Let's start shit . 100% stock 2009 Corvette vs 2018 5.0 with axle back and tune
05-01-2019, 04:00 PM
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You want so badly to be some automotive benchmark for f-bodies that you repeat your same garbage over and over."130 traps! 130 traps! I said it was impossible and then ran a 130 so now I get to go on the internet and say people said it was impossible! Look how sweet muh Z06 engine swap is!"
One thing for sure no one is saying how great your mediocre max effort h/c car is after getting dog walked by a 114 car on a roll. And those are facts.
You like facts right.
Yep but my tune wasn't very good. Allot of stuff was reverted back to stock such as my Driver Demand and cam timing. Also was only seeing 18.5-19 degrees of timing instead of 20-21 now. Needless to say I won't be using that shop again and the only reason I did was because they were recommended as being good, and to get the car on the Dyno to make sure the fueling was spot on. Hard to remote tune these cars with boost and keep a eye on rail pressure.
That being said I fixed 90% of the tune and Brett tweaked in some stuff I didn't get. So I bet it's making a solid 650 on 8psi. With Headers, 10psi, and mixing the E down to 60% to free up some fuel headroom, I think 690-700whp could be done depending on dyno. With Meth injection it would be easy as pie to get into the 700's with a untouched SBE.
You could make damn near the same power NA with a hi-ram, killer heads, cam, and big stall, but I didn't want to sacrifice the driveability. The Whipple setup drives like stock and only spinning 8psi you can't even hear the charger. It's a total sleeper....that is what is fun.
I had a chick in a new 5.0 try to race me from a dig the other day. I let her take off, and I didn't put it down till 3rd gear, went from 2 cars behind to 6-8 cars ahead by 110. I'm sure she had no idea, thought she was gonna jump out on a stock 6th gen and try to hurt some feelings. Well that back fired on her miserably. Lol
Anyway, I am not trying to make excuses. The car runs good. I will hopefully get some vids this season. The coyote definitely is easier to go fast for less coin with boost.
That being said I fixed 90% of the tune and Brett tweaked in some stuff I didn't get. So I bet it's making a solid 650 on 8psi. With Headers, 10psi, and mixing the E down to 60% to free up some fuel headroom, I think 690-700whp could be done depending on dyno. With Meth injection it would be easy as pie to get into the 700's with a untouched SBE.
You could make damn near the same power NA with a hi-ram, killer heads, cam, and big stall, but I didn't want to sacrifice the driveability. The Whipple setup drives like stock and only spinning 8psi you can't even hear the charger. It's a total sleeper....that is what is fun.
I had a chick in a new 5.0 try to race me from a dig the other day. I let her take off, and I didn't put it down till 3rd gear, went from 2 cars behind to 6-8 cars ahead by 110. I'm sure she had no idea, thought she was gonna jump out on a stock 6th gen and try to hurt some feelings. Well that back fired on her miserably. Lol
Anyway, I am not trying to make excuses. The car runs good. I will hopefully get some vids this season. The coyote definitely is easier to go fast for less coin with boost.
To show what you actually know. You were the one calling others out on stuff, to Jay, I saw. Just gave one back to you. Ok done with that stuff.
Duhg. You are the guy who asked for all this. For years you have made negative posts to people about their car/combo/times/hp. You are probably going to say that was all troof & you don't lie. How can you say something negative to someone about their "car stuff" and not even know what that person has all together or even wants? About your 1.2 time.. you're typing whatever, or the other 159 time slips you have, is not proof. If you can do it once you can do it again. Back up slips please. We know your response of "it may never do it again".
One question. Do you really believe flake has a 9 second car? He's seen it right??
And I don't chase you around & harass you. You post in here & so do I. I was happy to see you back in kik. Thought we might bark in there again. If someone asked me who acted the most childish on here.. We know flake takes #1. To me you are a close #2. No offense.
