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Old 08-24-2016 | 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Jay z28
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Dealers don't mark up their prices because a car is super fast. They mark up prices on cars they believe will sell regardless of price. Looking at dealer mark ups to judge the possible performance of a car is dumb.
Troof. Anybody who pays ADM is retarded too. Know a few car guys locally who have picked up gt350s at cost.
Old 08-24-2016 | 09:16 AM
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GT350 still performs good on track - passed a C7 Z51 easily.

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Dealer mark up is total bs. There's already profit built into selling it at MSRP and it's not like Ford changes their price based on market interest at the time. They're just artificially inflating a product because they're the only ones who can get them - you can't order one directly from Ford without going through dealerships.

Sure, you could always go to another dealer, but I called every Ford dealer in my state - everyone in the immediate area marked up the car $10k. Cheapest I heard was $8k ADM. Needless to say, I did not buy in state.

Thought it interesting that Ford is enforcing dealers to not sell the new Ford GT with any mark up. They're threatening them saying they won't give them any business if they mark up their halo car.
Old 08-24-2016 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by slowZZZ
GT350 still performs good on track - passed a C7 Z51 easily.

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Dealer mark up is total bs. There's already profit built into selling it at MSRP and it's not like Ford changes their price based on market interest at the time. They're just artificially inflating a product because they're the only ones who can get them - you can't order one directly from Ford without going through dealerships.

Sure, you could always go to another dealer, but I called every Ford dealer in my state - everyone in the immediate area marked up the car $10k. Cheapest I heard was $8k ADM. Needless to say, I did not buy in state.

Thought it interesting that Ford is enforcing dealers to not sell the new Ford GT with any mark up. They're threatening them saying they won't give them any business if they mark up their halo car.
Paying ADM is stoopid.

I'm not convinced that many FGT will even hit a dealers.
Old 08-24-2016 | 09:29 AM
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Troof gt350 did well against c7 Z51

Any testing in comparison to Gs?
Old 08-24-2016 | 09:33 AM
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Paying ADM is stoopid.

I'm not convinced that many FGT will even hit a dealers.
You're probably right. My guess is they're going to be personally shipping them in enclosed trailers directly to the owner's house, from Ford. Doubt they're going to let the dealers "prep" them for delivery.
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Originally Posted by slowZZZ
GT350 still performs good on track - passed a C7 Z51 easily.

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Dealer mark up is total bs. There's already profit built into selling it at MSRP and it's not like Ford changes their price based on market interest at the time. They're just artificially inflating a product because they're the only ones who can get them - you can't order one directly from Ford without going through dealerships.

Sure, you could always go to another dealer, but I called every Ford dealer in my state - everyone in the immediate area marked up the car $10k. Cheapest I heard was $8k ADM. Needless to say, I did not buy in state.

Thought it interesting that Ford is enforcing dealers to not sell the new Ford GT with any mark up. They're threatening them saying they won't give them any business if they mark up their halo car.
You passed the driver.....not the car.
Old 08-24-2016 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by islander033
Paying ADM is stoopid.

I'm not convinced that many FGT will even hit a dealers.
Lmao...Ford GT is abbreviated as FGT...coincidence?
Old 08-24-2016 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
You passed the driver.....not the car.
My car still physically passed the car too. Just shows the cars are closer than people want to think. It's not like the GT350 is miles behind or takes that much better of a driver to go faster than the C7.
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At willow springs with equal drivers the gt350 is 1.3 sec behind with equal drivers.


You're a amateur. .....the guy in the vette was likely a amateur. Could even be a vast difference in experience.

Hence.....you passed the driver.
Old 08-24-2016 | 11:51 AM
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Ford doesn't make a car that beats the vette. Base model beats the 5.0, gt350, The z06 beats both gt350r and gt500 and the c7r beats the ford gt.
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Fords attempts in making a car that handles has come leaps and bounds. But GM still beats them in suspension development
Old 08-24-2016 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
At willow springs with equal drivers the gt350 is 1.3 sec behind with equal drivers.


You're a amateur. .....the guy in the vette was likely a amateur. Could even be a vast difference in experience.

Hence.....you passed the driver.
It was an open track day, in the same group. There shouldn't have been that big of gap in experience. It would be one thing passing him in my s2k, but that's not what happened. Cars are closer than anyone cares to admit.

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Ford doesn't make a car that beats the vette. Base model beats the 5.0, gt350, The z06 beats both gt350r and gt500 and the c7r beats the ford gt.
Yeah, we all know Ford doesn't make a direct competitor for the Corvette, but the $63k GT350R still beats a $63k C7. But then Chevy doesn't make a direct competitor for the new Ford GT either. Ford GT actually beat the C7R in Le Mans.
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Originally Posted by slowZZZ
It was an open track day, in the same group. There shouldn't have been that big of gap in experience. It would be one thing passing him in my s2k, but that's not what happened. Cars are closer than anyone cares to admit.



Yeah, we all know Ford doesn't make a direct competitor for the Corvette, but the $63k GT350R still beats a $63k C7. But then Chevy doesn't make a direct competitor for the new Ford GT either. Ford GT actually beat the C7R in Le Mans.

Correct me if im wrong the C7r has won more races? According to my google search thats a yes.
Old 08-24-2016 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
You passed the driver.....not the car.
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At willow springs with equal drivers the gt350 is 1.3 sec behind with equal drivers.


You're a amateur. .....the guy in the vette was likely a amateur. Could even be a vast difference in experience.

Hence.....you passed the driver.
Yeah! The guy was running down the track. He wasn't even in his car!
Old 08-24-2016 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Kenny E Ross
Correct me if im wrong the C7r has won more races? According to my google search thats a yes.
I believe it does yes. And c7r smoked it again at road America
Old 08-24-2016 | 12:20 PM
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350r is also a two seater like the vette.
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Originally Posted by Jay z28
Yeah! The guy was running down the track. He wasn't even in his car!
Obvious butthurt is obvious.
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Originally Posted by big hammer
350r is also a two seater like the vette.
I wonder what would happen in a race between a 10 year old Z06 and this brand new 350r...
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Originally Posted by slowZZZ
It was an open track day, in the same group. There shouldn't have been that big of gap in experience. It would be one thing passing him in my s2k, but that's not what happened. Cars are closer than anyone cares to admit.



Yeah, we all know Ford doesn't make a direct competitor for the Corvette, but the $63k GT350R still beats a $63k C7. But then Chevy doesn't make a direct competitor for the new Ford GT either. Ford GT actually beat the C7R in Le Mans.
Experience and skill don't always go hand in hand. Like i said.....you beat the driver.

So the best mustang is significantly slower than the best vette.

Now not assuming your dumb because you have brought up tires before. Don't you think the base vette has less tire than the gt350r premier mustang?
Originally Posted by Jay z28
Yeah! The guy was running down the track. He wasn't even in his car!
Same track same car I've seen as much as 6sec a lap differencein professional drivers. Granted not the elite drivers. But from our best.....drivers like Bill Auberlin and Joey Hand to drivers lets say not as good.
Old 08-24-2016 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by RedFuryZ28
Obvious butthurt is obvious.
I'm trying to achieve your level of butthurt, but I haven't managed to get beat by a 2valve yet so I still have some work to do.


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