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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 10:54 AM
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FYI Dodge owns Jeep.
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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by LSWannabe
They put the 5.9 in the 96-97s something like that. When they changed the body style to the newer (not newest, 05 has the hemi) they used the 4.7 liter V8. My mom has a 99 Grand Cherokee w/ the 4.7. The earlier ones w/ the 360 have the mid 90's grand cherokee styling and the back of the lift gate says V8, but underneath in small writing it will say 5.9 liter. They didnt put those engines in very many years.
It's the 5.9 Limited. Not too sure about the year.
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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 11:05 AM
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Curious? How did you respond to that comment? I don't know if I'd laugh out loud, in his face, or immediately ask him to bet on it. How did you react?
I looked at him as if he was serious. I'm not the type to demand races. The car is not where I want her to be as far as speed is concerned but don't talk smack about the way it is now. He's really ignorant as far as cars are concerned. He used to ride a GSXR 750, he sold it. He actually thinks that the Jeep is really fast and that his acts like the 427 N/A T/A that was the first to run 9s. He said oh that how my truck is.
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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Roarin_8
It's the 5.9 Limited. Not too sure about the year.
Yeah, I think its like the 96/97 GC Limited that had the 5.9 option. The newer style ones (pre 05) had the Grand Cherokee laredo (4.7 V8 optional) and the Grand Cherokee limited (4.7 V8 standard, they only had one size V8 in production for the 98/99s-04s)
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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 04:58 PM
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I am afraid that if you do, in fact, race him then he may think... "wow if I can get a camaro to race me, then I must be acceptable competition". Which is definitly not the case.... You know what I mean?
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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 09:25 PM
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If he's stock then I'd say you'd have him pretty easily. But if you are on a shitty road with old glossy blacktop, then he'll have you up till about 50 or possibly 60, then you'll go roaring by. But if he was modded then I'd be wondering what was done,...I've seen some run in the 12's.
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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by LSWannabe
Yeah, I think its like the 96/97 GC Limited that had the 5.9 option. The newer style ones (pre 05) had the Grand Cherokee laredo (4.7 V8 optional) and the Grand Cherokee limited (4.7 V8 standard, they only had one size V8 in production for the 98/99s-04s)
It was about a quarter of the year in '98 when they were made. Very limited production. I'm picking one up next week. It'll be the closest thing to the t/a that I can get in the winter.
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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike 01WS6
If he's stock then I'd say you'd have him pretty easily. But if you are on a shitty road with old glossy blacktop, then he'll have you up till about 50 or possibly 60, then you'll go roaring by. But if he was modded then I'd be wondering what was done,...I've seen some run in the 12's.
He is stock and we will go on a dry road. He says it doesn't matter what kind of race we do and that I need all the help I can get. He even wanted to do like a 5 mile race. I've been in his jeep and it doesn't pull no where near as hard as the Z.
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Old Nov 26, 2004 | 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by SteelBallz
I am afraid that if you do, in fact, race him then he may think... "wow if I can get a camaro to race me, then I must be acceptable competition". Which is definitly not the case.... You know what I mean?
We wont feel like acceptable competition when he's getting buslengths put on him. 5 mile race!!!!

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It was only a quarter year in 98 that had them.
Yeah, I knew it was somewhere around there. Very limited production of them. Then they changed the body style for 99 and up, thats right.
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Old Nov 26, 2004 | 09:15 AM
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offer to race him but to really f*@k with him, tell him you will give him a couple of car lengths to make it fair!!!!
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Old Nov 26, 2004 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by LastYearZ28
I beat a new hemi ram with my poor old crown vic before I sold it..lol. You should have no problem unless you run on flat tires or run out of gas.
now that just depends on which version your racing. My 4x4 quad cab hemi ran 15.4 bone stock. Now the 2wd standard cab, short bed runs 14.7-15.1s bone stock. Those crown vics were no faster than my thunderbird, lol.

Besides, here is one that my friend owns. On a 100 shot of nitrous, it runs 12.65, stock motor, home made intake and no muffler.
Beat a blown chevy silverado. Wasn't even close.

http://www.speakeasy.org/~lphilippjr...mi777-1265.wmv
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Old Nov 26, 2004 | 09:42 AM
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I would ask him if he wants to put some money on it. If he is so sure of himself. I would say $100 or dinner someplace, tank of gas. Something like that.
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Old Nov 26, 2004 | 12:09 PM
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I'll see what he says today.
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Old Nov 26, 2004 | 03:29 PM
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The only year the 5.9 G.C. was available was in 1998. My mom has one and it's pretty cool. I'm not sure what the difference between the Jeeps 5.9, but it is rated more than my truck, which is an 94 Dodge Ram 1500 360 4x4.

I came accross a story from Stangnet a long time ago that was a race between a 5.9 and an 88 Mustang GT vert. The Jeep was not stock, but it had little things like headers, intake, ect. The Jeep lost by like a car or so, so an ls1 should take Jeep no problem.
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Old Nov 26, 2004 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by LSWannabe
Yeah, I think its like the 96/97 GC Limited that had the 5.9 option. The newer style ones (pre 05) had the Grand Cherokee laredo (4.7 V8 optional) and the Grand Cherokee limited (4.7 V8 standard, they only had one size V8 in production for the 98/99s-04s)
Don't forget about the 5.2.

