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Old 09-18-2016, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by marc97taws6
6r80 is pretty close to the 8l90 cars in gearing. GM got it right with the 6g
Yeah aboot time. The M6 6 gen hearing is still that same as the 5th gen IIRC. But the powerband of the lt1 doesn't seem to care too much
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Originally Posted by BlkMach1
GM put a higher stall converter though right?

Looks like every gear is shorter on the 6G than the S550
Correct, the stock 8l90 stall is a bit more aggressive than the s550. That is partially why we have seen guys cutting 1.7s with stock stuff
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Sexgen is pretty good

Originally Posted by BlkMach1
Crazy gear = something closer to 5 or above
Yea.....so coyote gearing.
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Crazy gear is a relative term now. Really 3.73's in a COYOTAH with an mt82 is crazy steep already. The autos even more so
Yup
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Sexgen is pretty good


Yea.....so coyote gearing.


Yup
We already saw how slow they run with something higher than 3.73s(Zyborg's race) I can imagine 4.88s or shorter.
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I have not driven a 3.55 a6 s550 but I imagine first is super short.
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Originally Posted by UltraZLS1
Barely lol.

Ran it once on 20 inch DR. 11.7 @ 123. 2.1 60. 2800 da. Milan Michigan. Test and tune night prep wasn't that great. Had to wait forever for that run and just went home.

Have never posted it cuz I wasn't proud of it. Needed traction and axles. Instead of buying axles and a drag pack I sold it when I heard of the 6g. That and it was 4 years time for something new. Roll raced the **** out of it though. I did very very well. I didn't even waste my gas on an LBO 2013 5.0. I beat his buddy's 600 and he didn't want none.

Not quite full sausage. 93 octane. Stock driveline and clutch. Unported manifold. Completely full weight.
Well a 123mph car for sure would pull a good bit on my old 117mph setup. Slip is nothing to be ashamed of... we all know we have bad days at the track and good days. Of SRK of course, some seem to think if you have a bad day at the track, then thats all your car is capable of.
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Originally Posted by marc97taws6
I have not driven a 3.55 a6 s550 but I imagine first is super short.
Fairly short, will be worth it when I go with DRs. With the wheel and tire setup I'm getting it will be closer to 3.73s.

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Old 09-18-2016, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver

It was bolt ons in stock power tuning. Get over it. If it hadn't been pulling timing on the shifts you woulda got walked all 4 times. That car is night and day different on the shift now. But we were being upfront and honest......you know ....not doin any emergency mods like you.


Hhhmmm really? I guess you'll have to go tell your furd brotherin that then.

Now....when your cams go to the oe map instead of not being there you might have a leg to stand on. Till then you don't. And i would take a no rocker run vs that to.
Stock power tuning. Uh huh... car had a tune.He tweaked it some more. Just a note. Mine is faster too Since cat delete car was getting some knock up top and pulling timing. Tune has been "revised"

And just because those Furd fellows think they are bolt ons... doesnt make them bolt one. Simple fact is this.... if I had the same exhaust mods as Phils car(ie long tubes... none of your 2/3 exhaust crapology) I would have walked a gap stripe. 5th gens DO NOT keep up with 5.0s mod for mod.

You guys needed to open the motor, do port work, change cam lift etc etc. Arguing semantics on mod for mod seems pointless... both cars had mods... different mods.... and NOT similar mods. My car FBO and Phil's FBO would be a race in the 5.0's favor for sure.

Hell the races were close enough that somthing as simple as no passengers, or my full drag pack would have made the difference. Either way, I am not going to hash it out until end times. We agree to disagree again.


We all know the only reason the races were close is because of my catchcan doe'
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Originally Posted by corysmach1
It's not the old days anymore. The rules in Coyote class is sealed motors. You guys have made it extremely apparent that you guys need to break that seal to compete (rockers)....I've also done some research because I've heard you and your crew say multiple times a Yote hasn't made 450 on pump gas I found 10+ in less than 30 min. Now back to my arrogance....I bash my car more than anybody.....my setup actually sucks dick but I am trying to make it work. And I don't get mad if someone says they can beat me....I get excited.
Hell in the GM stock class, the LS cars are not even allowed to run stick shifts. LS motors seem to have major oiling issues and tend to grenade when the wheels come up. Hence autos only to prevent major motor issues at races.
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Originally Posted by CamOnlyJabroni
Damn Cman, Bro's trappin upper 120's with bolts and a little WR? I figured it would take close to 500whp to get to 130. People pulling glass and going lexan or what? How much weight can you get out of a 11-14 premium if you still have all the seats and interior in?

-Dennis, did you google Canadian Bacon yet?
Hiocrew has been know to utilize Lexan on their cars.
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Originally Posted by big hammer
It appears as though he's posted up legitimate sources that stated rockers were\are bolt ons. The rest is all just pissy poo pants.

In the end you're arguing over like 8 hp anyway.
8hp my ***. They make a good 20rwhp difference.
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Originally Posted by Mappinsj
you all so mean, be nice or Hillary will be president and life will suck for everyone.
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Or he pulled a 1.2 at a rolling start drag race.
Mappy!

I heard there was this plastic grocery bag that tripped the lights
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Hio I will say there is no sense in us continuing to debate what ifs. Woulda shoulda coulda.. the races with Phil where fun as hell and was good meeting yall. Maybe when I get to FBO, and Phil does we can plan to meet at the track sometime for some runs.
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Originally Posted by Poppacapp
8hp my ***. They make a good 20rwhp difference.
Cool post up your dyno of your rockers and your e85!
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Originally Posted by big hammer
Cool post up your dyno of your rockers and your e85!
Why don't you? You seem to be the google master here.
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Originally Posted by Poppacapp
Why don't you? You seem to be the google master here.
Dug has one of rockers somewhere
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
I like coyote motors. The cars they come in is not so great tho
Yeah, going mid 8s in a SLB Turbo Coyote on stock trans & rear end are not impressive at all huh?
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Originally Posted by NateLS1Mustang
Yeah, going mid 8s in a SLB Turbo Coyote on stock trans & rear end are not impressive at all huh?
STOCK stock STOCK StOCk STOCK'

cam only 4.8 been 7's and SBE 5.3 been 4's in the 1/8
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Goddamn.....poppa puttin on another cryfest here and bitching about the old furd guys mods. There really is no end to his bitching.

I would take poppa having headers with stock cat back proper tune vs phil having proper tune and e85.

You woulda no doubt got drug. You getting a little knock retard up top vs him getting 6-8 degrees on every shift.

You had more mods poppa. Get over it. Ypu have dealt 0 knock out blows to any camaro so far like you claim.
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Originally Posted by NateLS1Mustang
Yeah, going mid 8s in a SLB Turbo Coyote on stock trans & rear end are not impressive at all huh?
The car itself is just not that great. Kinda cheap and uninspiring really.

You should buy one nate. If it's so easy even a dumbass like you should be able to do it.


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