Raced a Cocky 2005 Mustang GT
02-14-2005, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt SS
What do these people think, that the new GT is FAST! LOL Its an underpowered, ugly PIG! I hate the new design. What is wrong with ford, why they are trying to resurrect an old design that had its time. You didnt see Chevy designing the C6 to look like a C3??
I was never impressed with ford motors. They just cannot build a fast N/A motor. The 2000 Cobra R was there best try and the 01 Z06 still tosted it and for less money. I said it once and ill say it again Mustangs are nothing with out a S/C!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was never impressed with ford motors. They just cannot build a fast N/A motor. The 2000 Cobra R was there best try and the 01 Z06 still tosted it and for less money. I said it once and ill say it again Mustangs are nothing with out a S/C!!!!!!!!!!!!
and your point is??? What's this got to do with this thread and an *** whoopin' handed to a cocky GT owner?
02-14-2005, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt SS
What do these people think, that the new GT is FAST! LOL Its an underpowered, ugly PIG! I hate the new design. What is wrong with ford, why they are trying to resurrect an old design that had its time. You didnt see Chevy designing the C6 to look like a C3??
I was never impressed with ford motors. They just cannot build a fast N/A motor. The 2000 Cobra R was there best try and the 01 Z06 still tosted it and for less money. I said it once and ill say it again Mustangs are nothing with out a S/C!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was never impressed with ford motors. They just cannot build a fast N/A motor. The 2000 Cobra R was there best try and the 01 Z06 still tosted it and for less money. I said it once and ill say it again Mustangs are nothing with out a S/C!!!!!!!!!!!!
02-14-2005, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt SS
What do these people think, that the new GT is FAST! LOL Its an underpowered, ugly PIG! I hate the new design. What is wrong with ford, why they are trying to resurrect an old design that had its time. You didnt see Chevy designing the C6 to look like a C3??
I watched a documentary on the designing of the C6, and keeping it looking like a corvette so they can sell to the corvette faithful is #2 on their list of concerns behind performance. They talk about the ideas and concepts taken from past corvettes to be used in the c6.
Originally Posted by Matt SS
I said it once and ill say it again Mustangs are nothing with out a S/C!!!!!!!!!!!!
Stop being retarded. A fast car is a fast car.
02-14-2005, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by unit213
You're a moron. Plain and simple.
I just dont' understand people who don't seem to fathom the idea that loving one type of car (or even a car company) does not require bashing other cars and other car companies.
If he wanted to say that... I dunno, hundai makes slow ****... well then ok. But Ford has some badass stuff. So does dodge/chrysler. Nissan, mitsubishi, and honda have.. um... good starts.
You know something I've never seen... ever... is a GM guy talking about how "ford engines arn't **** without a supercharger" respond to me when I say "well, would you say the grand national ain't **** without a turbo?" There always seems to be silence after that...
02-14-2005, 06:50 PM
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Yeah, and our fbodies weren't really anything to write home about until we got the LT1 and weren't hot **** till the LS1. The L98 sure wasn't setting the world on fire. Don't even talk about the 305s... DOGS.
Yeah, and our fbodies weren't really anything to write home about until we got the LT1 and weren't hot **** till the LS1. The L98 sure wasn't setting the world on fire. Don't even talk about the 305s... DOGS.
And the TTA was pretty badass IMHO.
02-14-2005, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Skarecrow
Yeah if I'd bothered reading all 3 pages I'd have noticed other people pointed out his stupidity before me.
I just dont' understand people who don't seem to fathom the idea that loving one type of car (or even a car company) does not require bashing other cars and other car companies.
If he wanted to say that... I dunno, hundai makes slow ****... well then ok. But Ford has some badass stuff. So does dodge/chrysler. Nissan, mitsubishi, and honda have.. um... good starts.
You know something I've never seen... ever... is a GM guy talking about how "ford engines arn't **** without a supercharger" respond to me when I say "well, would you say the grand national ain't **** without a turbo?" There always seems to be silence after that...
I just dont' understand people who don't seem to fathom the idea that loving one type of car (or even a car company) does not require bashing other cars and other car companies.
