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Old Apr 19, 2004 | 11:36 AM
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i'm running a evo with a after market custom turbo with down pipe...and exhaust...he's my buddy...its not that much bigger of a turbo then stock..he is ok at the launch...i am running a m6...tsp231/237 cam with stock heads...pacesetter lt's...and ls1edit...Bfg DR's...and what my sig says...i'm runing him from dead stop..and on the roll...what do u guys think...he says he runs a 12.7 in qt...what do u guys think..its suppose to be $100 for both races...should i raise the pot or keep it that...thanks
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Old Apr 19, 2004 | 11:47 AM
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12.7 seems awfully slow for an Evo with a bigger turbo. The stocker is usually good for close to 11's with some bolt-ons and tuning. Stage 1 cars run into the mid 12's (ecu tune, exhaust, maybe intake).
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Old Apr 19, 2004 | 11:51 AM
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Well you have the roll race absolutely no problem. His 12.7 is most likely all launch. The trick is his trapspeed. It probably ain't much more than 105 if that. The next question is how long is the dead dig race? Are y'all doing a true quarter mile? If not, then he can definitely take you in a shorter race. If so, if you are on your game, you should beat him. Just what ever you do, MAKE SURE YOU RUN YOUR RACE!!!!!!!!! He WILL blast off the line like he was shot out of a cannon and you WILL be playing catch up. Just make sure you don't blow the tires because then you are toast. Another common mistake in the catch up scenario is hitting the rev limiter as we saw in the ZO6 vs STI video. That chump was on the rev limiter in every gear because his poor little ego was being beaten by that little scoobie.

If he is a good friend, don't race for money. That has a tendency to put a rift between people. The bet that I like is the "bucket of chicken" bet. Whoever loses has to go buy a bucket a chicken for the winner and his buddies. The winner gets to hang with his bros and eat chickien and the loser has to hang around while the winning bunch gets to rag on the loser's ride....all in good fun of course. This bet is alot healthier between friends and a helluva lot more fun. Handing over a C note is just too easy.
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Old Apr 19, 2004 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by FLYNLO
Well you have the roll race absolutely no problem. His 12.7 is most likely all launch. The trick is his trapspeed. It probably ain't much more than 105 if that. The next question is how long is the dead dig race? Are y'all doing a true quarter mile? If not, then he can definitely take you in a shorter race. If so, if you are on your game, you should beat him. Just what ever you do, MAKE SURE YOU RUN YOUR RACE!!!!!!!!! He WILL blast off the line like he was shot out of a cannon and you WILL be playing catch up. Just make sure you don't blow the tires because then you are toast. Another common mistake in the catch up scenario is hitting the rev limiter as we saw in the ZO6 vs STI video. That chump was on the rev limiter in every gear because his poor little ego was being beaten by that little scoobie.

If he is a good friend, don't race for money. That has a tendency to put a rift between people. The bet that I like is the "bucket of chicken" bet. Whoever loses has to go buy a bucket a chicken for the winner and his buddies. The winner gets to hang with his bros and eat chickien and the loser has to hang around while the winning bunch gets to rag on the loser's ride....all in good fun of course. This bet is alot healthier between friends and a helluva lot more fun. Handing over a C note is just too easy.
I completely agree with everything Flynlo said. You will kill him from a roll and don't race for money. $100 dollars isn't worth a friendship. Make sure your tires are warm and sticky when you race from a dig. You won't be able to launch as hard on the street as you can at the track. I would practice a few times just to get it down.
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Old Apr 19, 2004 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 99-LS1-SS
I completely agree with everything Flynlo said. You will kill him from a roll and don't race for money. $100 dollars isn't worth a friendship. Make sure your tires are warm and sticky when you race from a dig. You won't be able to launch as hard on the street as you can at the track. I would practice a few times just to get it down.
maybe ill suggest that to him...we have been friends since freshman year hs...we have race for money b4...but chicken extra crispy sounds good...haha...but well see ill keep u guys posted on the outcome...yes its a full qt mile...and more...but we mark it...sounds like it will be a good race from the dig...also...does anyone know what a yamaha r6 runs in the qt...cuz a buddy of mine wants to run..rookie on bike...wants to run me when i'm done with my car...in about a month...ill have stage II heads and TNT 100 shot...with a 12 bolt 4.10..how bout that race..i know its a bike..but u think it will be close...its jus for shitz and giggles
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Old Apr 19, 2004 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by FLYNLO

This bet is alot healthier

Haha... I beg to differ... Im sure it will be fried chicken, and that stuff is just plain nasty for you. Its good, but not good for you