Duhg. You are the guy who asked for all this. For years you have made negative posts to people about their car/combo/times/hp. You are probably going to say that was all troof & you don't lie. How can you say something negative to someone about their "car stuff" and not even know what that person has all together or even wants? About your 1.2 time.. you're typing whatever, or the other 159 time slips you have, is not proof. If you can do it once you can do it again. Back up slips please. We know your response of "it may never do it again".
One question. Do you really believe flake has a 9 second car? He's seen it right??
And I don't chase you around & harass you. You post in here & so do I. I was happy to see you back in kik. Thought we might bark in there again. If someone asked me who acted the most childish on here.. We know flake takes #1. To me you are a close #2. No offense.
Ive typed 100% troof about my 60's. All of them. If you don't like it you can move on. Because you or anyone else sure as hell haven't proved it didn't or couldn't happen. It's only been opinions.
You do chase me around. You've been warned about your crap outside of srk. I ain't interested in being in yalls kik group. If i was i would be in there. See how simple that is.
You guys definitely have the childish factor covered. Just the fact that you want to yak about the same dumb crap on kik proves that.
Now if you want to improve your car I'll gladly chat with ya about my experiences and help where i can. But don't bother me over and over about the same dumb crap. Because I'm interested in moving forward not sideways or backwards.
Why do i what?
At this point i would never put a pd blower on a lt or ls.....unless it was in a truck.
05-01-2019, 04:39 PM
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Lmao. Yeah you’re 100% correct about this. Garret, Precision, On3, Borgwarner, Pro-Charger, Vortech, Whipple, and the literal hundreds of other manufacturers only size their compressors for Ford builds...
05-01-2019, 04:40 PM
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Na is yayJust posting what i was told. Why do you have such a issue with it? Even your buddy soslo whines about the math of me getting to 130+.
One thing for sure no one is saying how great your mediocre max effort h/c car is after getting dog walked by a 114 car on a roll. And those are facts.
You like facts right.So much more effort get put towards the 5br0s because na builds just don't get it done on those things. So most fi stuff revolves around the flow needs of the furd stuff vs the gm stuff.I didn't ask for nothing. I simply stated facts. When your 383 car struggles to leave the 12s it runs like poo. When a cam only ls1 is stuck in the 13s or 12s and gets drug by 112 trap cars it runs like poo. When your h/c ls 4gen gets drug by a tune cat back coyotah you did something wrong.....something very wrong. Now I'm not saying you can't do stuff wrong. I'm saying you're a idiot for doin it wrong. If that hurts you so be it. It's your money wasted. So no.....speaking the truth is not "asking" for anything.
Ive typed 100% troof about my 60's. All of them. If you don't like it you can move on. Because you or anyone else sure as hell haven't proved it didn't or couldn't happen. It's only been opinions.
You do chase me around. You've been warned about your crap outside of srk. I ain't interested in being in yalls kik group. If i was i would be in there. See how simple that is.
You guys definitely have the childish factor covered. Just the fact that you want to yak about the same dumb crap on kik proves that.
Now if you want to improve your car I'll gladly chat with ya about my experiences and help where i can. But don't bother me over and over about the same dumb crap. Because I'm interested in moving forward not sideways or backwards.Why do i what?At this point i would never put a pd blower on a lt or ls.....unless it was in a truck.
One thing for sure no one is saying how great your mediocre max effort h/c car is after getting dog walked by a 114 car on a roll. And those are facts.
You like facts right.So much more effort get put towards the 5br0s because na builds just don't get it done on those things. So most fi stuff revolves around the flow needs of the furd stuff vs the gm stuff.I didn't ask for nothing. I simply stated facts. When your 383 car struggles to leave the 12s it runs like poo. When a cam only ls1 is stuck in the 13s or 12s and gets drug by 112 trap cars it runs like poo. When your h/c ls 4gen gets drug by a tune cat back coyotah you did something wrong.....something very wrong. Now I'm not saying you can't do stuff wrong. I'm saying you're a idiot for doin it wrong. If that hurts you so be it. It's your money wasted. So no.....speaking the truth is not "asking" for anything.
