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They are very similar modded. Saying they ain't is a poppalie. If anything You have more mods here....several more mods.
You
1- tune
2- e85
3- modded air box
4- catchcan (you said it helped keep you from pulling timing)
5- weight reduction
6- exhaust (2/3 of your exhaust you have modded)
7- suspension mods
8- lighter wheels/tires with drs
9- lowering drag springs
Phil
1- oe z28 cai
2- rockers/valve springs
3- 2/3 of his exhaust with stock cat back
4- hio ported intake (which may or may not have helped according to others results) likely minimal at best. Some port jobs have actually been known to make less power. This was my first ls3 intake i have ported. Who knows what it does. Be cool to do a back to back to see.
*phils tune had no timing/fuel mods....no tm mods either. Only moved rev limit and cats turned off.
Phils car was as near full weight as it can get with those mods.
Are the mods different. ...yup. wanting a mod for mod thing is silly and very naive. Wanting mod for mod would mean you showing up on stock wheels....stock suspension. ....no e85.....full weight.....no catch can....stock tune with no power tuning. How do you think you woulda faired then?
I don't care about your best buddies car. Clearly not a good example. Did you and him run?
A s550 or s197 is not unbeatable like you seem to believe....and not as good as car a 5gen is either.
Lol! Reading this made me laugh. Keep living in your dream world man. Remember.. just because YOU say it... doesn't make it so. Said before I won't debate this anymore. its a waste of time with you... so you keep your opinion and I'll keep mine and we will leave it at that.
Huh.....a tune is a mod. If poppa really wanted mod for mod here he coulda only changed his rev limit and emergency cat deletes. You either want mod for mod or you don't.
Lolz
Let just say there was some more.... "tuning" attempted when yall found out my cats were getting deleted.
5th gen would have gotten walked if I had headers, and intake work like the 5th gen. Face it Hio... 5.0 faster car with less mods.
Actually there is a lot of logic in that. You cant compare an actual tune (on e85) to boot and a raising of the limiter.... Its just not the same thing....
Might want to listen to Hio, might learn a thing or 9,456....
Cool man, keep making silly justifications for the GM vehicle because of your blinders.
So Phil has no WR but then you contradicted yourself and said he saved weight?
Headers and orx drop weight
Phil, the 5G owner, listed the NPP as a power mod. I'm just agreeing with him and GM.
I had no more weight reduction than Phil had. His headers orx saved weight(same as my simple catback). Engine covers off the car.. other stuff deleted from engine bay(mine was untouched). Not to mention the 50+lb weight difference between the passengers.
My racestars(heavy cheap assed wheels) and radials are actually heavier than my 18" oem wheel setup.
I think the 5gen interior is much better. Both poppacry car and phils were base model cars. 5gen far better. Radio/screen bigger easier to read on 5gen. Dash much better looking and not as busy with all the buttons on the 5gen. I havevto give the nod to the 5gen on better materials to.
Remember both are base cars here.
You bought a 2v. That says enough. You aren't aloud to call anything a turd.
So nothing eehh?
Dude... seriously? The gauge cluster on the 5th gen has to be the most hideous cluster out there. But thats just my opinion, and you have yours.
Nope. The coyote feminine tq band is what makes it perform as a smaller converter compared to the tq monster DI LT1. Nice try though
The stock stall speed of the 8l90 converter is higher than the 6r80 converter, but I wouldn't expect a Gm nut hugger to compare differences impartially.
Says the one who needs to take a holesaw to get any sort of impressive time out of a car. Damn man.
The 5gen is ugly as sin on the inside.
vs
Mustang > 5gen. /discussion.
Your **** is junk and you're a ******. Nice try on using older 5gen interior shot. This is 5gen 1le 1ss interior. So much cleaner looking than mustang interior.
Much nicer than any mustang I've been in.
Originally Posted by Poppacapp
Lol! Reading this made me laugh. Keep living in your dream world man. Remember.. just because YOU say it... doesn't make it so. Said before I won't debate this anymore. its a waste of time with you... so you keep your opinion and I'll keep mine and we will leave it at that.
Oh it is so......yes you are a waste. Proof of that was when you kept claiming all wins against the 6gen. Lolz.......screen shots of beginning and end fixed that ****
Originally Posted by Poppacapp
Let just say there was some more.... "tuning" attempted when yall found out my cats were getting deleted.
5th gen would have gotten walked if I had headers, and intake work like the 5th gen. Face it Hio... 5.0 faster car with less mods.
You see poppacry if you weren't so ******* one way you would realize that phil could have did e85 then to match your headers and a real tune to match your real tune.
I'd be game to say you wouldn't win any then with the hit. As a matter of fact you woulda needed headers just to keep it the same as it was with phil a tune. But then you woulda had full exhaust to phil not having full exhaust........so where's this mod for mod **** you keep crying about?
Ypu basically admit you need more mods
Originally Posted by Poppacapp
Dude... seriously? The gauge cluster on the 5th gen has to be the most hideous cluster out there. But thats just my opinion, and you have yours.
5gen inteior is nicer. Not as busy with all the cheap looking buttons a s550 has.
Originally Posted by CyberGrey Z28
Hio owning fbo banana.
Nope. The coyote feminine tq band is what makes it perform as a smaller converter compared to the tq monster DI LT1. Nice try though
Isn't it some **** when these guys cry about stock tq conveters.....
Oh it is so......yes you are a waste. Proof of that was when you kept claiming all wins against the 6gen. Lolz.......screen shots of beginning and end fixed that ****
You see poppacry if you weren't so ******* one way you would realize that phil could have did e85 then to match your headers and a real tune to match your real tune.
I'd be game to say you wouldn't win any then with the hit. As a matter of fact you woulda needed headers just to keep it the same as it was with phil a tune. But then you woulda had full exhaust to phil not having full exhaust........so where's this mod for mod **** you keep crying about?