If he wanted to say that... I dunno, hundai makes slow ****... well then ok. But Ford has some badass stuff. So does dodge/chrysler. Nissan, mitsubishi, and honda have.. um... good starts.
You know something I've never seen... ever... is a GM guy talking about how "ford engines arn't **** without a supercharger" respond to me when I say "well, would you say the grand national ain't **** without a turbo?" There always seems to be silence after that...
Ford (and GM) are in the business of selling cars. They do what they feel is necessary to move their product. Customer demand on Mustangs is through the roof. I see no reason for them to change anything.
GM decided to go a different route. It happens to be a good route for us since they are producing big horsepower cars. The bottom line is the same however. It's all about $$$. Believe it. Accept it. Get over it.
02-14-2005, 07:39 PM
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I agree with you Unit, you could turn the argument around and say.."why was there a twenty year gap between good F/I engines at GM (GNX..the new STS-V looks like it will be good..and I do not think the blown 3.8's count personally)."
The Cobra R was a pretty damn good N/A engine just for the record.
The Cobra R was a pretty damn good N/A engine just for the record.
02-14-2005, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Gloveperson
The Cobra R was a pretty damn good N/A engine just for the record.
People should be happy when one automaker sets the bar higher because the rest will either follow suit or top it...which means more power for us!
02-16-2005, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Skarecrow
If you don't see the c3 and c4 (As well as c5, obviously) influences in the c6, then you're not looking hard enough. the rear third of the car SCREAMS c3.
I watched a documentary on the designing of the C6, and keeping it looking like a corvette so they can sell to the corvette faithful is #2 on their list of concerns behind performance. They talk about the ideas and concepts taken from past corvettes to be used in the c6.
Yeah, and our fbodies weren't really anything to write home about until we got the LT1 and weren't hot **** till the LS1. The L98 sure wasn't setting the world on fire. Don't even talk about the 305s... DOGS.
Stop being retarded. A fast car is a fast car.
I watched a documentary on the designing of the C6, and keeping it looking like a corvette so they can sell to the corvette faithful is #2 on their list of concerns behind performance. They talk about the ideas and concepts taken from past corvettes to be used in the c6.
Yeah, and our fbodies weren't really anything to write home about until we got the LT1 and weren't hot **** till the LS1. The L98 sure wasn't setting the world on fire. Don't even talk about the 305s... DOGS.
Stop being retarded. A fast car is a fast car.
I think from 1993 to 2002 is a pretty good term of domination by GM. With the powerful LT1 and LS1. Yes i admit whole heartedly that the 03/04 Terminators will woop my A$$ and all other STOCK LS1's. But as far as the New GT is concerned the speed of it doesnt impress me.
02-16-2005, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Matt SS
What do these people think, that the new GT is FAST! LOL Its an underpowered, ugly PIG! I hate the new design. What is wrong with ford, why they are trying to resurrect an old design that had its time. You didnt see Chevy designing the C6 to look like a C3??
I was never impressed with ford motors. They just cannot build a fast N/A motor. The 2000 Cobra R was there best try and the 01 Z06 still tosted it and for less money. I said it once and ill say it again Mustangs are nothing with out a S/C!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was never impressed with ford motors. They just cannot build a fast N/A motor. The 2000 Cobra R was there best try and the 01 Z06 still tosted it and for less money. I said it once and ill say it again Mustangs are nothing with out a S/C!!!!!!!!!!!!
it was that part.
EDIT: as to your asking what you said that was wrong.
02-16-2005, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by unit213
What I find funny is that people actually believe that Ford Motor, one of the biggerst auto makers (and companies) in the world, CAN'T make...not choose...but CAN'T make a fast N/A car. Can people really be that stupid? Do those people think that Ford doesn't have the money, the knowledge, the experienced engineers, desingers, etc. to make a powerful/fast N/A car? Is it that they CAN'T or they don't CHOOSE to.
Ford (and GM) are in the business of selling cars. They do what they feel is necessary to move their product. Customer demand on Mustangs is through the roof. I see no reason for them to change anything.
