Poppacapp

I guess it would depend on the final weights of both cars then.

ohioborn80

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Buddies 13 weighed 4050 with him in it bone stock. He's 190lbs.

Poppacapp

Mine is 3800 full weight/stock wheels without me in it.

Cwarta

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So an average person in each it's a 50# difference....

big hammer

that's weird. the zl1 is a slow heavy turd but the older gt 500's were a lightweight, high performance bargain.

ohioborn80

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Scales/options

ohioborn80

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To me pre 10 gt500 sucked.

automach1

Why 10?

Poppacapp

Well compared to the 07-09 500's, the ZL1 is still a heavy turd.. you are looking at about 400lb difference. 11-12's about 100lbs lighter than the 07-10, and the svtpp pkg cuts a few more. Like I mentioned above.. mine was scale weighed @ 3800... a ZL1 will be 500more. Thats like the difference in weight between my car and a C6Z06... and we(I) already know I have to push 100rwhp or so more than a C6Z to take it.

Which is my reasoning behind not thinking the 500 in this thread was at 640... or the ZL1 was pushing more than 670... the power to weight just doesn't jive. Either way.. it was a good race. Not taking anything away from it... it is what it is.

Poppacapp

between my 12, and a 13 500 yes.. on average... the 07-10's are 100lbs heavier with the iron block vs. aluminum.

MasterTomos

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Most of the listed curb weights I've found for ZL1 is just over 4,100 lbs, sure, an automatic will be a littler heavier, but not 200 lbs lmao.

big hammer

so that small percentage heavier that the zl1 is makes it a heavy turd but the gt500 is just fine?

islander033

The GT500 is heavy too, just not a turd like a stock ZL1.

big hammer

so 11 second 1\4's are a turd, 12 second 1\4's are phenomenal.

islander033

13+GT500 vs 13+ZL1

There is about 6 car lengths between the 2 best bone stock runs in the 1/4.
The ZL1 comes in second even when using an auto.

If you go stick car to stick car then the difference is about 10 cars.
Yes the stock ZL1 is a turd in comparison.

Once modded the ZL1 can be impressive.

racerfox

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that is only in a straight line race.....

i know corners are new to most of you guys be the zl1 beats the gt500 on the track all day long

Poppacapp

I didn't say the 500 was light. I was comparing the weight difference, vs. how much more power the heavier car would need. Comon' man.. can you not see that?

islander033

Not according to the numbers. I'd give it a tie at worst on the road course tests.

Poppacapp

I just saw a video of a bone stock ZL1 putting down a whopping 444rwhp bone stock on a dynojet....not heartbreaker.... pitiful.

Poppacapp

Ahhh yes.. the new Camaro argument.. but but but... it corners better.... wahh... who cares? Honestly? Since the 60's the Muscle cars(Camaros, Mustangs etc) have handled their issues in a straight line.. at the dragstrip, or stoplight. Camaro is no longer a contender.