I agree.

 

That's not the statement assassinator made neither. Keep reaching.

 

Coyobro ftw! Good run

 

Lol....Didn't know there was a 302ci ls . You stuck on hp/l still?


Good runs

 

That thing gonna make a whole pile of guys rethink what tgey did when you're done. From the looks of you i think you make more power than bolt in coyotes with your old numbers. Upper 440's is about all they get to on pump gas like you......and they can forget about that tq number.

 

I'd really like to race a full bolt on one when I get my tires situated. Idk how it would turn out since while I do make more tq everywhere up to 6k than the average one does most coyotes never see below 5500 during a race after the switch out of 1st. But if I can get traction from a dig I would think the extra torque would put me out in front

 

Lol pulling out the cubic inch stipulations

Gearing would need to be pretty close to even in 1st for 40tq to be the deciding factor there

 

Agreed. I don't think the torque advantage is as important as people think unless you are on a road course coming out of a turn a gear high. People usually roll race where they are in the power immediately. 5.0s make plenty of torque to not make that an issue with their gearing, and they spin really high so they may actually have just as much of a usable RPM range after they are spun up.

Bolt on LS3 in an F-body is probably a pretty damn stout machine though. I would imagine it is a whole different game than when they are in fifth gens.

 

Absolutely.... I would imagine it would be very similar to how my car is. Coyote in this light car I assume would be very similar to a ls3 in an f-body.

 

No doubt. I'm sure your car rolls the hell out as well, and I have always loved the 96-98 Cobra. Putting the Coyote in that car makes perfect sense.

 

Ya i can see that. An auto coyote is geared stupid low in 1st so theres that. I run 3.90s so my first gear is about the same as most m6 coyotes would be. I think 40-50tq at the wheels with both cars being equally geard would be a decent advantage if it hooks from a dig. Bakery race it wont matter since both cars are in their best rpm bands.
If you were closer i'd like to test that out, my car is 3280-3300 in daily trim. Close to a full bolt on ls3... Race trim I lose another 50 with losing the sub, amp and spare.

 

Is there another way to compare efficiency of design? This argument is ignorant, but the point is, the LS advantage is it's displacement.

 

That and how physically small the engine is. The coyote no doubt makes more power per cube due to rpm and 4 valve heads, but the LS motors aren't inefficient in their design. Just in that specific parameter in comparison to the coyote. Both can lay down a ton of power.

 

too bad you are jealous.

MOST.

every 4.8.

two million 5.3.

tens of thousands of ls1.

tens of thousands of ls2.

same or more than every ls3.

30rwhp less than a max effort ls7.

yeah 450rwhp is very little really. and your vette is a lead weight compared to a sn95 with any weight reduction.

lets face it, your vette has ONE advantage. weight. hard to beat a 2900 lb non stripper sn95.


not with your vette. it weighs a ton in comparison.


so yes I stand by the MOST comment.

 

An NA 5.0 will make same or more than a NA LS3 and only 30whp less than a max effort LS7?.... Dementia must be hittin you harder than a mug right now with those statements.

 

When did I get a vette? I'd sure as hell like to know because I drive my camaro every day. But getting back to the motor your delusional if you think an ls3 isnt more than a match for a coyote. Lol but then again you just said a 480whp is a max effort ls7 so.....even with bolt ons thats not the case

Not every bolt on coyote walks around with 450whp, it takes a CJ and full bolt ons to do it. Hell to get anything over 450 you really need e85. So I really dont see how your saying it could be more than an ls3.

Every post you make on here is so angry and biased for no reason. How far did an ls have to shove a pushrod up your *** for you to always be so sensitive about one compared to a coyote?

 

We are in complete agreement. And the physical dimensions get blown WAY out of proportion. They are extremely close. Now if Ford would stop being pussies and give the ****** some adequate bore spacing...

 

I hereby challenge OverByte with Redfire.

 

Yeah I hear ya. They really aren't that big. Most vehicles are designed to fit the engine anyways and it only really matters if you are swapping into a miata or something.
I have no preference between the coyote or LS and if anything happened to my camaro, I'd probably pick up a 11-14 5.0 to be honest.

 

The difference in hp/L isn't even that much anyway. 475 hp (crank) was done on an SBE 4.8 with ported early style truck heads, shelf cam and intake. 500+ would be easily achieveable nowadays. Just most people don't bother with them because LS aren't cube limited.

There is no factory high performance 4.8-5.0 LS to compare anyway.