02 LS1 vs 5.0(11-13)
08-22-2013, 05:33 PM
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More like just a lid away lol. I have seen Lid only 4th Gen LS1's beat stock M6 5.0's. And yes the 5.0 guy could drive. So could the F-body guy. 
I've also seen Lid only LS1's beat A6 5.0's with more mods. Like Intake/X pipe/cat-back. My Z puts about 5 cars on stock 5.0's. All it has is Lid, exhaust and a stock swapped intake mani. And it has beaten a bolt-on/tuned 13' A6 GT by almost 2 cars, from a 40 roll. And we all know how stock A4's just LOVE 40 rolls, haha. It's hilarious watching how butt hurt those 5.0 guys get when almost stock 15 year old F-bodies put a hurtin on their almighty 5.0's. I just wish GM would have kept making a 3,400 lb F-body and stuck the LS2 and LS3 in it. 
I've also seen Lid only LS1's beat A6 5.0's with more mods. Like Intake/X pipe/cat-back. My Z puts about 5 cars on stock 5.0's. All it has is Lid, exhaust and a stock swapped intake mani. And it has beaten a bolt-on/tuned 13' A6 GT by almost 2 cars, from a 40 roll. And we all know how stock A4's just LOVE 40 rolls, haha. It's hilarious watching how butt hurt those 5.0 guys get when almost stock 15 year old F-bodies put a hurtin on their almighty 5.0's. I just wish GM would have kept making a 3,400 lb F-body and stuck the LS2 and LS3 in it.
08-22-2013, 05:36 PM
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Street racing only means so much. Take your lid/exhaust LS1 to the track and see if you can get into the 12s and trap 110mph. Dealing with real numbers, the record times for both cars put the new 5.0 .5s and ~5mph in front of the quickest LS1. But all cars are equipped different. The slowest of the stock 5.0s (full optioned 3.31-geared car) will be a good race with a minor bolt-on LS1, edge to the Mustang. The fastest stock 5.0 (low options) will be as fast as your average intake/full exhaust/tune LS1. But if somebody with a good running bolt-on LS1 runs one of the slower Mustangs, it will be closer. All the scenarios are assuming equal drivers. Which is why it is a much better comparison between the two cars to compare times that people across the country have gotten over the years. It's safe to say that both cars have seen their fastest stock times already run.
08-22-2013, 05:40 PM
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Street racing only means so much. Take your lid/exhaust LS1 to the track and see if you can get into the 12s and trap 110mph. Dealing with real numbers, the record times for both cars put the new 5.0 .5s and ~5mph in front of the quickest LS1. But all cars are equipped different. The slowest of the stock 5.0s (full optioned 3.31-geared car) will be a good race with a minor bolt-on LS1, edge to the Mustang. The fastest stock 5.0 (low options) will be as fast as your average intake/full exhaust/tune LS1. But if somebody with a good running bolt-on LS1 runs one of the slower Mustangs, it will be closer. All the scenarios are assuming equal drivers. Which is why it is a much better comparison between the two cars to compare times that people across the country have gotten over the years. It's safe to say that both cars have seen their fastest stock times already run.
08-22-2013, 05:44 PM
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You KNOW that stock Boss Mustangs have run BOTTOM 12s @ 116mph (hero times). Do you think that your car, driven by Evan Smith, at the best track in the country, at the best time of the year, could run anywhere close to those numbers? You certainly ran well against THAT particular car with THAT particular driver, but to think a light bolt-on LS1 at full weight is any sort of real competition with a new Boss is just silly.
yes and that is very relevant to my conditions and d\a.
there have also been ls1 cars run mid 12's with just dr's. and not all bosses run 116 mph, not even close. many people run 113 ish mph with a boss.
plus, I was driving the boss for those races, and a friend raced my car who never drove it before that. we did it twice with the exact same outcome. neither car spun out either.
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I don't know who would argue that man, but I'm sure some do. The LS1 is clearly the underdog, at least I will say that. However I can see where some 4th gen guys may not give into all the hype of the 5.0. It def deserves some hype, but not as much as some people give.
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GTO has ET streets, 4000 Yank, LTs, tune and a Vararam. Shitty burnout=wheelspin
5.0 has Intake, LTs, tune, and bigs and lils with ET streets.
5.0 ran a 11.9 to my 12.1
Coyotes run hard with little to no mods. End of story.
08-22-2013, 08:26 PM
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and your point with the manifolds? Pretty sure a catback only 5.0 means it has stock manifolds, stock cats, stock tune, stock air intake, etc etc etc...
Take a 100 percent stock f body. Put JUST a catback on it... and remove the spare/jack. Run it down the track. If you can find me a SINGLE f body to ever run 12.4 at 116 with a 2.0 60 ft.... i will stop talking.
But you wont....ever....
Take a 100 percent stock f body. Put JUST a catback on it... and remove the spare/jack. Run it down the track. If you can find me a SINGLE f body to ever run 12.4 at 116 with a 2.0 60 ft.... i will stop talking.
But you wont....ever....
08-22-2013, 08:30 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skMFEISG1_U
GTO has ET streets, 4000 Yank, LTs, tune and a Vararam. Shitty burnout=wheelspin
5.0 has Intake, LTs, tune, and bigs and lils with ET streets.
5.0 ran a 11.9 to my 12.1
Coyotes run hard with little to no mods. End of story.
GTO has ET streets, 4000 Yank, LTs, tune and a Vararam. Shitty burnout=wheelspin
5.0 has Intake, LTs, tune, and bigs and lils with ET streets.
5.0 ran a 11.9 to my 12.1
Coyotes run hard with little to no mods. End of story.
08-22-2013, 08:34 PM
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My friends full weight cs special (3750 raceweight) went 11.8@117 with stock manifolds, stock intake manifold and 0 weight reduction short of his wheels. The stripper model has just a catback and runs 116mph. Imo they aren't even comparable to notches car. Do every little thing they did to notches car...I bet you woukd still see a 5mph trap difference. And the cs did it in 1500da