Ive typed 100% troof about my 60's. All of them. If you don't like it you can move on. Because you or anyone else sure as hell haven't proved it didn't or couldn't happen. It's only been opinions.
You do chase me around. You've been warned about your crap outside of srk. I ain't interested in being in yalls kik group. If i was i would be in there. See how simple that is.
You guys definitely have the childish factor covered. Just the fact that you want to yak about the same dumb crap on kik proves that.
Now if you want to improve your car I'll gladly chat with ya about my experiences and help where i can. But don't bother me over and over about the same dumb crap. Because I'm interested in moving forward not sideways or backwards.Why do i what?At this point i would never put a pd blower on a lt or ls.....unless it was in a truck.
It drives you nuts so you hang onto 114. Why don't you go fishing thru his posts yourself to find it. I know the truth so don't have to hold your petite hand to show you where he cleared it up. Your Camaro was an 11.2-4 car, sorry if that fact hurts as well. Your mustang is an embarrassment to the hobby. More facts
05-01-2019, 05:29 PM
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On a side note I have a lot of ricers by me and they always want to pace me and let the blow off valve loose which in turn I open my cutout and rip there head off. (I know your post was about boosted Ls)
05-01-2019, 05:46 PM
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Probably not.....because again most people do **** like ****.
I splained how to do better.
Most those roush cars seem to struggle to get past mid 11s.
If you really want to test pump gas theories vs ls or lt stuff coyite will lose worse. It comes down to cylinder pressure. The coyotah has to run a a fuel first to make even the same power if both systems being compared are efficient.
Who knows.....another reason to hate fb. Alot of stuff like that was on forums. Now there's just random **** everywhere.
Well since the lt can make 500whp with bolt ons i would say that's one terrible inefficient set up.
This is where the auxiliary port injection comes in. The fuel would also help cool the charge in the port which would help keep the rings from butting to.
Than a hurt ls3 vette sure. Both in perfect running condition not so much.
See jay....more stupid repetition.
You 60 in the 1.8s with 500whp. Wtf do you know.......think about it.
I splained how to do better.
Most those roush cars seem to struggle to get past mid 11s.
If you really want to test pump gas theories vs ls or lt stuff coyite will lose worse. It comes down to cylinder pressure. The coyotah has to run a a fuel first to make even the same power if both systems being compared are efficient.
Who knows.....another reason to hate fb. Alot of stuff like that was on forums. Now there's just random **** everywhere.
Well since the lt can make 500whp with bolt ons i would say that's one terrible inefficient set up.
This is where the auxiliary port injection comes in. The fuel would also help cool the charge in the port which would help keep the rings from butting to.
Than a hurt ls3 vette sure. Both in perfect running condition not so much.
See jay....more stupid repetition.
You 60 in the 1.8s with 500whp. Wtf do you know.......think about it.
05-01-2019, 06:30 PM
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I did answer it. Not my fault you're to dumb to figure that out.
Yea the clutch was ****. Doin all the funky stuff gm clutches typically do. Not that you know anything at all about clutches.
Yea the clutch was ****. Doin all the funky stuff gm clutches typically do. Not that you know anything at all about clutches.
05-01-2019, 06:45 PM
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Facts are I lost a ROLL race to a car that makes more power and has trapped higher It drives you nuts so you hang onto 114. Why don't you go fishing thru his posts yourself to find it. I know the truth so don't have to hold your petite hand to show you where he cleared it up.
Your Camaro was an 11.2-4 car, sorry if that fact hurts as well. Your mustang is an embarrassment to the hobby. More facts
It drives you nuts so you hang onto 114. Why don't you go fishing thru his posts yourself to find it. I know the truth so don't have to hold your petite hand to show you where he cleared it up.Your Camaro was an 11.2-4 car, sorry if that fact hurts as well. Your mustang is an embarrassment to the hobby. More facts
Doe it look like a 11.4 ride? Can you read the board? I can tell you no 114 trap car will walk either of my cars. It sure did yours tho. At that's some of those facts you try to avoid.
