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I am confused.... I thought F-Body's were suppose to be heavy boats, but it comes to find out, my Mach is heavier.... 
I have a good friend with an LS1, he put down 315/330 before his full exhaust, and has not dyno'd it since then. I put down 305/321, and when we run, he is usually about 1 car ahead, sometimes less, and sometimes I pull him. So we are really close when we run, but if he was making more power than me, even before his exhaust, which now he is making a good bit more power, why isnt he just walking away from me? How an I able to stay with him, and sometimes pull him? He has more power, and weighs less..... we are probably equal drivers... I just dont get it, any ideas?
I have a good friend with an LS1, he put down 315/330 before his full exhaust, and has not dyno'd it since then. I put down 305/321, and when we run, he is usually about 1 car ahead, sometimes less, and sometimes I pull him. So we are really close when we run, but if he was making more power than me, even before his exhaust, which now he is making a good bit more power, why isnt he just walking away from me? How an I able to stay with him, and sometimes pull him? He has more power, and weighs less..... we are probably equal drivers... I just dont get it, any ideas? 
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F-Bodys weigh around 3400-3500 lbs from the factory... I don't know about the Machs but I know the Cobras weigh right around 3800-3900 lbs. When I got my LT1 weighed I hit just over 3500 with everything in there, so the LS1 probably weighs a little bit less due to the lighter motor.
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Originally Posted by SouthFL.02.SS
Gearing?
Mach's are running really strong for their advertised horsepower.
Mach's are running really strong for their advertised horsepower.
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Originally Posted by enisguy
F-Bodys weigh around 3400-3500 lbs from the factory... I don't know about the Machs but I know the Cobras weigh right around 3800-3900 lbs. When I got my LT1 weighed I hit just over 3500 with everything in there, so the LS1 probably weighs a little bit less due to the lighter motor.
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Another thing to think about is where the power is in the RPM range. LS1s are very much top-end oriented motors, and the mod motor in the Mach 1s are very good lowend cars (they're actually more my style than LS1s are 
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Originally Posted by enisguy
Another thing to think about is where the power is in the RPM range. LS1s are very much top-end oriented motors, and the mod motor in the Mach 1s are very good lowend cars (they're actually more my style than LS1s are ).
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Originally Posted by WhiteTXMach
I have thought about that, and we always run to about 120 or so, from 40-120, or 60-120, usually he pulls me about a car, by 120, sometimes I pull him though.
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Originally Posted by WhiteTXMach
I thought F-Body's were suppose to be heavy boats, but it comes to find out, my Mach is heavier.... I have a good friend with an LS1, he put down 315/330 before his full exhaust, and has not dyno'd it since then. I put down 305/321, and when we run, he is usually about 1 car ahead, sometimes less, and sometimes I pull him. So we are really close when we run, but if he was making more power than me, even before his exhaust, which now he is making a good bit more power, why isnt he just walking away from me? How an I able to stay with him, and sometimes pull him? He has more power, and weighs less..... we are probably equal drivers... I just dont get it, any ideas?
I have a good friend with an LS1, he put down 315/330 before his full exhaust, and has not dyno'd it since then. I put down 305/321, and when we run, he is usually about 1 car ahead, sometimes less, and sometimes I pull him. So we are really close when we run, but if he was making more power than me, even before his exhaust, which now he is making a good bit more power, why isnt he just walking away from me? How an I able to stay with him, and sometimes pull him? He has more power, and weighs less..... we are probably equal drivers... I just dont get it, any ideas?Did he also get LT's? If so he might not have gained much unless he was tuned. I'm guessing he just got a catback which could have him up another 5 to 15 hp and about the same in torque. The weight difference between the 2 cars is minimal. I have no clue how a car with lower hp, similiar gearing, which weighs the same can keep up?
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Originally Posted by Dal1as
Did he also get LT's? If so he might not have gained much unless he was tuned. I'm guessing he just got a catback which could have him up another 5 to 15 hp and about the same in torque. The weight difference between the 2 cars is minimal. I have no clue how a car with lower hp, similiar gearing, which weighs the same can keep up?
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Jon - My Cobra weighs 3,680lbs without me in it. Not too bad. Not too good either though when my big *** gets in. I should have my g/f start racing people. That around 125lbs saved.
My Z28 weighed 3,400lbs. 3,650lbs with me in it.
My Z28 weighed 3,400lbs. 3,650lbs with me in it.
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He got longtubes, O/R Ypipe, and catback.
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Originally Posted by WhiteTXMach
He got longtubes, O/R Ypipe, and catback.
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Jon - My Cobra weighs 3,680lbs without me in it. Not too bad. Not too good either though when my big *** gets in. I should have my g/f start racing people. That around 125lbs saved.
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Originally Posted by enisguy
That's not nearly as bad as people say. But how much of that weight is the huge DOHC mod motor ? We just finished up a headswap on my friend's 98 GT- it was only an SOHC but I was still shocked at how big the block actually is.
? We just finished up a headswap on my friend's 98 GT- it was only an SOHC but I was still shocked at how big the block actually is.
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Originally Posted by Dal1as
Then something is wrong with his car or it needs tuned. He should be at around 350 or so hp and 370 pounds of torque. Close to what I'm running and I've raced Mach 1's on 4 different occasions and in each case I pulled them... Hard! 1 even got the jump on me but I blew right by him. Maybe he's trying to race you in 3rd or something. 2nd is good starting gear for a 3.42 geared LS-1 from a roll. My guess is that your friend needs to pick another gear or get his car tuned and checked out.
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Originally Posted by 1genCamaro
he sounds like he sucks at shifting if he hasnt figured out that 2nd would be better....