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Old 11-25-2013, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
You are trying to make it seem like they were incapable of doing so. If you really think that, I don't know what to tell you...


He was talking about the new Mustang/Camaro, btw.

That was my point.... FORD had to build something other than the GT to compete.

new Camaro vs Mustang could go either way.
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Soooo.
About those 03-09 Camaros ....
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Originally Posted by Lawhead
GT > SS
Boss > 1LE
Gt500 > ZL1


ZR1 > All


Truff hurts
the 1le is just an SS. it's the same thing as a gt with the track pack.

so,

1le > gt

z\28 > boss

gt500 > zl1
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Originally Posted by Lawhead
Soooo.
About those 03-09 Camaros ....
they remind me of those 70's mustangs.
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Originally Posted by Lawhead
Soooo.
About those 03-09 Camaros ....
Waste for sure..... LS1s were killing those too!!!

Stupid Transformer movie glorified those damn things
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Originally Posted by big hammer
the 1le is just an SS. it's the same thing as a gt with the track pack. so, 1le > gt z\28 > boss gt500 > zl1
Having AC > all
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Originally Posted by Lawhead
Having AC > all
the z/28 only comes without a\c if you order it that way.
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Originally Posted by big hammer
the z/28 only comes without a\c if you order it that way.
You tell me how many people are actually gonna by the Z28.....
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Originally Posted by Lawhead
You tell me how many people are actually gonna by the Z28.....

*buy


.....
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Originally Posted by big hammer
*buy


.....
We have another question dodger
Old 11-25-2013, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Lawhead
We have another question dodger
serious? how am I supposed to know how many people are going to buy the z\28? am I omniscient?
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Originally Posted by big hammer
serious? how am I supposed to know how many people are going to buy the z\28? am I omniscient?
It's going to be a limited production car is the point I'm trying to get across.......Kinda like the new LSx Homer is stating about what the Mustangs had to do 93-02
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Originally Posted by big hammer
the 1le is just an SS. it's the same thing as a gt with the track pack.

so,

1le > gt

z\28 > boss

gt500 > zl1

Hate to say it Mr. Law but he is right and I agree. Plus the ILE is a better built car than the GT. 1LE can be had as a base SS too keeping it cheap.
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Originally Posted by Lawhead
It's going to be a limited production car is the point I'm trying to get across.......Kinda like the new LSx Homer is stating about what the Mustangs had to do 93-02
so?


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Originally Posted by Blownbayou
That was my point.... FORD had to build something other than the GT to compete.

new Camaro vs Mustang could go either way.
They built the Cobra to be a better Mustang. Not to revert to the same tired argument, but it is also painfully obvious that Ford didn't "have" to do anything. Now do I wish that they had just skipped the NPI GT altogether and moved every progression of the GT up a generation? Of course. But they chose to focus on other things and make the SOHC 4.6 less of a priority. That was one of many things that Ford did and GM didn't that allowed them to continue production when GM was unable to. And a race between a new Camaro/Mustang most certainly *could* go either way, but the Mustang is still clearly the faster of the two cars. No bias here, that's just how it is at the moment. Just how (even more clearly) the F-body twins spanked the Mustangs in the 90s.
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Originally Posted by big hammer
so?


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That what it now takes GM to keep up with the top dog Mustang is all I'm stating......Its how the companies make better things "Competing"
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
They built the Cobra to be a better Mustang. Not to revert to the same tired argument, but it is also painfully obvious that Ford didn't "have" to do anything. Now do I wish that they had just skipped the NPI GT altogether and moved every progression of the GT up a generation? Of course. But they chose to focus on other things and make the SOHC 4.6 less of a priority. That was one of many things that Ford did and GM didn't that allowed them to continue production when GM was unable to. And a race between a new Camaro/Mustang most certainly *could* go either way, but the Mustang is still clearly the faster of the two cars. No bias here, that's just how it is at the moment. Just how (even more clearly) the F-body twins spanked the Mustangs in the 90s.
the way gm spanked the mustang in the 90's isn't even close to comparable to the slight edge the gt has today.
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Originally Posted by Lawhead
That what it now takes GM to keep up with the top dog Mustang is all I'm stating......Its how the companies make better things "Competing"
you don't like limited production cars?
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Originally Posted by big hammer
the way gm spanked the mustang in the 90's isn't even close to comparable to the slight edge the gt has today.
Oh I'm sorry, I thought I said EXACTLY THAT in the response of mine that you quoted.
Originally Posted by Irunelevens
They built the Cobra to be a better Mustang. Not to revert to the same tired argument, but it is also painfully obvious that Ford didn't "have" to do anything. Now do I wish that they had just skipped the NPI GT altogether and moved every progression of the GT up a generation? Of course. But they chose to focus on other things and make the SOHC 4.6 less of a priority. That was one of many things that Ford did and GM didn't that allowed them to continue production when GM was unable to. And a race between a new Camaro/Mustang most certainly *could* go either way, but the Mustang is still clearly the faster of the two cars. No bias here, that's just how it is at the moment. Just how (even more clearly) the F-body twins spanked the Mustangs in the 90s.
Is that language really not clear enough?
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
Oh I'm sorry, I thought I said EXACTLY THAT in the response of mine that you quoted.


Is that language really not clear enough?
no, you still tainted it!


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