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Old 10-05-2014, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by 2003Cobro
yeah that extra 120 rwhp will never make up for all that weight.
Sometimes it's the quality of the power.
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Excuse him....he's a furd guy and they are used to making less power per lb of boost.
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If your car dynoed 560/500 with all the other mods listed in your sig then it looks like you just need more seat time. With that kind of power you should be trapping much higher than that...even if it's 90 degrees out.



Stick to what you are good at...because you obviously know nothing about boosted cars. There are Corvettes and Fbodies in the mid 10's running 8 psi.

You are right about the gearing though...he needs to get a 3.42 or 3.73 depending on tire height.
I know enough to know I would not run a centri w/o a bov.

Btw.....this one is probably not running mid 10's.....or it may have did what 2003cobro said initially. But thanks for backing me up.
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Telling him that he doesn't know **** about boost does no good. We've been telling him that for a long time, most people would start researching the subject to learn more about it, or just quit talking about it...not him.
I know enough to know you guys don't run on 8lb. I know enough that a larger engine that flows more air requires a larger blower.....looks like I may know more than you.
Old 10-05-2014, 11:57 AM
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Shawn welcome to LS1 tech. Hiho is the SR&KS derp so don't pay him much attention unless you are bored and looking for a laugh.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
As I have said many times.......there is a vast amount of info out there. Use it. Mostly anyone's intention when it comes to modding a car is to make it accelerate better. "Proper" is not about drag racing......it's about getting the car to accelerate as it well as it can. Drag racing is much more about the tire than it is anything else.
What do you think drag racing is all about? You said it perfect, making a car to accelerate as well (quickly) as it can. Thats why I said drag racing. What I meant before was things like reliability and/or comfort take priority over acceleration to some people when modding. Not everyone is the same. I agree that acceleration takes numeral uno to most people though.
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Originally Posted by evangto87
5pointslow... what are the details of your car? I know its a tvs e85 car. Whats it make for power? Other bolt ons? Clutch? gear? etc? Good running car!
Roush TVS with 82mm pulley (8.5 psi)
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In the video i was on my darkstars with MT ET street radial pros.

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Shawn welcome to LS1 tech. Hiho is the SR&KS derp so don't pay him much attention unless you are bored and looking for a laugh.
lol thanks.
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what it make for power?
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669/581 on the old E tune. Not sure on the new updated E tune. *** dyno says it feels faster so maybe a little more power now lol, still traps 133/134 in crappier air than when it ran 134 on the old tune in good air.
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You car runs good 5point. These guys can't take a tongue in cheek comment of me agreeing with 2003cobro. Although I do think the 4gen should've made a better race of it.......It's obvious why it did not.

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Shawn welcome to LS1 tech. Hiho is the SR&KS derp so don't pay him much attention unless you are bored and looking for a laugh.
That would be you dipshit.
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What do you think drag racing is all about? You said it perfect, making a car to accelerate as well (quickly) as it can. Thats why I said drag racing. What I meant before was things like reliability and/or comfort take priority over acceleration to some people when modding. Not everyone is the same. I agree that acceleration takes numeral uno to most people though.
Comfort and reliability is almost always primary in a street worthy hotrod. If they are truly primary you should leave the car completely alone. Both my camaro and my mustang are about as nice a hotrod as you're gonna ride in. Although both have their issues, I could drive either anywhere comfortably.

Just as a example....I spent sunday replacing a rod end with a bushing on my camaro just to make it nicer to ride in. Not that it was terrible before but I knew it could be better. Next will be a little different exhaust on it....just to quiet it down. It was quiet enough but the real estate the fab 9 took up made me have to change the exhaust.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
If you're modding a car to accelerate then you can look at his sig and see 3 mistakes.

1. Hauling a blower around for only 8psi of boost. Don't even bother unless you're gonna run 10lb at a minimum.

2. Monter clutch......I know alot of people like them. But they are heavy. If you gonna run with cars that have a lighter clutch than you from the factory you better get one to.

3. 4.10's....to much gear for that power at stock tire height. Especially for roll racing.

1. not a finished build bought the kit with the 8psi pulley, left it on there going to 12 likely sometime this winter

2. not worried about a couple extra pounds seeing as how this isn't and never will be a track car searching for evey last .0001 of a second

3. I completely agree hence the 28' tire on the car and a set of 3.42's awaiting install in my guest room
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Excuse him....he's a furd guy and they are used to making less power per lb of boost.
669/581 5.0 > 560/500 ls1 both at 8psi.

Carry on...
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Originally Posted by Blown383LS1
669/581 5.0 > 560/500 ls1 both at 8psi.

Carry on...


See, like I said; most people would research a subject or just quit talking about it...not Hiopocrisy. He doesn't understand the word "quit", even when his mouth has made him look dumb as hell.
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Where did I ever say a ls1 should make as much as a 5.bro?????????????????? I have always said a ls6 is more comparable. But like I said this is about acceleration.....not power. And that ls1 should have accelerated better.........And I was ****** right. I offered hard info to why. Notice how all heater offers is buillshit.
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An ls6 with the same setup would not make up for the 109 hp difference.
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Originally Posted by Blown383LS1
An ls6 with the same setup would not make up for the 109 hp difference.
Even with an LS6, 5.0>LS6 when it comes to power per pound of boost, at least in stock longblock form anyways. Some people just can't fathom that (not aimed specifically towards Hio btw). With that said, I'd still prefer an LS6 for my own personal use because I'm simply more of an LS fan than Ford modular/coyote.
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Originally Posted by Blown383LS1
An ls6 with the same setup would not make up for the 109 hp difference.
Sure it would....It could make a little more than that. A ls6 makes 60 more hp before the boost ever starts. It's also has 1000 more usable rpm. It would easily make 100 more hp than a ls1.
Originally Posted by R6cowboy
Even with an LS6, 5.0>LS6 when it comes to power per pound of boost, at least in stock longblock form anyways. Some people just can't fathom that (not aimed specifically towards Hio btw). With that said, I'd still prefer an LS6 for my own personal use because I'm simply more of an LS fan than Ford modular/coyote.
I see a 5.0 having a a very very marginal advantage over a ls6. N/a they are very close, record times for both engines are .05 apart with the ls6 trapping more. I see no reason they would not be close under boost. There has been plenty of ls6's go over 600whp with boost.
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Good runs. The camera car moved out and expected out come versus the gt500 and the camaro.

10.7@134 is bad for 660whp still banging gears.

And I see hiho still hasn't changed.
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
Good runs. The camera car moved out and expected out come versus the gt500 and the camaro.

10.7@134 is bad for 660whp still banging gears.

And I see hiho still hasn't changed.
Thanks man! car is a lot of fun. about to beef up the tranny here in the next couple weeks.



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