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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 12:19 PM
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That 5.0 if it is a 87-93 model should run 13.30-13.60 depending on traction at 101 to 103 mph with a shortbelt with those mods. I never had a 93-94 f body outrun me back in the day with my 89 hatch LX(when the cars were new) It had 3.73's pullies, exhaust and a shortbelt it ran 13.60-13.70 on plain radial T/A's like clockwork....ahhh those were the days.


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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by FASTFATBOY
That 5.0 if it is a 87-93 model should run 13.30-13.60 depending on traction at 101 to 103 mph with a shortbelt with those mods. I never had a 93-94 f body outrun me back in the day with my 89 hatch LX(when the cars were new) It had 3.73's pullies, exhaust and a shortbelt it ran 13.60-13.70 on plain radial T/A's like clockwork....ahhh those were the days.


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I agree..

at the very least it should be close. Foxes have a HUGE weight advantage over fourth gens. If it's a notchback than it's got a good 500-lb advantage over you.
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 09:03 AM
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5. oh's are junk. Its a shame how much money you have to throw at those cars to get them to keep up with 4th gens. We wont even talk about what LS-1's do to them.
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by lt1maro
5. oh's are junk. Its a shame how much money you have to throw at those cars to get them to keep up with 4th gens. We wont even talk about what LS-1's do to them.
No way! 5.0s are awesome cars. They are crazy cheap to modify (cheaper than even us) and respond to mods very nicely. Hell, if I had the garage space and the time, I would probably pick up a 5.0 for another project.
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by METALBEAST
No way! 5.0s are awesome cars. They are crazy cheap to modify (cheaper than even us) and respond to mods very nicely. Hell, if I had the garage space and the time, I would probably pick up a 5.0 for another project.
Man the number of five oh's ive rolled is inumerable. The only 5.0 i ran into that we stayed completely even was a 5.0 with a gear, a cobra trans, heads, small cam, cobra intake, full bolt ons, and a shot(not sure how much, he wouldnt tell me). You can build anything to be fast but these cars are just sooooo slow from the factory.
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 10:08 AM
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As far as I've seen, 5.0's are like a box of chocolates....you never know what you're gonna get.

Without a good set of heads/cam/intake/exhaust, they don't run that well.
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by lt1maro
Man the number of five oh's ive rolled is inumerable. The only 5.0 i ran into that we stayed completely even was a 5.0 with a gear, a cobra trans, heads, small cam, cobra intake, full bolt ons, and a shot(not sure how much, he wouldnt tell me). You can build anything to be fast but these cars are just sooooo slow from the factory.

Good job, but believe me, you just haven't ran into the right one yet. When I had my 1990 300ZX TT M5 with HKS CAI & CB with gutted cats, I got litterally destroyed by two LX 5.0s. I mean it wasn't even a contest and my 300ZX was a pretty fast car. The aftermarket for the 5.0 is not as big as it is for nothing. Those cars can be made ridiculously fast for ridicoulously cheap.
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by john3daly
As far as I've seen, 5.0's are like a box of chocolates....you never know what you're gonna get.

Without a good set of heads/cam/intake/exhaust, they don't run that well.

How do you figure that? As stated above with 3.73 gear, underdrive pullies, off road pipe and a shortbelt my old 89 LX hatch ran 13.60's@101......with GT-40 heads,cam, ported stock intake, 65mm throttlebody, 4.10 gear, headers, stock THREE OH TWO bottom end@3600 lbs with driver it went 12.70's@107......whats not fast about either of those times? Especially in 1993? A 93/94 LT1 car six speed or auto with the same mods(apulley and a off road pipe they already had a gear) would not touch me, from a roll on, a dead stop was a massacre I would leave them painted to the light. I would go LOOKING for those cars to beat on.

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Old Jan 14, 2005 | 03:32 AM
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im not saying that u cant make these cars fast because anyone from chicago knows how many quick notch-back stangs roam the streets. Im just saying that the ones that i run into are dogs.
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Old Jan 14, 2005 | 03:40 AM
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Well, somewhere in there was about the STOCK 5.0's. IMO, 230hp is weak. When I first got my Imp SS in 94, I was walking over 5.0's if they didn't have alot of bolt on's or more. That's 4200lbs of fast luxury. HAHA, then the 4.6 cam out. WHAT A JOKE!!! I had quite a few bolt ons at the time and would walk away from my neighbors 98 Cobra every morning going to work. Oh would he get pissed...lmao
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Old Jan 14, 2005 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Stang2841
yeah low 200's with not a thing done to it..



its not all about dyno numbers though...


I'm pushing 250rwhp and probably 320tq


but the car without me in it probably weighs around 3000-3050
Based on weight alone you have him...but those LS1 can put the power down but I'm sure your gears will get you a head first. It's just a matter of staying ahead
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Old Jan 14, 2005 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Stang2841
yeah low 200's with not a thing done to it..



its not all about dyno numbers though...


I'm pushing 250rwhp and probably 320tq


but the car without me in it probably weighs around 3000-3050


doubtful, my buddy has the exact same mods as you and he dynoed sumthing like 195 RWHP roughly 2 weeks ago, then again, its a 90k mile vert and he beats on it like no other. Nonetheless, I keep up with him at a 2 cylinder disadvantage fairly easily. Couldn't image what I would do to him in a LT1. I say the LT1 wastes you. Just my .02
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Old Jan 14, 2005 | 11:37 PM
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those are true numbers...


not here to start a pissing match just want to know where my car stands..


195RWHP? thats common for a stock one with bumped timing and removed airbox silencer.. and even then its low


thanks for the people who put in positive input, post up the results later on.

what would a vert have to do where it dyno'd at? and 90k miles is nothing for these engines
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Old Jan 17, 2005 | 05:45 PM
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I think the Stang will win if he is the better driver.. If the LT1 had good tires.. It could be a no chance for the Mustang... Maybe?

Who knows. 5.0s are cool cars buddy! Good luck on modding.

Be glad it isn't a 4.6L. Hell I'm rated at 205HP and I think stock we dyno at ~174RWHP. You people should be more thankful!
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