Oh, and yeah, I would think you would win... if your rear is upgraded, then I would think you should be good for mid-high 11's... With the other stuff, you may even be able to beat that bike, especially since you say the guy is a rookie...
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Old Apr 19, 2004 | 01:26 PM
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Haha... I beg to differ... Im sure it will be fried chicken, and that stuff is just plain nasty for you. Its good, but not good for you

Oh, and yeah, I would think you would win... if your rear is upgraded, then I would think you should be good for mid-high 11's... With the other stuff, you may even be able to beat that bike, especially since you say the guy is a rookie...
since he doesn't really know how to race a bike...he don't know the shift points to well...and his launch prob sucks...i think i might have a chance...i always wanted to beat a bike...hopefully i do...
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 11:18 AM
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When ya going to run him or did ya already? I evo with a bigger turbo shoul be a beast. On a stock turbo you'll wipe him all over the place.
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Joegt38
When ya going to run him or did ya already? I evo with a bigger turbo shoul be a beast. On a stock turbo you'll wipe him all over the place.
ill be running hime next weekend...ill have everything done...heads cam tuning lt's...and 4.10 gears...i suppose to race him and then my boys R6 when i install the tnt kit
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by badazzhawk
ill be running hime next weekend...ill have everything done...heads cam tuning lt's...and 4.10 gears...i suppose to race him and then my boys R6 when i install the tnt kit
Cool, good luck man.
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Old Apr 22, 2004 | 11:54 PM
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your car should easily be a mid 11's all motor car...so from a roll..youll rape his ***, mph is everything on the street, as for the run from a dead stop, i would borrow a set of et streets or slicks, just for that hard launch, when i race the wrx's and evos, i never pass em on the street until about 60 plus mph. and like FLYNLO said, running friends for money always breaks bad, strip his pride away, thats what its really all about, its priceless
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Old Apr 23, 2004 | 09:03 AM
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you dont really have to know shift points on the bike, a decent rider shouldnt even have to look at the tach to know when to shift
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Old Apr 23, 2004 | 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by 1genCamaro
you dont really have to know shift points on the bike, a decent rider shouldnt even have to look at the tach to know when to shift
I'm glad you said that. That is how I feel about a car. If you drive it enough you should know when to shift.
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Old Apr 23, 2004 | 10:24 AM
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i drive my car every day...i'm not the best ever driver...but i know my car very well...i jus wanna see if i can beat a evo and a R6...ill be racing the R6 with a bottle...some people say with bottle ill be hitting 10's or very close to it..well see what happens
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Old Apr 23, 2004 | 06:49 PM
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An R6 with a top notch rider will run low 11's all day.
High 10's with a pipe and a pro.

It'll probably do a little better on the street because it won't want to pull it's front end up so much.

My bike is a bitch to launch at the track. 11.80 at 120, DA around 2665 .

I was running lean (14:1) and launching like a sissy (2.2 60' ).I had to tame down the lauch severely because the bike wanted to flip over backwards when launched.

It's ALOT easier to get out of the hole on the street because I can spin the tire up a little.
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Old Apr 23, 2004 | 09:28 PM
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You have enough power to smoke him easy.
The only thing that's going to kill you is your skill in launching and shifting.
Seen enough cars that competitively take on cars more powerful than them because of difference in driver skill.
Make sure you get a good launch, and shift properly. If you do, you'll beat him easily.

Another word of advice. I've done enough street racing in my time, to have learned the hard way, NEVER EVER pay attention to the other car. In the heat of the race, you get rattled when you see the other car ahead by a car length or two, and give more gas than you should off the line and when shifting from 1 to 2, and 2 to 3 which are critical shifts. I found totally ignoring the other car, and concentrating on your launch and shift points, worked best for me.

Strongly suggest you do this at the track, but if your going to do this on the street, be smart about it. Find an out of the way, secluded street to do it on where you can minimize danger to the general public.

Good luck, and let us know how you do!

p.s. Vids would be nice.....
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Old Apr 24, 2004 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by lerajie
An R6 with a top notch rider will run low 11's all day.
High 10's with a pipe and a pro.

It'll probably do a little better on the street because it won't want to pull it's front end up so much.

My bike is a bitch to launch at the track. 11.80 at 120, DA around 2665 .

I was running lean (14:1) and launching like a sissy (2.2 60' ).I had to tame down the lauch severely because the bike wanted to flip over backwards when launched.

It's ALOT easier to get out of the hole on the street because I can spin the tire up a little.
mine seems to run a little better when almost rich, and if I lean up as far as I can it's not so hard for me to launch as long as I sit down pretty quickly but my bike's extremely heavy
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