was all about 0-150 times.. Now I'm fi it's all about 40-150 or standing mile.. I have almost no care for digs.. I to was a die hard "do more with less" hence the heads I chose for my h/c c6.. Then I had some more funds come in and possibilities changed.. Went TT.. The rush that you get from a turbo car is like no na car could produce. A 600 rwhp na car is a strong runner but a 600 turbo car is just more fun to drive and the sound of the turbo car is just remarkable.. Its kinda like a 2 stroke dirt bike vs 4... 2 stroke requires more of a driver mod and the power band comes on hard but down low there weak.. Where as the 4 stroke has a more stable power curve and easier to operate
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12-22-2012, 04:24 PM
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Im not in this to have the fastest car on the planet. There are so many ways a turbo setup can fail. A lot more then just a tune. Id rather stick to being NA and make the car impressive for what it is. Ive always liked being the guy who goes the fastest with the least, then the guy who goes the slowest with the most. And i think we can all agree an NA setup will last a lot longer regardless of expertise tuning. Higher cylinder pressures and temps will always shorten a motors life.
12-22-2012, 04:41 PM
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did you read the first sentence of what i wrote? I dont care about being fastest... thats the problem with this hobby. Everyone wants to be on top. I could happily give 2 1/2 ***** about that. I do what I enjoy doing. Thats NA setups. It takes a bit of knowledge to make an under powered car go fast. If i did all that im doing to this car... then added boost... forget it. I wouldnt want a car that fast. On the way home tonight... i rolled into the throttle in third gear at 65mph (testing out my new driveshaft which dropped 26lbs)... absolute smoked the tires off the car. No interest in a street car that would trap any higher then 130... none whatsoever. Im close friends with numerious 140+ trap turbo street cars... ive been in them well into triple digits. I know what im missing out on by not boosting it... and it doesnt bother me in the least
12-22-2012, 05:00 PM
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This hobby is not about being the fastest. Just enjoying hotrodding. I've seen alot of guys get caught building the most badass hotrod ever ......or so they think and then have to sell there **** off because it's just not feasible of affordable for most.
Evan....as far as 130mph traps go......can't be that fast if I'm there with a bolt-on ls6.....lol
With the stock ls7 in it with bolt-ons and a little more weight out I should be upper 130's at this rate.
Evan....as far as 130mph traps go......can't be that fast if I'm there with a bolt-on ls6.....lol
With the stock ls7 in it with bolt-ons and a little more weight out I should be upper 130's at this rate.
