***VIDEO*** 2013 GT500 vs Dodge Viper vs Cadillac CTSV vs Nissan GTR
05-15-2013, 01:56 AM
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Thanks for bringing that vid up. GT500 and GTR did 3 pulls. 2 of them werent clean runs(in 1 of them GTR jumped big time and GT500 let it out, in the other pull GT500 missed shifted). So the only clean run was the run thats in this vid. Also some birds told me that he had upgraded turbos as well, which he didnt tell us at the beginning. Also, an inexperienced driver? in a GTR??? I know the owner personally myself, and we got the cars from the shops nearly at the same time. He even also had to chance to take it to drag strip and do runs with it, which GT500 didnt. So hitting the rev limiter in a GTR, I call that BS. Lets not forget which car is harder to drive...
Hope this helps...
Hope this helps...
It doesn't make sense to me that a car that's less aerodynamic, with a different trans setup and making about the same power is pulling up top like that. I've run a 2012 GT with a KB supercharger like that before and pulled up top by a few cars.
05-15-2013, 02:08 AM
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You can hit the rev limiter in a GT-R. Putting the trans in "R" mode in a roll race with a turbo that makes more power than stock is an easy way to do that. I know because I did it on a few roll races myself.
It doesn't make sense to me that a car that's less aerodynamic, with a different trans setup and making about the same power is pulling up top like that. I've run a 2012 GT with a KB supercharger like that before and pulled up top by a few cars.
It doesn't make sense to me that a car that's less aerodynamic, with a different trans setup and making about the same power is pulling up top like that. I've run a 2012 GT with a KB supercharger like that before and pulled up top by a few cars.
Please dont forget that gt500 have different gear ratios,rev limits,torque and many stuff that is different than a 2012 KB GT.
05-15-2013, 03:07 AM
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05-15-2013, 01:19 PM
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05-15-2013, 09:48 PM
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Videos from the GT-R. I knew something was way off. The GT-R hit the rev limiter twice due to inexperience on both of the runs in the video. Makes sense as to why he didn't keep pulling away. Also shows some wins that the GT-R had against the GT500 that weren't posted in the video.
Jotech Ninja GTR vs GT500, EVO, Corvette, and Turbo GSXR1000 - YouTube
Jotech Ninja GTR vs GT500, EVO, Corvette, and Turbo GSXR1000 - YouTube
05-16-2013, 11:39 PM
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Might want to check a Gen IV Viper curb weight again...
Can't do a cam, but ported heads are an option. Fastest bolt-on (headers, ported intake manifold, Mopar PCM) + ported heads (stock compression) Gen IV Viper I'm aware of traps in the mid 130s in the quarter.
Nope.
Mopar offers an off-road PCM that disables the rear O2 sensors and relaxes some of the other emissions stuff + adds 100 RPMs (yes, only 100) that will let you run bolt-ons all day long for the low, low price of about $1,200. The computer can compensate for all bolt-ons + ported heads, no other tuning required. It isn't optimal (still runs rich), but it works.
Not that I'm aware of...there are rumors that people are still working on hacking the rolling encryption, but nothing concrete. The only options are piggyback type systems, but they aren't cheap.
Last price I heard for a full bells and whistles Motec setup was well north of $10k (I've heard $15k-$20k if you do traction control and some of the nifty data logging stuff).
Nope.
Mopar offers an off-road PCM that disables the rear O2 sensors and relaxes some of the other emissions stuff + adds 100 RPMs (yes, only 100) that will let you run bolt-ons all day long for the low, low price of about $1,200. The computer can compensate for all bolt-ons + ported heads, no other tuning required. It isn't optimal (still runs rich), but it works.
Last price I heard for a full bells and whistles Motec setup was well north of $10k (I've heard $15k-$20k if you do traction control and some of the nifty data logging stuff).
05-17-2013, 08:43 AM
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^Basically it sucks to mod Gen IV vipers. BTW you can get that pos mopar pcm for cheaper than 1200....I got mine for around 1000, still felt so owned when I hit the order button online for that thing.
05-17-2013, 11:03 AM
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10-20K just to tune your car for performance modifications is absolutely absurd. Exactly why I have had all generation Vipers from 1992 but would never buy a Gen IV.
05-17-2013, 11:15 AM
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At this point, it is a numbers game...since they only made around 2,700-ish Gen IV Vipers from 2008-2010, there just aren't enough to recoup the R&D costs of cracking the PCMs. With the Gen V coming out and suffering from the same issue, it might be enough for someone to finally put some time and effort into cracking the rolling encryption...maybe that's just wishful thinking.
05-17-2013, 11:25 AM
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At this point, it is a numbers game...since they only made around 2,700-ish Gen IV Vipers from 2008-2010, there just aren't enough to recoup the R&D costs of cracking the PCMs. With the Gen V coming out and suffering from the same issue, it might be enough for someone to finally put some time and effort into cracking the rolling encryption...maybe that's just wishful thinking.
05-19-2013, 01:19 AM
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For sure, new vipers are awesome
Thanks for the kind words. W/o a doubt the V in the video is my favourite CTS-V
Thanks for the kind words. W/o a doubt the V in the video is my favourite CTS-V