Hows that for a
Shame it didn't get run in it's final form
It don't take that much. There6a whole pile of boosted cars that wouldn't run with phils or my bolt on cars.
05-01-2019, 07:04 PM
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Aint that the truth, theres a lot of FI cars that run like ****. Basic cammed/bolton C6Z’s are usually mid 130’s but also a few running around that trap north of 140 with more mods. Certainly a lot of FI cars that dont go much if any faster then that which is a damn shame.
05-01-2019, 07:12 PM
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Take the og blower KB 2.2 for 4.6 03 Cobra made the first 600whp on pump gas and you’ve now got -
2.2
2.4
2.6
2.8
2.9
3.0
3.4
3.6
4.0
You guys can’t be tying to convince this educated audience that there is not a rotor size and design for a GM LT/LS?
Maybe I misunderstood you and Hio about blowers being built for Fords
Hell Whipple even makes Marine and Avaiation applications.
See, when I read this type of post it almost (sounds) like GM’s excuse for less than stellar numbers? No?
05-01-2019, 07:16 PM
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Aint that the truth, theres a lot of FI cars that run like ****. Basic cammed/bolton C6Z’s are usually mid 130’s but also a few running around that trap north of 140 with more mods. Certainly a lot of FI cars that dont go much if any faster then that which is a damn shame.
It made 630whp and that was my goal and I reached it.
It was maxed, I remember thinking on the way home after tuning how could I make more and I got very used to 636rwhp even in a 3050 C6Z - but - that’s the only car (6spd and 3:42) that can run that number but where do you go after that?
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05-01-2019, 07:45 PM
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RPM had first 9.82 @ 143 mph C6Z - n/a on 93
It made 630whp and that was my goal and I reached it.
It was maxed, I remember thinking on the way home after tuning how could I make more and I got very used to 636rwhp even in a 3050 C6Z - but - that’s the only car (6spd and 3:42) that can run that number but where do you go after that?
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It made 630whp and that was my goal and I reached it.
It was maxed, I remember thinking on the way home after tuning how could I make more and I got very used to 636rwhp even in a 3050 C6Z - but - that’s the only car (6spd and 3:42) that can run that number but where do you go after that?
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05-01-2019, 08:56 PM
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So because I don't have a manual car means I somehow don't know about clutches? Wow great logic elf Lord. Tell us more excuses as to why mustang gt is quicker than vettes at your track😂
05-01-2019, 08:58 PM
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I like na. It takes a bit more finesse imo. All this newer stuff can go plenty fast to be fun.....and I'm not gonna spend enough $ to try and beat erryone.
I don't think i said that. It's just been recently that these power adders has caught up tho. There was no purpose putting alot of these blowers on ls stuff 10years ago. And still there's alot of guys trying stuff that just isn't right.
Here ya go
https://youtu.be/_VzZ88XRLYE
Doe it look like a 11.4 ride? Can you read the board? I can tell you no 114 trap car will walk either of my cars. It sure did yours tho. At that's some of those facts you try to avoid.
Hows that for a
Shame it didn't get run in it's final form
It don't take that much. There6a whole pile of boosted cars that wouldn't run with phils or my bolt on cars.
I don't think i said that. It's just been recently that these power adders has caught up tho. There was no purpose putting alot of these blowers on ls stuff 10years ago. And still there's alot of guys trying stuff that just isn't right.
Here ya go
https://youtu.be/_VzZ88XRLYE
Doe it look like a 11.4 ride? Can you read the board? I can tell you no 114 trap car will walk either of my cars. It sure did yours tho. At that's some of those facts you try to avoid.
Hows that for a
Shame it didn't get run in it's final form
It don't take that much. There6a whole pile of boosted cars that wouldn't run with phils or my bolt on cars.
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