WisT02ws6

ZL1 is bone stock and the V has headers.

odthetruth

iTrader: (4)

Looks about right. Honorable death in the V1.

408-99-f

Agreed,

zl1 has the same motor as a v2 in a lighter car. I think they get underrated, LSA is a great motor

HCI2000SS

iTrader: (2)

No shame there

Mappinsj

I want the new ZL1 for 62k!!!!

willys srt8

Me too

Sticks n Stones

WTF you guys think it looks right that a 400hp heavier car hangs right with a lighter car with 560hp?!?! That ZL1 should have thrown cars up on the 1st gen V. Was the ZL1 driver a noob or just a boob?

V8EATR

The ZL1 had an extra passenger and a V1 is not heavier than a ZL1. I think in fact the ZL1 is probably a couple hundred pounds heavier.

willys srt8

lol worse, 580hp. From what I hear on here, ZL1s are slow. Can't hang with 5bros. Run high 12s in the1/4...

CTS-V 3850lbs
ZL1 4129lbs

Sticks n Stones

first gen CTS-V's run low/mid 13's @ 108mph stock. Headers (and tune I assume) could maybe knock that down to high 12's @ 110mph. ZL1's run low 12's @ 116mph. And, unlike apparently most in here, I've ran numerous versions of both these cars in my GTO and the results agree with the mag times.

The ZL1 should have waxed it, period. Gotta love street racing where skill (or lack of it) can notably affect and even decide a race instead of guys arguing magazine numbers at a Starbucks.

marc97taws6

iTrader: (6)

Sometimes low 13s too

STAGEUP

ZL1 looks like it needs a real driver. Good death

odthetruth

iTrader: (4)

V1s are **** in 1/4 mile times because the rear end hops a lot and is weak. From a roll, I think they are stronger than their quarter miles would suggest. They are also noticeably lighter than the ZL1... even with them being 4 doors. 5th gens are heavy. Its a well known fact here on tech. I'd like to see what they both back half on average.

If this didn't look like a 6mph difference, idk what to say to you. It definitely looked like a 6mph difference. V1 just held him off well but it wasn't exactly close.

True.

CamOnlyJabroni

I have raced both with the same mods as both in this thread. V1 had long tubes and straight pipes and the 14' ZL1 was stock and a six speed. When the Scat pack just had a CAI I ran the V from 35-120 giving him the nod and put 3 1/2 on him. Ran a stock ZL1 after I deleted the cats on a even start I barely edged him out down low. Within a car length.

Sticks n Stones

What is funny is that a 2nd gen CTS-V can stomp a ZL1 with less claimed power and more claimed weight at least from a roll.

marc97taws6

iTrader: (6)

Truth. I've seen a V2 sedan here with a CAI and tune go 12.2@119 and I've seen a stock zl1 go as slow as low 13's @ 112-114

willys srt8

I can go slower than that in my ZL1 easy.

Stock v stock, they post very similar times.

marc97taws6

iTrader: (6)

I just haven't seen it in person. Idk if it is the average Camaro owner is an inferior driver to a V2 owner or what. V2s just seem to perform better here at the 1/4 than the rare 5G that actually races

willys srt8

I didn't know about the race mode until I read the owner's manual. If it's not in PTM 4/5, the power is restricted.

willys srt8

If all the drivers do is start the car, they are automatically in PTM 2.

This is what the driver will see depending on which screen they are on however, it doesn't tell you what mode you are in anywhere unless you are physically changing the modes. Only after you have made a mode change will it tell you and only in one screen. Mode two is displayed as the initial mode after starting and I'm looking at the mode change display. The mode change location is not located with the display settings. The driver has to go to the traction control buttons on the console and search the modes on screen using the T/C buttons.

I accidentally loaded the pictures in the reverse order...