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Bolt-on A6 Coyote vs Stock A6 C7

Old 05-06-2014, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Riddle0288
after googling ls3 vs 5.0! Just kinda funny. I see ls1 t\a's an camaros with 180k+ or more still running the new 5.0s an doing pretty dam good agent's them. The ls1 has proven its self over an over to b cheap an super reliabile.. wont except any less from a ls3.. Put 150k to 200k on ur 5.0, 4 cams, 2 timing chains, an 32 valves an all thoes dam moving parts on thoes heads an see what lets lose.. more parts, more price to replace an repair..
The 4.6 in general was one of the most widely used and reliable engines in the world, I see no reason the 5.0 will be any different.
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
The 4.6 in general was one of the most widely used and reliable engines in the world, I see no reason the 5.0 will be any different.
Number 8 piston?
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Originally Posted by Iliac
If my dad was a King I wouldn't have to listen to one sided hill billies talk about has-been cars. But here we are.

Run what you brung dude.



Ohhh so the HP/TQ numbers that Chevy post are real and not marketing.... but the Ford numbers are just made-up bullshit marketing? Oh I see bro. Its all made up, were all clueless and you are in on the truth. Please expose us.

Even if we assume what you are saying is correct. The margin is very little and the coyote has 1.2L less displacement per cylinder.

You remember when chevy nutswingers were losing their minds and refused to acknowledge that the 5.0 would make these power numbers? And then when they came true it was all about the 5.0 being maxed out? Nope and nope. Too bad.

If HP numbers are truely marketing, especially for Ford....then why did the 03 Cobra post up 390HP/390TQ as engine production numbers? If those numbers were true then "bolt-on" LS2 Camaros would have competed if not wiped the floor clean with that car. But it didnt happen.

Do you happen to have link(s) that support your claims of the following facts: Chevrolet Camaros have: A) A larger aftermarket B) Cheaper parts C)Responds better pound for pound better than the 5.0 Coyote?

Because I have plenty of links that say that in the very worst situation Mustang still competes neck and neck. And in more realistic conditions are better. I know with absolute certainty that the Ford Mustang has statistically the largest production aftermarket of any car period right now.
I'm sorry come again lmfao? So if it has 1.2L per cylinder less displacement than the Chevy counterpart that would put the mustang at a minimum of 9.6L..... Da fuq?
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
The 4.6 in general was one of the most widely used and reliable engines in the world, I see no reason the 5.0 will be any different.
I don't think the 4.6 even come remotely close to the numbers of sbc's out there? Maybe you were just referencing ford's longest selling engine?
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Originally Posted by Iliac
the coyote has 1.2L less displacement per cylinder
do you even math bro?
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Nice random Youtube find, Marc

Hammer in denial as always, vettes being compared to Mustangs as always.

There seems to be some hope of a new Camaro that is not an embarrassment in the near future. Sweeeeet! It needs to redeem itself for sure.

The new LT1s run well!
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Originally Posted by OneSlowV
I could see one pulling but not by leaps and bounds from a roll lol
Only with ls1tech logic could I see that. Otherwise, no.
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Originally Posted by snake95
Nice random Youtube find, Marc

Hammer in denial as always, vettes being compared to Mustangs as always.

There seems to be some hope of a new Camaro that is not an embarrassment in the near future. Sweeeeet! It needs to redeem itself for sure.

The new LT1s run well!
It was on Speed Society, so I saw it on Facebook.

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Originally Posted by snake95
Nice random Youtube find, Marc

Hammer in denial as always, vettes being compared to Mustangs as always.

There seems to be some hope of a new Camaro that is not an embarrassment in the near future. Sweeeeet! It needs to redeem itself for sure.

The new LT1s run well!
This is their ace in the hole. Mustang ***** on Camaro. But ummm.........................Corvette. Two seat fiberglass non-pony car that costs nearly double a GT.
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Originally Posted by 8ty8 LS1
do you even math bro?
I beat you to it
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Originally Posted by snake95
Nice random Youtube find, Marc

Hammer in denial as always, vettes being compared to Mustangs as always.

There seems to be some hope of a new Camaro that is not an embarrassment in the near future. Sweeeeet! It needs to redeem itself for sure.

The new LT1s run well!
Originally Posted by 2003Cobro
This is their ace in the hole. Mustang ***** on Camaro. But ummm.........................Corvette. Two seat fiberglass non-pony car that costs nearly double a GT.
Where do you two butt buddies come up with the Mustang is so much better than the camaro? I realize you guys are kinda of gung ho because you finally have a n/a car that can even compete......but come on.
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Originally Posted by Cwarta
I'm sorry come again lmfao? So if it has 1.2L per cylinder less displacement than the Chevy counterpart that would put the mustang at a minimum of 9.6L..... Da fuq?
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I beat you to it
Actually your math was wrong. He said 1.2L less per cyl. That would be a net of -3.4L engine. So it would then run like a n/a 4.6
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Actually your math was wrong. He said 1.2L less per cyl. That would be a net of -3.4L engine. So it would then run like a n/a 4.6
LOL... that was actually pretty good.... and not far from truth.
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
The 4.6 in general was one of the most widely used and reliable engines in the world, I see no reason the 5.0 will be any different.
Ha i could say the same as a 305 chevy but dont mean they are worth a dam.lol
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crown vic police cars and taxis routinely hit 200-300k on them.
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okay cop cars get round the clock maintenance whenever they need it and along with taxi there 100 percent stock an not driven like a sports car.. havent sean to much 200k gt mustangs runing with the newer 5.0s or c6 vetts lol
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Originally Posted by Riddle0288
okay cop cars get round the clock maintenance whenever they need it and along with taxi there 100 percent stock an not driven like a sports car.. havent sean to much 200k gt mustangs runing with the newer 5.0s or c6 vetts lol
Have you ever riden in a taxi in a major city? They're driven like it's a non-stop road coarse.
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Originally Posted by Puck
Number 8 piston?
IIRC, that was a tuning issue where tuners let the car run too lean.
Originally Posted by Cwarta
I don't think the 4.6 even come remotely close to the numbers of sbc's out there? Maybe you were just referencing ford's longest selling engine?
Um...have you ever seen a cop car, taxi, or limo? There are a few million of those that would disagree with you. Though I'm sure there are at least as many SBCs out there, hence why I said "one of."
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Have you ever riden in a taxi in a major city? They're driven like it's a non-stop road coarse.
Exactly
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Haha!
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Dude that picture is 7 years old

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