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Old 07-15-2014, 10:35 AM
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OH... and now the "REAL" HAMMER... having his own time.
Old 07-15-2014, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by SCalla1384
Here's my dyno, off road x stock manifolds to kooks 1-3/4 LTs off road X

So you argue with me about l/ts not picking up much yet your car picked up a ton lolz makes no sense.
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Originally Posted by automach1
So you argue with me about l/ts not picking up much yet your car picked up a ton lolz makes no sense.
No, what I argued about was people saying they gain 15-20whp from headers alone. Which isn't the case
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Originally Posted by SCalla1384
No, what I argued about was people saying they gain 15-20whp from headers alone. Which isn't the case
You are not gonna see much of a gain if you already had cat delete pipes.
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Originally Posted by SCalla1384
No, what I argued about was people saying they gain 15-20whp from headers alone. Which isn't the case
For a lot of that pull you did gain ~15 whp
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Originally Posted by OneSlowV
You are not gonna see much of a gain if you already had cat delete pipes.
Based off that graph he posted it gained a lot.

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Originally Posted by OneSlowV
You are not gonna see much of a gain if you already had cat delete pipes.
Exactly. That's what's I've been saying to autotwat.

Autotwat, yes but we all know when you said 15-20whp you were talking about peak , peak gains proven over and over are not high. Its in the mid and upper rpm where you see the best gains like I said
Old 07-16-2014, 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by SCalla1384
Exactly. That's what's I've been saying to autotwat.

Autotwat, yes but we all know when you said 15-20whp you were talking about peak , peak gains proven over and over are not high. Its in the mid and upper rpm where you see the best gains like I said

Name calling because you proved your self wrong. Now sit down and learn.

Originally Posted by SCalla1384

P1 is a baby blower. Even though he already has longtubes on it, they don't do much for power on the 4v's anyways.
Originally Posted by automach1
I beg to differ as long tubes did plenty for my 4v
Originally Posted by SCalla1384
It's been proven over and over longtubes on 2v/4v's don't pick up much rwhp or track gains. Argue it all you want, but like I said it's been proven plenty of times.
Originally Posted by SCalla1384
The best gains come from an off road X. Longtubes and off road mid pipe is not worth 15rwhp over stock manifolds/off road X. Maybe on special occasions... But the norm is 5-10rwhp. Same as it is on the coyotes
Originally Posted by automach1
You can argue it all you want but I have proven it otherwise myself.

How can you look at this graph and say I would pick up more from a off road x-pipe

Originally Posted by SCalla1384
And lol, that's far from a bolt on or moderate boost Mach 1. I said except on special occasions... Meaning big boost setups.
Originally Posted by automach1
Both of those cars were 3350+ race weights. So ~16lbs is big boost that's news to me. Special occasions like every n/a and fi 4v
Never once did I give a specific peak hp number that a 4v would gain from l/ts. I just said the car will pick up a lot and posted my graph for proof. You said it was because of big boost. Then you prove yourself wrong by posting your own graph

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I guess you are either blind or in denial to say that your car did not pick up a lot from l/ts and that the gains would not show on the track as well.

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I didn't contradict myself once. I said longtubes don't pick up much over an off road x. Yeah if you go with a 600-700whp car obviously the gains will be higher. Starting to think your slightly retarded. And no I'm not name calling
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Originally Posted by SCalla1384
I didn't contradict myself once. I said longtubes don't pick up much over an off road x. Yeah if you go with a 600-700whp car obviously the gains will be higher. Starting to think your slightly retarded. And no I'm not name calling
Back pedal commence, hiho has taught you well


PS: Way to delete your other bs reply saying you were talking about the 4.6 2v/4v only when you clearly never specifically stated that.
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I think my car picked up a decent amount... A lot? No. People saying 15-25whp peak is a far cry from what gains are in real life. Like I said 20 times now, yes going from stock mid pipe and manifolds to headers off road x is probably worth 20 or so whp. But a majority of those gains are from the off road mid pipe.

And your twisting what your saying , you said 15rwhp when someone says that it tends to mean peak hp, otherwise people say "pick up 15whp throughout the powerband"
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What you think I deleted didn't say that at all. I realized I was comparing 2v and 4v motors to my car, but they all pick up about the same with headers . So I didn't bother posting it because it had nothing to do with it. Me back peddling lol! Pot calling the kettle black? Not gonna bother arguing with you. Your slow
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Originally Posted by SCalla1384
I think my car picked up a decent amount... A lot? No. People saying 15-25whp peak is a far cry from what gains are in real life. Like I said 20 times now, yes going from stock mid pipe and manifolds to headers off road x is probably worth 20 or so whp. But a majority of those gains are from the off road mid pipe.

And your twisting what your saying , you said 15rwhp when someone says that it tends to mean peak hp, otherwise people say "pick up 15whp throughout the powerband"
Originally Posted by SCalla1384
What you think I deleted didn't say that at all. I realized I was comparing 2v and 4v motors to my car, but they all pick up about the same with headers . So I didn't bother posting it because it had nothing to do with it. Me back peddling lol! Pot calling the kettle black? Not gonna bother arguing with you. Your slow
Yea mid pipes pick up the majority I think you meant, You're slow. Yet by the looks of it I am smarter and my car is faster. Just saying
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automach1 is getting owned
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Originally Posted by MysticA4Z28
automach1 is getting owned
When people read this they will think the complete opposite of what you say do to the fact you can't be taken seriously.
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^butthurt alert
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Originally Posted by MysticA4Z28
^butthurt alert
Poor mystic

Not a leg to stand on
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Originally Posted by Lawhead
Poor mystic Not a leg to stand on
This new look just isn't working out for him...

I'm still dying @ "I texted the old Mystic, and HE said that..."

Like we're that damn stupid
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Originally Posted by Lawhead
Poor mystic

Not a leg to stand on
Or a car to drive...
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Originally Posted by automach1
Based off that graph he posted it gained a lot.
Yeah was on the phone earlier couldn't see that graph right. He did pick up nicely though. Hope my car with kooks will pick up about the same through the mid and upper rpms


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