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Old 06-14-2016 | 12:16 PM
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You know what I am getting at. Don't be a rod lol
Me?

I don't know what you're talking about.
Old 06-14-2016 | 12:58 PM
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What I wanna know is how Poppa can't feel a 15whp difference..?
Old 06-14-2016 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Flex fuel silverado picks up .3 on e85. Your info Likely off

Looks like it jarred cobro crew more.....lol
Comon Hio... bad comparison man... 2 totally different vehicles. Mine doesnt gain what you think on e85
Old 06-14-2016 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by CamOnlyJabroni
Must be because I have a inefficient old 2v LT1 but E85 was the last mod I have done to my car and I instantly felt a part throttle power difference and torque. Further changing the injector offsets in my car after converting it made just as big of a difference as initially switching it over. Felt about like the gain when I put the LS1 lid on and Chris1313 ram air. I would guess it picked up 10-15whp and at least that torque wise. Car would hardly ever spin the 275/60 Mickeys in second gear and now it will do it if it is 60 out or 85-90 degrees repeatedly. I would think the 5.0 wouldn't pick up as much being it's VE is already high having a 4 cam engine though. One big part about E85 is you can burn a higher volume of fuel and the vaporization temp is higher resulting in higher VE. Maybe it helped my stock castings draw in more air for the amount of lift I am running. Who knows. Quit sandbagging Bro's. If it wasn't worth doing people wouldn't do it. Also makes the car more consistent/less heat soak.
So you agree its about a 10-15hp gain then.... cool.
Old 06-14-2016 | 06:17 PM
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What I wanna know is how Poppa can't feel a 15whp difference..?
15whp is not a kick in the pants difference. I notice a small difference. I would venture to guess my car would be 1 to 1.5 tenths slower et on 93.
Old 06-14-2016 | 06:27 PM
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Such misleading rhetoric is the problem lol. People keep saying its a small gain.

Yes probably around 10-15 hp gain over an existing 93 tune.

But call it like it is...e85 tuned 5.0 compared to stock is a ~30rwhp gain. Simple as that. In no way, shape or form is that a small difference.

Just look at what they run. Mid 12's at best stock. High 11's with e85 and a tire. Yeah...such a small difference.
Old 06-14-2016 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Poppacapp
Comon Hio... bad comparison man... 2 totally different vehicles. Mine doesnt gain what you think on e85
Silverados are so neutered from the factory they gain a lot just from a base tune on 91 or 93 over 87 anyway.
Old 06-14-2016 | 06:41 PM
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Such misleading rhetoric is the problem lol. People keep saying its a small gain.

Yes probably around 10-15 hp gain over an existing 93 tune.

But call it like it is...e85 tuned 5.0 compared to stock is a ~30rwhp gain. Simple as that. In no way, shape or form is that a small difference.

Just look at what they run. Mid 12's at best stock. High 11's with e85 and a tire. Yeah...such a small difference.
Manual cars just need some tires and the driver mod.
Old 06-15-2016 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Poppacapp
Comon Hio... bad comparison man... 2 totally different vehicles. Mine doesnt gain what you think on e85
Very good comparison actually. It was a e85 change only on stock tunes.
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So you agree its about a 10-15hp gain then.... cool.
More under the curve. Peak numbers don't always tell the whole story.
Old 06-15-2016 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Very good comparison actually. It was a e85 change only on stock tunes.


More under the curve. Peak numbers don't always tell the whole story.
Well I might be testing that theory soon. Might put it on the same dyno on 93 sometime. Might be a few hp difference due to different days but will be able to see some stuffz
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The theory has been tested many times.
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I predict about 7-10rwhp gain.
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What ever it gains for power, it at least should be mentioned as a mod.

Do bros usually use the factory injectors for a e85 tune, since they are e85 compatible from the factory?
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Originally Posted by 408-99-f
What ever it gains for power, it at least should be mentioned as a mod.

Do bros usually use the factory injectors for a e85 tune, since they are e85 compatible from the factory?
The 2015+ 5.0s can use factory fuel system.. injectors etc... just need the tune to run flex fuel or a dedicated e85 tune.

11-14s need injector upgrade to run the new flex tunes
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
The theory has been tested many times.
Yeah but I want to see for myself man.. I might go to the dyno on 93 octane.. then run to the E85 location(about 30mins from the dyno) and top the car off, go back and dyno on E85 same day.. I have to do it like that to get the E% higher. With the left over 93 in the tank, it slightly dilutes the E85 down.

From my highly calibrated booty dyno, there is not a huge difference. Car feels pretty much VERY close to as fast on 93. And I have tried both fuels alot.
Old 06-16-2016 | 10:14 PM
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COYOTAHS both respond huge to mods and also don't respond at all. Really depends on the narrative
Old 06-16-2016 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Poppacapp
The 2015+ 5.0s can use factory fuel system.. injectors etc... just need the tune to run flex fuel or a dedicated e85 tune.

11-14s need injector upgrade to run the new flex tunes
Gotcha, you have any plans to go big with that thing? Didn't you mention turbos at one point?
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Originally Posted by 408-99-f
Gotcha, you have any plans to go big with that thing? Didn't you mention turbos at one point?
Yeah, I plan on a twin turbo kit. But never know.. I might jump into a C6 Z06 if the prices keep on as good as they are now.
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Originally Posted by big hammer
COYOTAHS both respond huge to mods and also don't respond at all. Really depends on the narrative
Its a natural phenomenah...phenomenah...



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