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Old 11-19-2004 | 09:01 AM
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beat his *** and make him race!!!!!!!
Old 11-19-2004 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by MJSLude99
I really want to see that race! I read through three pages of posts and still nothing. It's funny that he stated your LS1 is old technology, yet his Impala has the same GM V-6 engine that has been changed very very little since it was introduced in the 80s.
Actually, try the 50's. The 3.8L V6 that we know today as the Series 3800 started life as a tractor engine in the 50's. In the 80's Buick took it, brought it up to current day standards (of the 80's), turbocharged it, and made it a monster. In 86 they added an intercooler, and made even more of a monster. In the meantime they adapted it in other forms to a FWD layout and used it here too. It then became a GM Powertrain motor and exists as we know it today.

This is purposely a Cliff's Notes version, so I left a lot of history out intentionally.

Oh, I too am eagerly awaiting! I love the Impala's for what they're intended for, but would never make a bonehead challenge like this to an F-Body owner.
Old 11-19-2004 | 11:55 AM
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if he makes another excuse about the i definately fell a coming on
Old 11-19-2004 | 03:26 PM
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I had a 98 Monte Carlo with a 3.8, and all I have to say is,

This guy must have finally woken up! I ran a 15.7 with a drop in K&N, and that Impala has to weigh a couple hundred more pounds. I like my car for getting to work and such, but I never even considered picking races with it.
Old 11-19-2004 | 04:26 PM
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I had 3.8 camaro and the car was so slow. Your gonna slaughter him!
Old 11-19-2004 | 08:43 PM
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i had a grand prix gtp was really fast but sc.
Old 11-19-2004 | 11:56 PM
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damn, I want to see this outcome. I know the new impalla is now supercharged. I think it's 260hp. Runs a 14.8, not bad but racing a modded ls1? Some just don't have a clue, hehe. Oh well. I agree, no mercy. You have to beat him real bad to get the point, I mean, about 10 cars worth.
Old 11-20-2004 | 01:10 AM
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The new Impala "SS" version is rated at 240 hp / 280 tq and gets the Series II 3800 L67 Motor that the 97-03 GTPs had.. The GTPs 04 and newer got the Series III 3800 motor rated at 260 hp and 280 tq. The extra 20 HP is from the Gen V M90 Blower

Having said that, if the Impala is the SS version and has the SC engine, it will hang with the LS1 upto 50-55 mph due to it's torque and it'll be all over after that!

If the Impala is somewhat modded i.e. say a 3.4" pulley, Intake, and PCM [most common *beginner* mods for the L67 engine] it can lead a stock LS1 upto 70ish, again because of the torque [probably around 320 lb/ft now], and then give up.. but I doubt this Impala is quite that

97-03 GTPs run anywhere from 14.8-14.4 @ 95-97 mph bone stock!.. I've witnessed atleast 3 factory stock GTPs run 14.1s @ 98 mph.. Still no match with LS1s, drivers being equal ofcourse If the GTP/Impala SS/Monte SS is a bit more modded i.e. rockers, headers, smaller pulley.. stock LS1s watch out!
Old 11-20-2004 | 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by BlownGTX
If the Impala is somewhat modded i.e. say a 3.4" pulley, Intake, and PCM [most common *beginner* mods for the L67 engine] it can lead a stock LS1 upto 70ish, again because of the torque [probably around 320 lb/ft now], and then give up.. but I doubt this Impala is quite that

Even "if" his impala had that, are you saying that the torque it would make would pull away from an 350rwhp STALLED ls1?
Old 11-20-2004 | 08:55 AM
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Even "if" his impala had that, are you saying that the torque it would make would pull away from an 350rwhp STALLED ls1?
I said "stock" LS1... Huge difference between that and a stalled one
Old 11-20-2004 | 10:06 AM
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But what if he has stickers?
Old 11-20-2004 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Damillio
But what if he has stickers?
Depends. NOS stickers are worth at least 100hp. K&N stickers are worth about 20hp. I think a VTEC badge, on any car, is worth at least 150hp.
Old 11-20-2004 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Skarecrow
Depends. NOS stickers are worth at least 100hp. K&N stickers are worth about 20hp. I think a VTEC badge, on any car, is worth at least 150hp.
But then again you have to get dynoed to know fore sure.
Old 11-20-2004 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by BlownGTX
The new Impala "SS" version is rated at 240 hp / 280 tq and gets the Series II 3800 L67 Motor that the 97-03 GTPs had.. The GTPs 04 and newer got the Series III 3800 motor rated at 260 hp and 280 tq. The extra 20 HP is from the Gen V M90 Blower

Having said that, if the Impala is the SS version and has the SC engine, it will hang with the LS1 upto 50-55 mph due to it's torque and it'll be all over after that!

If the Impala is somewhat modded i.e. say a 3.4" pulley, Intake, and PCM [most common *beginner* mods for the L67 engine] it can lead a stock LS1 upto 70ish, again because of the torque [probably around 320 lb/ft now], and then give up.. but I doubt this Impala is quite that

97-03 GTPs run anywhere from 14.8-14.4 @ 95-97 mph bone stock!.. I've witnessed atleast 3 factory stock GTPs run 14.1s @ 98 mph.. Still no match with LS1s, drivers being equal ofcourse If the GTP/Impala SS/Monte SS is a bit more modded i.e. rockers, headers, smaller pulley.. stock LS1s watch out!
I've seen low 15s high 14s, but I've never seen one running low 14s.

Anyway, there's some good upgrades for these though. I mean major work and they run 12s.

www.3800performance.com

Their stage 6 says possibly high 12s. An ls1 can run that with slicks and a 6 speed. Just a cammed one only would run lows 12s.
Old 11-21-2004 | 03:31 AM
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TTT, updates?
Old 11-21-2004 | 11:53 AM
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well i raced a new body style monte SS two days ago, and i walked him HARD. he was following me and was gettin right up my ***, then backin off. So as soon as i got an open section i downed it and took off on him. HE tried to stay with me but i was putting more carlenghts on him by the second. So i slowed down and he came flying up again and i did the same thing again. and he got left in the dust... again.

This is definately gonna be an interesting race, interesting to see how many buslengths this impala loses by.
Old 11-21-2004 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Jimbo
video tape him filling ur tank too!!!
...this has the potential to be a classic!
Old 11-21-2004 | 10:15 PM
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I'm starting to think this isn't going to happen......
Old 11-22-2004 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Velocity
I'm starting to think this isn't going to happen......
I agree!
Old 11-22-2004 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Velocity
I'm starting to think this isn't going to happen......




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