305 vs 302
05-18-2016, 05:52 PM
#61
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The G92 cars were no joke, just took GM too damned long to come out with them. Stock for stock, at their best, the 305 made 230/300, and the 5.0L made 240/285. Much closer than ford guys would like to admit, but I wouldn't call the 305 more powerful.
Mods wise, the 305 is kinda stuck where the 4.6L 2V is, you can make power, but why bother when there are better engines to start with?
Mods wise, the 305 is kinda stuck where the 4.6L 2V is, you can make power, but why bother when there are better engines to start with?
No they weren't. Its just all you had to work with back then. You're talking about engines out of production for almost 25yrs now.
05-18-2016, 09:28 PM
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Lol....so it stopped at 2000 when peopke got the swing of ls stuff. That sounds about right.
The feeling is mutual bud 
Meanwhile you had to build a motor to run with a bolt on ls6.....maybe.
He don't like being reminded of that. Or that his formy was faster with bolt ons.
Meanwhile you had to build a motor to run with a bolt on ls6.....maybe.
He don't like being reminded of that. Or that his formy was faster with bolt ons.
05-18-2016, 09:31 PM
#70
Lol....so it stopped at 2000 when peopke got the swing of ls stuff. That sounds about right.
The feeling is mutual bud
Meanwhile you had to build a motor to run with a bolt on ls6.....maybe.
He don't like being reminded of that. Or that his formy was faster with bolt ons.
The feeling is mutual bud
Meanwhile you had to build a motor to run with a bolt on ls6.....maybe.
He don't like being reminded of that. Or that his formy was faster with bolt ons.
The stock motor would have given you fits and shown you some tail lights
05-18-2016, 09:38 PM
#71
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Lol.....you woulda got drug. A bolt on 5br0 outran you from a roll. That's not happening on my end.
Btw.....how come me changing to another stock engine of the same ci is seemingly more of a change than a completely built engine with different turbo.
Seems like you may be as stupid as i think you are.
Btw.....how come me changing to another stock engine of the same ci is seemingly more of a change than a completely built engine with different turbo.
Seems like you may be as stupid as i think you are.
05-18-2016, 09:59 PM
#72
Lol.....you woulda got drug. A bolt on 5br0 outran you from a roll. That's not happening on my end.
Btw.....how come me changing to another stock engine of the same ci is seemingly more of a change than a completely built engine with different turbo.
Seems like you may be as stupid as i think you are.
Btw.....how come me changing to another stock engine of the same ci is seemingly more of a change than a completely built engine with different turbo.
Seems like you may be as stupid as i think you are.
My engine is only 2 CI different... And running the same turbo as it did on a stock motor. A built motor is there for strength, and really doens't help with power production... You could have built a better and stronger motor, but you didn't. Whose fault is that? Or is the LS6 a better and stronger motor over the LS1.. Hmm...
05-18-2016, 10:15 PM
#73
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Gotcha.....so you had to build it to keep it alive to run with these bolt in v8s you trash talk to.
That's all you had to say.
I never said you would a taken it. Quite the opposite. Mm never rode in my car in a tire either.
I'm happy with the ls6. It causes guys like you to build motors to kerp up.
That's all you had to say.
I never said you would a taken it. Quite the opposite. Mm never rode in my car in a tire either.
I'm happy with the ls6. It causes guys like you to build motors to kerp up.
05-18-2016, 10:16 PM
#74
Lol....so it stopped at 2000 when peopke got the swing of ls stuff. That sounds about right.
The feeling is mutual bud
Meanwhile you had to build a motor to run with a bolt on ls6.....maybe.
He don't like being reminded of that. Or that his formy was faster with bolt ons.
The feeling is mutual bud
Meanwhile you had to build a motor to run with a bolt on ls6.....maybe.
He don't like being reminded of that. Or that his formy was faster with bolt ons.
Should be. Bigger motor. You don't like being reminded that while you had Grotty Headers,smooth bellows and MTI LIDS as only mods,I had mags full of mods. This resulted in lots of *** kicking of c5 and fbombs by foxes! Winning!!!
Even Ballpien Hammer knows the Ford aftermarket made things very difficult for GM faithful. Oops
05-18-2016, 10:23 PM
#75
Gotcha.....so you had to build it to keep it alive to run with these bolt in v8s you trash talk to.
That's all you had to say.
I never said you would a taken it. Quite the opposite. Mm never rode in my car in a tire either.
I'm happy with the ls6. It causes guys like you to build motors to kerp up.
That's all you had to say.
I never said you would a taken it. Quite the opposite. Mm never rode in my car in a tire either.
I'm happy with the ls6. It causes guys like you to build motors to kerp up.
My situation was much like yours.. Broken motor, why not put something better in?You said we would have been a good run
05-19-2016, 12:38 AM
#77
Your logic bothers me. In one post you're splitting hairs saying that the 305 was gone when the 302 was making more power, even though it was only gone for two years and they're both the product of the same era.
Then in the next post you're acting like an LS6 swap is nothing at all. No matter the argument, you bend the rules to the advantage of your precious chevy motors. I've come to the conclusion that you are a woman, because you definitely debate like one.
05-19-2016, 04:18 AM
#79
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It was so gutless.... But even mods like a simple CAI added a few mph. The factory air box on the formulas was really bad.
05-19-2016, 07:56 AM
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Your logic bothers me. In one post you're splitting hairs saying that the 305 was gone when the 302 was making more power, even though it was only gone for two years and they're both the product of the same era.
Then in the next post you're acting like an LS6 swap is nothing at all. No matter the argument, you bend the rules to the advantage of your precious chevy motors. I've come to the conclusion that you are a woman, because you definitely debate like one.
Then in the next post you're acting like an LS6 swap is nothing at all. No matter the argument, you bend the rules to the advantage of your precious chevy motors. I've come to the conclusion that you are a woman, because you definitely debate like one.
It woulda been easy enough for gm to squeeze another 10hp out of the 305 with added development. But it wasn't in production to even compete. Now here is the kicker....the regular 30poo never out powered the 305. It took the cobra version. That would be no different than chevy doin a more high performance 305. They coulda used a l98 or or used vortec heads that would of only been 1 yr after the 30poo went out of production. After all the 305 made 220 hp in a truck application there
As far as my ls6 goes. .....it's not a swap. More of a replacement. It took no wiring....it took no mount changes...no accessory changes. Hell i drove it for a while on the ls1 tune. It went 12.0 or 12.1 on the ls1 tune and oe catback with out even a dr. So that's why it's really nothing at all.
Now my uncle and i put a ls1 in a 56 bel air......that's a "swap"
My 93 notch with a termi motor is a "swap".
My ls7 when it goes in my camaro or vette will be a "swap". Although a mild swap in the camaro.
A duramax in a mid 80's truck is a "swap"
There are swaps.....then there are replacements. Swaps = changes needed to make happen. Replacements require no changes.
You should be worried about someones logic that thinks any different.