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Old May 6, 2004 | 07:45 PM
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Nope. He just went to the web server I'm running and looked at an old webpage I was hosting for a friend.

Aside from the fact that you aren't using the original information (IP address, city of residence) to find my Name/Phone number.
Old May 6, 2004 | 07:53 PM
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I'd say
Davis, James
10 Turner St
Raleigh, NC 27607
(919) 832-3344
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Old May 6, 2004 | 08:04 PM
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Sometimes its really easy to get personal information (mine, for example -- I'm well indexed on many search engines) and sometimes it involves a couple "industry favors"
Old May 6, 2004 | 08:07 PM
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alright, now lets try this, came up with two. is one your parents house?

Cason, Carl M
2010 Reaves Dr
Raleigh, NC 27608-1641
(919) 834-1803


J***** M***** Cason @ ncsu.edu and Carl M***** Cason

Coincidence or not?

This is another possibility.

Cason, Joel I II
1300 Kent Rd
Raleigh, NC 27606-2792
(919) 851-3250
Old May 6, 2004 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by apathy
Nope. He just went to the web server I'm running and looked at an old webpage I was hosting for a friend.

Aside from the fact that you aren't using the original information (IP address, city of residence) to find my Name/Phone number.
I used the city of residence and address to do a reverse lookup. Now that I know your email it will be much easier.

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Old May 6, 2004 | 08:13 PM
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I believe it might be:

Cason, Joel I II
1300 Kent Rd
Raleigh, NC 27606-2792
(919) 851-3250

Here is his work information:

Joel Cason
Computing Support
Office: HA 354
Phone: (919)513-6315
E-mail: jmcason@pams.ncsu.edu
Department of Mathmatics

And finally here is a picture for your viewing pleasure

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Old May 6, 2004 | 08:20 PM
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That's scary...

I hope only you moderators are able to do that!!!

Tony,
no... ummmm.... it's Jack
Old May 6, 2004 | 08:21 PM
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Anyone that knows the internet and has a decent hacking sense can do it imo
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Old May 6, 2004 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBronco
by the way, you understand now kevin after i explained it to you?
Yup...
Old May 6, 2004 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris ARE 360
Anyone that knows the internet and has a decent hacking sense can do it imo
Your opinion is wrong, however.

That is me (albeit a horrible picture), and that is where I work. That is an address where I lived...3 years ago.

Again, you aren't using my IP address and location to track me down. All you are doing is an internet search or reverse lookup. It just happens that my email address has my name in it, like all addresses where I work. If I had put in another email address that I use, like tenthirtytwo@antisocial.com, how would you have "hacked" out my information? You have my IP address, and the city where I live. I am in my apartment right now. Yet nobody can miraculously pull my address. Odd...

My original point was that tracking down an address or phone number like that can't be done. And like I said before, 95% of internet users are hackers. Just ask them.

IP address has absolutely nothing to do with location. It's a pretty ignorant scare tactic, in my opinion anyway. Might as well say I have your IP address, so stop talking or I will blow up your computer.
Old May 6, 2004 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by apathy
Might as well say I have your IP address, so stop talking or I will blow up your computer.
hehe That can happen if you know what you are doing (At least blow up the OS anyways or create a DOS attack to incapacitate your machine)

Hey we use the tools available to us. It was very easy to do.

I didnt even dig deep into your machine to check for exploits.

You wouldn't believe how many universities have TERRIBLE internet and firewall security. It is often VERY easy to glean the current user session from a system remotely. That with the known place of employment/study gives you great ammo to find the email addy and tons of other information...

I do this stuff for a living BTW. (Internet/network security and forensics/investigation)


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Old May 6, 2004 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by apathy
My original point was that tracking down an address or phone number like that can't be done. IP address has absolutely nothing to do with location. It's a pretty ignorant scare tactic, in my opinion anyway. Might as well say I have your IP address, so stop talking or I will blow up your computer.
You are also wrong, you forget that several of these people post from their work computer. With those IP's its sometimes very easy to see where they work, and sometimes all it takes is a phone call to their IT department to report unwanted/threatening activity coming from their source. We've called a few trolls at work before, imagine their surprise.

