Lawhead

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Lmfao at the C4 being any sort of "kept secret"

89BANDIT

^ Well it kind of is. Most people don't even think of the C4 for a build. Most are stock, or Stock'ish. But you really can't get a better platform for a build. And there damn good looking too. And yes, you can always do a solid axle if need be. For full disclosure. I do own a C4.

islander033

Fox is superior, most LS guys know this.

HioSSilver

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Yea crazy easy for sra swap. With out a doubt best kept secret. Can be super light to

I have 2 c4s at the moment. One i bought just because it was cheap and ran good. The other was just cheap, in parts but all there.

Perfect cars to eff with.

snake95

302 car won.

305 gets participation trophy since they're all Hillary clinton.

Mike Morris

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C4 is good kept secret for performance

marc97taws6

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Mio needs c4 lt4

408-99-f

I bet there is more 305 cars with the 305 still in them, than the fox with the 5.0 in it. Isn't it standard procedure now when you buy a fox to throw that motor away and put a sbc/LS in it lol?

Felix C

Folks use Ford 347 windsor-clevelands. Then there is a 331cid iteration. Run quite hard with those as well.

The electronics on a c4 with LS1 must be a nightmare. Saw a conversion on a corvette site. Hats off to whoever has done it.

408-99-f

Absolutely the ford purests swap it out for a ford motor of sorts. Not all but the most I have seen they just don't use the original motor. Most now around here just use a old chebby motor.
The "street car" fast list at my local track has/had (I don't keep up with it much) I guess a fox with a BBC and a whole he'll of a lot of n2o. I only saw it from a distance one night so I can't say for sure it has a BBC. But a BBC fox sounds Very BA

AnotherWs6

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Holy effing 80's mustaches. All of those guys were creepy and looked like my uncles 30 years ago.

Lol at 87mph trap speed.

Looks wise the Camaro has it hands down. The 5.0 is just ugly. And what was up with it running like 75 series tires? Nothing says performance like a nice 205/95/14.

Good stuff though. I watched that sow regularly in the 90's.

89BANDIT

^ LMAO at 95 series tires!

Mike Morris

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Be a day in hell when an LS or any mod motor is in my fox. SBF is the best in terms of aftermarket support so it can go as far as you want. You just need to know what your goals are and go from there.

snake95

You're on crack if you believe this Literally step one in the 305 handbook for performance: Swap in a 350.


It's nothing to do with Ford purists. It's GM guys who take a look at the 3 zillion GM models that have been offered over the years, and still let common sense lead them to buying a chassis that actually works...the Mustang.

All those GTOs, Chevelles, Novas, Camaros, TAs, Corvettes, Monzas, Chevy 2s, Monte Carlos, etc etc......and still end up with a FoMoCo chassis. Quite the compliment to Ford.

Dollar to dollar performance the 8.2 deck or 9.5 deck SBF wins all day. EVEN with the handicap the 8.2 has of needing a Dart block to make big power. Still better return per dollar.

codyvette

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Anyone who denies this is definitely a fanboy.
A Camaro should have never been offered in 305. Hell, the 350 had hell with a notch 302.
A Mustang should have came with a 351.
Things would have been awesome if the Camaro would have had sequencial fuel injection, 350, 5 or six speed.

408-99-f

Why? If that's what your into why not? Both are capable of making enough power depending on how you feed them to be a threat in a street/strip application.
To each there own I guess.

408-99-f

Some ford guys believe a ford should stay ford powerd. Not a big deal. Both have had more R&D than the space shuttle. And can get it done.
And plenty of GM chassis cars out there getting it done. And I've seen guys go from a fox to something else. The faster you go the less ford/gm/mopar chassis have to so with it anyway . It's light and has a short wheel base. . It's a good street strip application, but there is plenty of other cars going A to B effectively

AnotherWs6

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Agree that the fox is a great platform for drag racing. Don't like to see LS motors in em though. But you know what? That has abso-fng-lutely nothing to do with this thread about a 35 year old road and track test.

Spamfritter

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I would never put a GM engine in any of my Fords or a Ford engine in my GM vehicles. I have never seen any reason to do that given that Ford and GM both make power plants or have made power plants which are suitable for making power.

Mike Morris

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If GM had used the L98 cam/tpi in all 305s from 85 and up along with 342/323 gears it would have been fine. 351 stang back then would have required a new hood to clear. It would have destroyed a stock AOD/T5 rather fast. It would have also jacked up the price of the car big time. You could get a LX 5.0 308 geared car for less money than a 305 TBI RS Camaro. In terms of performance it was a slaughter. Even Hio will admit where the Mustang shined was price. And because of that people ignored the shortcomings of the car. For 13 grand on the road there was NOTHING that could touch it. And used TPI cars were more money than the LX anything even a loaded one. I do think this test is weird because the 305 TPI auto car unless it had 277 gears should have beat the 302 stang(the 86 Stang lost power but then again so did the TPI F bomb in 86)