i got killed by a 4 cyl :(
09-14-2004, 08:04 AM
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What about the engine in the older (92 I think) MR2 turbos? If I recall they are basically a 4 cylinder version of the Supra engine. Like the 3800 series 2 to the LS1.
09-14-2004, 09:22 AM
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Oztek are you serious? NOT driver error?
He went from 40 mph IN FOURTH ******* GEAR.
My S10 6cyc pickup truck would outrun him like that.
And he's stupid enough to say he "probably should have been in 3rd."
Try second. A stock f-body doesn't even shift into 2nd till 45 mph or so.
He went from 40 mph IN FOURTH ******* GEAR.
My S10 6cyc pickup truck would outrun him like that.
And he's stupid enough to say he "probably should have been in 3rd."
Try second. A stock f-body doesn't even shift into 2nd till 45 mph or so.
09-14-2004, 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by poweredbyv8
whats the cheapest clutch that could handle a 100 shot? would a 100 shot kill my 115k mile LS1?
09-14-2004, 09:54 PM
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There is a guy on here with a sweet black VR4, hell of clean and fast too... 
When I got my z28 in 2002, I raced a vr-4 with some upgraded turbo from a stand and got raped by 2-3 car lenghts. I was bone stock at the time
When I got my z28 in 2002, I raced a vr-4 with some upgraded turbo from a stand and got raped by 2-3 car lenghts. I was bone stock at the time
09-16-2004, 12:55 AM
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30 mph in 1st gear is closer to redlining than 50 mph in 2nd gear. a 30 punch in 1st gear in an ls1 f-body is poetry worthy. rev that dude up a little, maby you will do better the next round. if you dont feel comfortable gassin her up a little, try it by yourself in the middle of nowhere a few times to get the feel of the power. it may take a while but it will be worth it. if you plan on spraying it, reving it to 5500 or so isnt chit.
now i shall quote the ever knowledgable words of martin lawrence from blue streak
"every now and then you gotta feed some SPEED to yo ride" lol
now i shall quote the ever knowledgable words of martin lawrence from blue streak
"every now and then you gotta feed some SPEED to yo ride" lol
09-16-2004, 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Oztek
The 7-bolt 4g63s had issues with crank walk. The 6-bolts are just fine.
It was no driver error. He got smacked by a Galant VR-4.
It was no driver error. He got smacked by a Galant VR-4.
correct me if i,m wrong didn,t he say 4 cyl, a vr4 is a v6.
An 80,s galant with int cooler and boost at 20psi will beat a stock ls1, i have been there, hence saving to fit charger.
09-16-2004, 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by ls1 1990 VN
correct me if i,m wrong didn,t he say 4 cyl, a vr4 is a v6.
The VR4 is the same drive-train as a DSM: 4g63 Turbo charged engine. There is a twin turbo v6 models of the vr4 but that is JDM only.
09-16-2004, 06:29 PM
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I had 4 talon tsi AWD before my TA and i will tell you first hand that they can be made very fast for cheap. One of mine ran low 13's with just an exhaust and the boost at 14psi. the 4g63 responds to boost very well and for a motor with 7.8:1 cr has alot more TQ then just about any other import on the streets. The VR4 is about 1000lbs lighter and is a real sleeper. Heres a vid of a quick 4g63 , ibet you never would expect that outta a 4 banger lol.
http://shepracing.com/videos/shep876.avi
http://shepracing.com/videos/shep876.avi
09-16-2004, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Oztek
Consider yourself corrected.
The VR4 is the same drive-train as a DSM: 4g63 Turbo charged engine. There is a twin turbo v6 models of the vr4 but that is JDM only.
The VR4 is the same drive-train as a DSM: 4g63 Turbo charged engine. There is a twin turbo v6 models of the vr4 but that is JDM only.
Runs mid 12s with the roof rack on, on street tires.
09-16-2004, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by white-ta
The VR4 is about 1000lbs lighter and is a real sleeper. Heres a vid of a quick 4g63 , ibet you never would expect that outta a 4 banger lol.
http://shepracing.com/videos/shep876.avi
http://shepracing.com/videos/shep876.avi
09-16-2004, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by chrisgvr4
Galant VR-4s weigh more the talon, eclipses, and lasers. AVG with driver is probably 3400-3600 lbs.
