Affirmative!

 

STOCK mach 1 m5 vs STOCK ls1 m6 is drivers RACE???? are you guys sure? i thought f-body would pulll after 60mph..

 

Nope..... Drivers race. Check out some of the times those guys over at mach1registry.com are running.

I've personally seen them run low-mid 13s @ 104 - 107 in stock form at our local track. Definitely a driver's race....

 

Its going to come down to a drivers race or a manufacturers error on the particular car. Say the head engineer was hung over as hell and let a motor slip by without being built fully to spec etc.

 

I just checked the registry and there wasn't a single stock Mach that trapped at 107. Most trapped at 101-105.

 

Vs. Mach 1 - close
Mustang GT (94-04) - rape
LT1 F-bodys - rape
350Z -omg tentacle rape
04 GTO -close
5.0 Mustangs -rape (if you can find a stock one)
93-98 Turbo/NA Supra - rape n/a (like 2xx hp :lol), rape from a dig
SRT-4 Neon - rape
RX-7 - rape
RX-8 - rape'd/10
WRX - rape
WRX STi - you'll pull a little, if the drivers is bouncing off the rev limiter before the light turns green beware

 

The reason the 03 cobra wasnt on, was becuase I thought they could beat a stock LS1.. and Im slowly working on my "future" mod list... since its winter ill have enough time to save up... probably just have headers,exhaust,ws6hood and lid before spring and the rest by late summer.... that way if i run into any "modded" cars on the list I wont think twice about racing them. Theres not to many fast cars in Iowa, so running mid to low 12s is good for me.

 

I would have to save the cobra and zo6 are sometimes a drivers race but more often not. Last time I was at the track I actually seen a few running 14's and a lot running mid 13's. I seen 1 in the high 12's. Also a z06 was running low 13's.
A c5 would definetly be a drivers race.
05 gt's are about as bad as the older models.

Just some info on some cars you left off.

 

Read this thread over at ls1.com........ (Fifth post down....96Vobra ) This was the Mach 1 I saw run at Carlsbad Raceway. I saw Jerome run his car 13.4 @ 107 with a crappy 2.2 sixty ft.... His stock time is no longer in the Mach 1 registry 1/4 mile time list, because he is now modded and running different times.....

http://www.ls1.com/forums/showthread...highlight=mach

Here is the thread I posted after I saw him run that day... I had Stage 1 and BFG DR only, posted my times and mentioned I saw a Bone Stock Mach run 13.4 @ 107.....96Vobra (who I saw run that time) responds in the thread......

http://www.ls1.com/forums/showthread...highlight=mach

If you look at their 1/4 mile list over at the registry, several are running 13.0 - 13.5 @ 104-106.9 stock. You also have to keep in mind, of those cars that are in the 10s, 11s, and 12,s, what did they run stock?? Because they have updated times, their stock times are no longer in the 1/4 mi registry. If you also look at the high 12sec Machs, a couple of those guys only have a two or three mods (intake, exhaust, or tires) and are running 12.7 - 12.9.

Heck, even a magazine ran one 13.2 @ 106.7 (we all know mag driver's aren't always the best). This article is about an Auto that ran 13.8 @ 101, but if you read the next to last paragraph on the first page, it reads "We recently tested a Mach 1 five-speed and ran a 13.2 at 106.7."

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...ch1/index.html

107 traps are out there

 

The GTO weighs quite a bit more then a F-body, so you should kill one pretty easily. Be careful of RX-7 and Supras because they can both put down massive power with a few small mods.

 

So your saying that I might have a chance with a stock C5??? well if soo thats cool, I wasnt sure what they ran, I just thought it would be faster then a f-body. So im also safe to say that a ls1 can beat a C4 too.
Oh yeah while we are on the subject of the 05 GTs.... what do u guys think of them... as in 05 vs LS1??? what are they rated at 300??? Dont think ill run into as many of them here than lets say Houston.

(Finally getting my GM WS6 hood... pretty damn happy, now i can start my WS6 conversion)

 

Mach1s don't trap as high as an LS1, but they have a ton of lowend. As far as I know, an LS1 would pull away from one froma roll, but I can't say for sure since I've never seen the two cars race on the highway before (don't know anybodyw ith a Mach1, but seen them run at E-town a million times).

 

At least they are taking away from the number of 16 second imports that are there friday night

 

I race a manual mach all the time. He has about $1000 in mods not quite sure what they all are but that what he said he spent. From dig in the 8th I run about .2 faster than he does pulling the same 60's. I trapped about 4mph faster than he did. From a 40 roll we are pretty close but this is my dead spot. From a 60 roll I pull on him slowly until about 110 and then very quickly. After 130 its like he isnt even moving anymore. It is a very strong car tho. I think will et streets he would be a hell of a run for me.

 

i had a friend with a c5 that ran a 13.8...it was an auto and a vert so im sure that didnt help, but it is possible to outrun one with little or no mods...just depends on driver skill

 

That is what mine runs. My best is 12.73x with those 3 mods. I trap around 108.x to 109.x. the last I looked on the Registry i was like #39 on the list. But there is also alot of Mach's with alot of mods that just ain't that fast for some reason.

 

Nice info.

This automatic-equipped car showed a slight power dip just after the 2-3 shift,
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2-3 shift?

3:55 gears?

I like my 2:73's, "one shift" 1-2 and low 13's @ 105 what's not to like?

 

Alot of the Mach drivers lie about being stock. There numbers just don't add up. The Mach1 that the Mag driver (Name eludes me but is supposed to be very, very good) was only .1 or .2 faster than the GTO. I believe the conditions and track were freaking awesome also. The Mach is great for the 1/8th but the LS-1 will pull after that.