big hammer

HioSSilver

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281 + 112 = 393. Your engine and supporting pump is larger. You've proved you need more blower or you would be on the stock blower still.
Really ****** fast.......I definitely would not be in the same realm as Lawhead then. Thanks for making that point.
You prove me right over and over.

Puck

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They pretty much didn't. 2v's got stomped, and 4vs were barely even with LT1s even though from personal experience I still give the edge to the LT1 (was about time anyway, since Chevy had been kicking their *** at the track since 92).

LT4s run neck and neck with LS cars, so of course they owned both 2vs and 4vs. Was just a short run with them though since it was built to just hold off until the LS motors were ready.

Just call it like it is. Most GM guys have no problem saying their new **** is kick ***, so why do some Ford guys have such a hard time admitting their old **** was garbage? It doesn't mean anything today and doesn't take anything away from the new 5.0s

HioSSilver

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Good post Puck

ZFreie

If I had to go buy a new car it would be a 5.0

HioSSilver

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A 1LE would be a hell of a package too.

Lawhead

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So your intake adds CI to your motor?

Interesting...

HioSSilver

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Only when it pumps air into it. I don't think there is any arguing that a blower makes a engine think it's bigger. If you don't believe me take your "intake" off.

Lawhead

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So all these 5.3 turbo guys don't really have 5.3s because a turbo is slapped on them and its a "pump" and it "thinks" it's bigger

Or is that false?

HioSSilver

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That's what boost does. No secret there. The fact that ls pick up truck engine's has been 8.0's is pretty amazing.

What makes a engine great is not needing that to be fast.....something the old modulars lacked.

Lawhead

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Boost isn't CI though saying the blower adds CI to the motor is just absurd. Next its gonna be because the heads are so big that add CI too....

There is no calculator that figures out CI that takes what you put on top of the block into consideration. Just another stab at Ford. And the fif gen now gets the title

"Ain't **** without the blower"

HioSSilver

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5th gens run good. My buddy went 12.9 @ 111 with his bone stock. The record is like a 12.5 for one bone stock. Cam only has been in the 10's......faster than you at that point.

To not understand that the blower Makes the engine move more air just as a larger engine would is absurd.

Lawhead

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I'm faster than you so not sure that the "faster than you " comment means much and I've been to the track once with the car to I'm sure your 100s of passes

So answer my question is a 5.3 no longer a 5.3 if it has a turbo because it's a pump and makes the engine act like a bigger motor ?

Puck

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Funny you should say that, made me remember something hilarious I saw that I had to look up...they were using it to actually defend their motors against boosted 4cyls - only on a 'stang forum LOL

http://mustangforums.com/forum/the-r...placement.html

Kind of funny that the very first responder on musstangforums now has an 01 SS in his sig rofl.

Lawhead

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Nope only Ford guys get on Chevy pages and troll..... Never the other way around.....

So you also agree a blower/Turbo is not adding displacement to the engine ?

S8ER95Z

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Stone was never really a "ford" or "chevy" only guy to begin with though.

flattusmaximus78

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According to what he said it is bigger. Bigger engines are also all supercharged.

snake95

Inb4 DOHC is also considered a power-adder.

ZFreie

Optispark = power adder

Puck

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Nope, it just increases the air in the cylinders, albeit more dramatically.

The same argument could be used to say a cam or nitrous increases displacement...both increase the amount of air in the cylinders. Now THAT sounds silly .