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Old 05-16-2014, 07:50 PM
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it was a typo. You were comparing the weights and outputs of the ls3 and coyote, so i stated what ls3 were capable of.

Cam only with ebay headers as the only bolt on they have done over 500 whp.
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Ill post this for 4pointslow about the ls3 cam and headers making over 500whp


https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...780&styleid=27
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Originally Posted by 4PointSlow
funny cause i left one of those staring at my taillights on the way home last night... guess your right though. you're always right i forgot. sorry my "y pipe only" imprezza is too slow for you, itll be fenix fast someday though
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Old 05-17-2014, 01:35 AM
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"Ill post this for 4pointslow about the ls3 cam and headers making over 500whp"



I'll post this for you as well. Stock catback. 500 whp. Let the excuses come rolling in.

1badls3 from camaro5 forums, little pee shooter 1 5/8 inch ebay headers and a cam.


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Originally Posted by Arctic
funny cause i left one of those staring at my taillights on the way home last night... guess your right though. you're always right i forgot. sorry my "y pipe only" imprezza is too slow for you, itll be fenix fast someday though
Who has a y pipe? Not me.

WRX's are turds. Same accord vs stage 1 sti(wrong desc)

FTR auto v6 cars are over a whole second slower than the 6 speed cars.

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Old 05-17-2014, 03:49 AM
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The fun has run out on this one, so I'll be looking for laughs elsewhere after this... but fee free to make another 45 or so pages...

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That's just it.....You CANNOT get your furd to LS displacement! Get the **** over it.
Yet, somehow... The Mustang CANNOT BE CAUGHT by the the Camaro... Weird, I know...

All that displacement and somehow, the Mustang has managed to hang F/I on those 4.6L and 5.4L engines, not to mention the Windsor based builds, and run at least 6.0's on 1/4 mile and the LS Camaro... Not so much...

Pretty much. Myself included. The only thing left on my car that is oe SS is the rear wing and some SS badges. I'd be $$ ahead just buying a Z28. Although I do have everything to put it back to oe condition.
Should've bought a Ford... You'd be money ahead instead...

Coyote are great.....4v's just ok.
Tell that to Mercedes-Benz, BMW, AUDI, TOYOTA, HONDA, etc. etc. etc... to include GENERAL MOTORS...

Yep z28/SS basically the same. The SS package was $3500~.......not a $14,000 change to a cobro.
This is simply stupidity... The Cobra was, AT MOST, about $10,000 more than the MSRP of the Premium Mustang GT. In convertible form, it was closer still. Those Cobras also had more equipment than the Camaro SS was even available with, having only, as I recall, 2 options. Oh, and they beat its ***.

Here's an idea... Go look it up BEFORE busting out that magnificently ignorant typing finger...

Now on to the ls9 vs 5.8. If you want to see the true differences then run them at the same boost........but you won't want to see that.

At some point the the ls9 will require a larger supercharger.....because it flows more air. Which is why it can make only 26hp less but on ~4lb less boost.
At some point it will need better rpm capabilities... at some point it will need better efficiency... etc. etc. This conversation is so over your head that we're simply not going to have it. You know about as much concerning engines as I do flying in outer space... I've never been to outer space...

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Ford got bailed out too... truth hurts? Ford also holds the biggest bailout in history. Sounds like they are more government motors than GM will ever be to me...
Ford's loans were not bail out loans. Ford didn't tell Congress it was about to file for bankruptcy if it didn't get help fast. Ford also turned down the "bail out" funds offered.

I have no idea where you heard that Ford holds the biggest bail out in history... Ford was simply not bailed out, period. Chrysler was bailed out twice and did actually file bankruptcy, before your time.
http://useconomy.about.com/gi/o.htm?...s/default.aspx

http://useconomy.about.com/od/critic...to_bailout.htm

Even this one-way article cannot avoid the truth of the matter in the end... http://www.forbes.com/sites/joannmul...-surprise-you/

There are literally hundreds of other articles, but therein lies the truth. Make of it what you will, but you've obviously been woefully misled and it's time to get educated.

Originally Posted by "MAC"
Yup and GM didn't get bailed out to, like ford they was just given money to make better cars
No, actually GM's bills were paid for them... Ford took a loan specifically about efficiency. It was also done at a different time and in a normal manner as opposed to the loans GM and Chrysler got, which were not normal by any means.


PS 4PointSlow: You are one of the most spectacularly LOST individuals I've seen on the internet! on!
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Your right itllrun but they still asked for it for just in case. Also Yes ford holds the biggest BAILOUT in history! Remember the 80s?

http://asavagefactory.wordpress.com/...ut-in-history/
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Originally Posted by 4PointSlow
Cam only ls1's have made over 500 whp with just headers as a bolt on. Show me a dynograph/vid/thread of any coyote with just cams and exhaust on 91 octane doing the same.
Cam only LS1=500whp. Where do you get this nonsense from?

Edit: I see it was a typo and you meant LS3. That much more believable.
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Cam only ls1's have made in that 450-470 rwhp.
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Originally Posted by big hammer
Cam only ls1's have made in that 450-470 rwhp.
Show us some if you will. I'd like to see at least one with completely stock 853's or 241's, but more would be even better.
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Originally Posted by R6cowboy
Show us some if you will. I'd like to see at least one with completely stock 853's or 241's, but more would be even better.
Google it. I'm on my phone right now.
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Originally Posted by R6cowboy

Show us some if you will. I'd like to see at least one with completely stock 853's or 241's, but more would be even better.
Ls1s have made over 500rwhp with the right parts and a good tuner before...
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Originally Posted by big hammer
Google it. I'm on my phone right now.
I have searched before and have never seen such a powerful cam only LS1 car. 450-470whp from stock shortblock and stock 67cc chamber cylinder head that flows approximately 230cfm at .600 lift which has 2.00"/1.55" valves would be extremely difficult. Would be cool to see if it's been done though.
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Originally Posted by "MAC"
Ls1s have made over 500rwhp with the right parts and a good tuner before...
That's true, but not with completely stock heads and shortblock like hammer and I are talking about.


Sorry Mac, I really like LS series stuff but I don't exaggerate and claim stuff I've never seen before.

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Originally Posted by R6cowboy

Not with completely stock heads and shortblock.
Lol why do you think i said with the right parts? Im pretty sure hammer means the same with 450hp but again hammer is kinda crazy
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Originally Posted by "MAC"
Lol why do you think i said with the right parts? Im pretty sure hammer means the same with 450hp but again hammer is kinda crazy
Hey I edited my above post. hammer and I are talking about "cam only" LS1's, not modified heads and shortblock LS1's.
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Originally Posted by R6cowboy

That's true, but not with completely stock heads and shortblock like hammer and I are talking about.

Sorry Mac, I really like LS series stuff but I don't exaggerate and claim stuff I've never seen before.
Oh i agree no doubt but idk if hammer is being serious about the claim with 450whp with stock heads i can see that with ported stock heads and a after market cam but it would be 450BHP and not 450RWHP
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Im falling behind on your posts! Lol
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Idk even know if a ls6 would make 450rwhp with just a cam. If so ive never seen or heard of it
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