98 had three options, the 4.7, 5.2, 5.9

99-04 4.7 and I believe the 5.2
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Originally Posted by LSWannabe
My mom has a 99 Grand Cherokee w/ the 4.7. The earlier ones w/ the 360 have the mid 90's grand cherokee styling and the back of the lift gate says V8, but underneath in small writing it will say 5.9 liter. They didnt put those engines in very many years.
Only about 5000 were produced. Only came in three colors (Black, white, silver), different grill, hood vents, had options that a normal Limited couldn't get. They also say "5.9 Limited" on the doors.
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Old Nov 26, 2004 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by _JB_
Only about 5000 were produced. Only came in three colors (Black, white, silver), different grill, hood vents, had options that a normal Limited couldn't get. They also say "5.9 Limited" on the doors.
Exactly. His is black with the hood vents and 5.9 Limited in gold color on the doors. Again, his Jeep is completely stock.
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Old Nov 26, 2004 | 05:38 PM
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done even bother to race him....
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Old Nov 26, 2004 | 09:19 PM
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Wickedwarlock, lets get some things straight first. The chevy that he raced was using a Powerdyne supercharger, which is the least desireable supercharger for LS motors. They are non intercooled and only getting 5-6 pounds of boost. Strap on a Radix or Procharger with 9-10 pounds of boost and H777 would be toast. Plus to get the full effect of a centrifical supercharger you have to have a high stall (which he probley didnt have) since our trucks weight is a disadvantage. I still dont believe H777, I drove a Hemi and wasnt impressed at all with the performance. Heck with his supposed 14 second run on a stock motor, he could have expiermented with his NOS using a smaller shot just to try it out. The reason why I dont believe him is because there is a lot of RCSB members over at DTW with headers, tune, exhaust, intake that have spent a lot of money and is seeing low to mid 14 seconds passes. He actually had the advantage when he raced the Powerdyned supercharged truck. That guy with the supercharger has to get a intercooler and up the boost and get a custom tune and it would be bye bye H777.
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Old Nov 26, 2004 | 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by onequick5.3
Wickedwarlock, lets get some things straight first. The chevy that he raced was using a Powerdyne supercharger, which is the least desireable supercharger for LS motors. They are non intercooled and only getting 5-6 pounds of boost. Strap on a Radix or Procharger with 9-10 pounds of boost and H777 would be toast. Plus to get the full effect of a centrifical supercharger you have to have a high stall (which he probley didnt have) since our trucks weight is a disadvantage. I still dont believe H777, I drove a Hemi and wasnt impressed at all with the performance. Heck with his supposed 14 second run on a stock motor, he could have expiermented with his NOS using a smaller shot just to try it out. The reason why I dont believe him is because there is a lot of RCSB members over at DTW with headers, tune, exhaust, intake that have spent a lot of money and is seeing low to mid 14 seconds passes. He actually had the advantage when he raced the Powerdyned supercharged truck. That guy with the supercharger has to get a intercooler and up the boost and get a custom tune and it would be bye bye H777.
First, his runs are real. I bought the NX Works kit after all the nay-sayers said he was spraying. So, I'm telling you it's true, that truck ran a 13.7 in the cold, and 14.02 in the warm weather. I have them all on video. 2nd, there are no motor options at this time. Reguardless of the which kit the chevy guy was using, it was blown. What kit you choose it your choice. I have bone stock 2wd quad cabs posting 15.1s on video, I have 4x4 quad cabs on video running 15.3/15.4s. These all bone stock here in maryland at cecil dragway. As for the others, there's allot of high 14s on that site that are bone stock. The others are mostly in warmer weather climates.

If you test drove one that that's fine, after it's 5000 mile break in, the truck computer releases more power. Check out all the feedback.

STSturbo is realeasing a kit for the truck in January 2005. It's true, those motors are beasts, I spend allot of time with Hemi777 at the track. It's a real deal and I honestly think it's close to running 11s in the cold but we expect 12.4s here sortly.

You can make anything faster, but more boost on the chevy than we add another 50 shot of nitrous. Hey, chevy has the advantage by far at this point, like I said, there are currently no engine upgrades available.

We are going to be putting on a 125 shot and drop some weight, we are expecting 12.4s depending on traction. Come on out to the track if you are close, we invite everyone to watch to put all that doubt away. I'm not brand loyal as you can see from my sig. I just see so much bs about what those hemi's really can do and once that ststurbo kit comes out, everyone will see just how much power can be obtained from the motor.

Oh, last time I checked, the chevy is the lightest in it's class. Hemi777's truck is 5000 pounds. Besides, you are telling me that a mid 16 second chevy truck with 9-10 psi with intercooler will run mid 12s? I spend allot of time at the track. Tell me another one, of course, I regualar cab, sb maybe possible with a stall and some exhaust work but not just with the blower.

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