I just ran a viper rt/10!!
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^ I agree. 1st Gen Vipers weigh about 3400 lbs. They're right on the scale with the FBodies, so unless insom's car had some weight redux, they should weigh about the same.
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Originally Posted by Ravenous T\A
Insom's doing 372rwhp, so thats about what 440-450 flywheel Hp right? Viper(depending on year) are rated 450hp at the Flwheel, seem pretty equal race to me, and since the viper weighs more than insom's why is this so hard to believe?
Remeber though, that 488 V-10 is a violent motor!
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in a steet race anything can happen. If it was a gen 1 viper they are faily evenly matched for power. The gen 1 viper weighs about 3450 so it looks like you had a good weight advantage. I wouldn't call BS at all
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i kinda expected some of ya'll to say that.. its not like low 12 @ 116/118 is unbeatable by a ls1.. just cause its a "VIPER" ppl call bs. .
would of been the same thing if i ran a ferrari modena or somethin.. just cause its a car people idolize.
anyway i wouldn't bother posting it if it didn't happen.. i don't have anyone on here to impress.. it was just a fun race and thought i'd share.. probably one of the few times i'll get a chance to run one
would of been the same thing if i ran a ferrari modena or somethin.. just cause its a car people idolize.
anyway i wouldn't bother posting it if it didn't happen.. i don't have anyone on here to impress.. it was just a fun race and thought i'd share.. probably one of the few times i'll get a chance to run one
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Originally Posted by Ravenous T\A
Insom's doing 372rwhp, so thats about what 440-450 flywheel Hp right? Viper(depending on year) are rated 450hp at the Flwheel, seem pretty equal race to me, and since the viper weighs more than insom's why is this so hard to believe?
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Anyone stop to think that the Viper's driver was a moron to begin with?
If the cars were a close match or not...one driver was superior at the roll and one was better at the launch....
that is all
If the cars were a close match or not...one driver was superior at the roll and one was better at the launch....
that is all
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http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/roadtests/37426/
Thought some of you might find this interesting... its not the same model..but a stock 99 Viper ...
Dyno chart link... http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/m...mage_large.jpg
Thought some of you might find this interesting... its not the same model..but a stock 99 Viper ...
Dyno chart link... http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/m...mage_large.jpg
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Originally Posted by S8ER95Z
http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/roadtests/37426/
Thought some of you might find this interesting... its not the same model..but a stock 99 Viper ...
Dyno chart link... http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/m...mage_large.jpg
Thought some of you might find this interesting... its not the same model..but a stock 99 Viper ...
Dyno chart link... http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/m...mage_large.jpg
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Well im not 100% sure but I think the SRTs have a lil more power..anyone have some weight figures on a Gen II viper???
I have 3383lbs as claimed here http://auto.consumerguide.com/auto/u...ex.cfm/id/2305
A Stock Z06 would give one a hell of a run (dunno how close they are on listed times) so if you can take on a Z06, I would think running a GenI or II viper shouldnt be an issue...unless modded... In this months hotrod there is a Viper with a 150 shot running solid 10s.![Icon Eek](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies2/icon_eek.gif)
More info here...
http://www.vipercentral.com/buy/specs/specs98.htm
These are not helping the Viper out either...holy crap!!!!
Drag Coefficient 0.495 (top off)
0.46 (soft top)
0.45 (hard top) - RT/10
0.35 - GTS
0.29 - C5
0.34 - F-body
I have 3383lbs as claimed here http://auto.consumerguide.com/auto/u...ex.cfm/id/2305
A Stock Z06 would give one a hell of a run (dunno how close they are on listed times) so if you can take on a Z06, I would think running a GenI or II viper shouldnt be an issue...unless modded... In this months hotrod there is a Viper with a 150 shot running solid 10s.
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More info here...
http://www.vipercentral.com/buy/specs/specs98.htm
These are not helping the Viper out either...holy crap!!!!
Drag Coefficient 0.495 (top off)
0.46 (soft top)
0.45 (hard top) - RT/10
0.35 - GTS
0.29 - C5
0.34 - F-body
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Originally Posted by S8ER95Z
These are not helping the Viper out either...holy crap!!!!
Drag Coefficient 0.495 (top off)
0.46 (soft top)
0.45 (hard top) - RT/10
0.35 - GTS
0.29 - C5
0.34 - F-body
Drag Coefficient 0.495 (top off)
0.46 (soft top)
0.45 (hard top) - RT/10
0.35 - GTS
0.29 - C5
0.34 - F-body
At least for the the GTS and the S.R.T-10's, the Viper aerodynamics actually generate downforce at higher speeds (unlike C5's or F-bodies). The engine cooling is also a priority with the relatively uninhibited front end radiator access through the cross hairs. Its a trade off for making the car more suitable for a closed race course. But you are correct, it certainly wont help the Viper in a street race!
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I was at Kennedale this past Sunday and there was a newer Viper there (the 500+HP model). I saw him make 2 runs. The first was an 8.4 and the second was an 8.3. I think the car probably had faster times in it if he could drive a bit better though. Incidentally, 8.4 is about what I've also seen most Z06's run on street tires too.
I'm willing to bet that with some good driving that Viper might be capable of an 8.1 or 8.0, so do the math, can your car outrun a new Viper? Go to the track, stop talking **** and find out for sure!
I'm willing to bet that with some good driving that Viper might be capable of an 8.1 or 8.0, so do the math, can your car outrun a new Viper? Go to the track, stop talking **** and find out for sure!
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Originally Posted by Creed
I was at Kennedale this past Sunday and there was a newer Viper there (the 500+HP model). I saw him make 2 runs. The first was an 8.4 and the second was an 8.3. I think the car probably had faster times in it if he could drive a bit better though. Incidentally, 8.4 is about what I've also seen most Z06's run on street tires too.
I'm willing to bet that with some good driving that Viper might be capable of an 8.1 or 8.0, so do the math, can your car outrun a new Viper? Go to the track, stop talking **** and find out for sure!![Grin](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_grin.gif)
I'm willing to bet that with some good driving that Viper might be capable of an 8.1 or 8.0, so do the math, can your car outrun a new Viper? Go to the track, stop talking **** and find out for sure!
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Here is my take on it. I raced an RT10 (not an S.R.T.10) and I pulled him from a roll by 1.5-2 cars. People called bs on me etc. It was black with the removable top. The guy jumped me the first time and i didnt even race then I got back up and downshifted to 3rd. When he heard my exhaust he tried to jump me again but i caught him and walked him. I am assuming it was an early model RT10 (400-405hp) because i was only making 368rwhp/336rwtq at the time (I also ran 12.5 @ 114mph).
I can see the poster running pretty even with a 450hp model. He should walk a 400hp model like I did (even with the viper taking the hit).