. Now them there colts with a 4g63 swap those can be nasty 
09-17-2004, 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by white-ta
The VR4 is about 1000lbs lighter and is a real sleeper.http://shepracing.com/videos/shep876.avi
The VR4 is a few hundred pounds heavier. It's about 3150-3200 lbs.
09-17-2004, 08:50 AM
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no, its an iron block.
Im sure that if i searched the net, i could find a video of just about ANY car making its engine disintegrate. When you run high boost for a long time and you race it very often, things break. What person that calls themselves an automotive enthusiast doesnt know that?
OMG did you see that video of the z06 blowing its motor? What a POS.
If you can find a 4 cyl motor that holds up to boost better than the 4g63t then be my guest and find one.
Im sure that if i searched the net, i could find a video of just about ANY car making its engine disintegrate. When you run high boost for a long time and you race it very often, things break. What person that calls themselves an automotive enthusiast doesnt know that?
OMG did you see that video of the z06 blowing its motor? What a POS.
If you can find a 4 cyl motor that holds up to boost better than the 4g63t then be my guest and find one.
Show me a video of a Z06 thats a street car that has his block disintegrate. We are talking about block strength here not piston, ring, rod etc...
09-17-2004, 12:01 PM
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Wow, what a wealth of mis-information.
The Galant Vr-4 was made in Japan. It was released in USDM models in 91 and 92. ALL of them have 6-bolt 4G63s, All wheel drive, 4 wheel steering, 5 speed, and leather.
They have the same engine and drivetrain as a 91 AWD DSM (Talon/Eclipse/Laser). They weight a few hundred pounds more.
The video of that Eclipse raciong a BMW was a 7-bolt motor that fell apart. Mitsubishi had a bad run of 7-bolt motors. Their oiling system sucked. It affected nearly 15% of those engines. Some blew up, some had no problems.
4G63s are iron with and aluminum head. The stock USDM output is rated at 205hp/195tq.
My GVR4 is faster than my lightly modded TA on only 12psi. I normally run 18psi if that is any indication of what these cars can easily do.
EDIT: My above reference about poorly built 7-bolts was referring to crankwalk. It can happen to any engine. 7-bolts are just more prone to it. Toyota 7Ms do it too.
The Galant Vr-4 was made in Japan. It was released in USDM models in 91 and 92. ALL of them have 6-bolt 4G63s, All wheel drive, 4 wheel steering, 5 speed, and leather.
They have the same engine and drivetrain as a 91 AWD DSM (Talon/Eclipse/Laser). They weight a few hundred pounds more.
The video of that Eclipse raciong a BMW was a 7-bolt motor that fell apart. Mitsubishi had a bad run of 7-bolt motors. Their oiling system sucked. It affected nearly 15% of those engines. Some blew up, some had no problems.
4G63s are iron with and aluminum head. The stock USDM output is rated at 205hp/195tq.
My GVR4 is faster than my lightly modded TA on only 12psi. I normally run 18psi if that is any indication of what these cars can easily do.
EDIT: My above reference about poorly built 7-bolts was referring to crankwalk. It can happen to any engine. 7-bolts are just more prone to it. Toyota 7Ms do it too.
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09-17-2004, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by RedReaper
A friend if mine has a Talon that he thinks is the greatest thing since cotton candy. As far as being the strongest arent 4G63s aluminum?? I am sure there is one that is tronger than that one. As a matter of fact there is a video of a guy in a Talon or Eclipse, both have 4G63s in them, racing a BMW and his block disintegrates about 10 seconds in. So I guess they arent as strong as he thinks. 
www.pistonslap.com
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09-17-2004, 02:35 PM
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Just another GVR4 owner checking in. Good death. I love to run LS1's.
BTW: I have made 391 WHP with my car and I have over 100 trips down the track. The motor has 170K + miles on it, all on the factory long block. I just wish they made the drive train as strong as the engine.
Here is me and my buddy Mike(LS1) going at it over a year ago.
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http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...ZmQzMXk1NDE%3D
BTW: I have made 391 WHP with my car and I have over 100 trips down the track. The motor has 170K + miles on it, all on the factory long block. I just wish they made the drive train as strong as the engine.
Here is me and my buddy Mike(LS1) going at it over a year ago.
Right click save as:
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...ZmQzMXk1NDE%3D