You are correct that IP address does not have a direct link to location, but we have many, many resources and associates out there which can find you. I didn't say that we used the IP address directly
Old May 6, 2004 | 11:15 PM
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Real hackers don't brag about being hackers. they don't need to.
Old May 6, 2004 | 11:26 PM
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Chrysler owns 37% of mitsubishi and its buying more than a billion's in shares by 2006.

Can't wait for the dodge lancer.
Old May 7, 2004 | 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Excal
Chrysler owns 37% of mitsubishi and its buying more than a billion's in shares by 2006.

Can't wait for the dodge lancer.
uh, we already had that, it was called the eagle talon/plymouth laser.
Old May 7, 2004 | 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris ARE 360
hehe That can happen if you know what you are doing (At least blow up the OS anyways or create a DOS attack to incapacitate your machine)

Hey we use the tools available to us. It was very easy to do.

I didnt even dig deep into your machine to check for exploits.

You wouldn't believe how many universities have TERRIBLE internet and firewall security. It is often VERY easy to glean the current user session from a system remotely. That with the known place of employment/study gives you great ammo to find the email addy and tons of other information...

I do this stuff for a living BTW. (Internet/network security and forensics/investigation)

Feel free to dig into my machine. Again, have at it.

I'm not on the university system at my house. My original point is still valid. You can find information, but IP address doesn't mean jack.

Odds of you actually doing damage to a machine you find are actually very slim. If you do this "stuff" for a living, you should know that. Any machine can do a DoS attack, but the effectiveness of you doing it from one machine is severly limited. Not to mention traceable and reportable to Computer Crimes Division.
Old May 7, 2004 | 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Nine Ball
You are also wrong, you forget that several of these people post from their work computer. With those IP's its sometimes very easy to see where they work, and sometimes all it takes is a phone call to their IT department to report unwanted/threatening activity coming from their source. We've called a few trolls at work before, imagine their surprise.

You are correct that IP address does not have a direct link to location, but we have many, many resources and associates out there which can find you. I didn't say that we used the IP address directly
Actually, unless they specifically prohibit accessing outside sites from work, their work will not care if they are "trolling" your site or not. Work only cares what they are accessing, not how they are accessing it. If their employer doesn't care what site they go to, they won't care if you are posting flames or not. Most IT departments aren't even associated with specific departments. If you contacted ITD at NCSU, they would more than likely just laugh after they hung up the phone.

Again, you can say whatever you want, it doesn't really matter. I specialize in computer security, and I can say without a doubt that you can't find anything on a person that they don't give you. If I was listed on this site with my IP and an email address that didn't have my name in it, you would never find me. This is a fact. If you would like to dispute it, feel free to track me down.

Like I said before, use your "many, many resources/associates" to hackz0r me. I will happily oblige.

I'm not trying to troll, but I feel that anyone using the internet as a weapon is inherently wrong. If someone is bothering you on your messageboard, ban them. There is no need to post idle threats of tracking them down.
Old May 7, 2004 | 02:28 AM
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Did you guys use "punters" in AOL when you were young too?
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Old May 7, 2004 | 06:46 AM
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I agree that an IP address is NOT enough.

I would like to see this...

I can see where allot of the dispute is coming from.

Example: I use Wideopenwest at home and have my own network as well.
When I use the internet I go through my network then WOW's network and use a shared public IP address to browse the Net. That IP address alone would only point to WOW. However the MAC could isolate my machine. However, you would then need to negotiate my network with 2 routers and a switch on a 2000 MS domain with active directory integrated.

I agree that it is either searches on the net and access to our Forum info
OR
A contact you have at WOW.
Old May 7, 2004 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by apathy
If you do this "stuff" for a living, you should know that. Any machine can do a DoS attack, but the effectiveness of you doing it from one machine is severly limited. Not to mention traceable and reportable to Computer Crimes Division.
Did I say I could use only one machine? No I did not. Anyways it's been fun chatting with you

BTW I never called myself a hacker, all I said was that I work in the network/internet security field and know how to use the tools available.

You asked us to post your information and we did.




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