GM decided to go a different route. It happens to be a good route for us since they are producing big horsepower cars. The bottom line is the same however. It's all about $$$. Believe it. Accept it. Get over it.
Ford (and GM) are in the business of selling cars. They do what they feel is necessary to move their product. Customer demand on Mustangs is through the roof. I see no reason for them to change anything.
GM decided to go a different route. It happens to be a good route for us since they are producing big horsepower cars. The bottom line is the same however. It's all about $$$. Believe it. Accept it. Get over it.
Well this response i pretty much what i expected from a TERMINATOR owner. But insulting me wont get you anywhere. Yes i do agree with you that it is all about the money, but if ford had all the TECH to make a fast N/A, then why didnt they? BC it would be too much money??? FACE it ford copped out on improving there MODUALAR motor and just slapped on a S/C. A smart move but a cop out in my book. Where GM set fourth to design a truly REMARKABLE next gen engine the ls2 and LS7, which both got honors in HOTROD Magizine. Im sorry if i offended your high and mighty opinon of your wonderful fords. But keep in mind that this is a GM web site and i am a GM owner.
02-16-2005, 12:27 PM
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I still for one feel like a "fair" race with a S/C Cobra would be to throw on a supercharger on my TA and then see what happens. I know the outcomes of me racing a few newer GT's and Mach's here where I live and the Mach's impress me but I have only raced 1 Mach and probably a dozen of GT's in the past year. The Mach race was close, went to about the top of third gear and had him at my bumper. I feel like the Mach was a better representation of a worthy effort from Ford rather than throwing on a supercharger. I still cringe to this day when a cobra owner calls his supercharged ride "stock" just because it roll off the factory that way. I swear i'm about to put my money into a supercharger and tell everyone I'm stock too
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Originally Posted by Matt SS
What do these people think, that the new GT is FAST! LOL Its an underpowered, ugly PIG! I hate the new design. What is wrong with ford, why they are trying to resurrect an old design that had its time. You didnt see Chevy designing the C6 to look like a C3??
I was never impressed with ford motors. They just cannot build a fast N/A motor. The 2000 Cobra R was there best try and the 01 Z06 still tosted it and for less money. I said it once and ill say it again Mustangs are nothing with out a S/C!!!!!!!!!!!!
What do these people think, that the new GT is FAST! LOL Its an underpowered, ugly PIG! I hate the new design. What is wrong with ford, why they are trying to resurrect an old design that had its time. You didnt see Chevy designing the C6 to look like a C3??
I was never impressed with ford motors. They just cannot build a fast N/A motor. The 2000 Cobra R was there best try and the 01 Z06 still tosted it and for less money. I said it once and ill say it again Mustangs are nothing with out a S/C!!!!!!!!!!!!
EDIT: as to your asking what you said that was wrong.
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Originally Posted by Matt SS
Im sorry if i offended your high and mighty opinon of your wonderful fords. But keep in mind that this is a GM web site and i am a GM owner.
Sometimes we get out of line, sometimes we dont. But the point is that this site ultimately revolves around the fascination with, and modding of fast cars, not the high horse values that you are supporting in a statement like that.
And if one more person calls me Dr. Phil they're getting a rubber mallet to the head!
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Originally Posted by Matt SS
Im sorry if i offended your high and mighty opinon of your wonderful fords. But keep in mind that this is a GM web site and i am a GM owner.
Originally Posted by mc01ta
I still cringe to this day when a cobra owner calls his supercharged ride "stock" just because it roll off the factory that way. I swear i'm about to put my money into a supercharger and tell everyone I'm stock too
sheesh.
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yes i'm stubborn on my opinion, no i'm not a ricer, where i'm from you'd get decked for calling me that, and yes i'm an LS1 owner for 2 years. Just my opinion, I respect yours too, but again, no ricer here. I have a ricer roomate if that counts, all he does is talk about Subaru's and how fast they are compared to my 01 Trans Am and Cobras, the like. Best part is he doesn't even own the car yet, thats bonafide ricer. He does have a remote control ricer car and a couple of matchbox cars that are ricer cars.
ps. I have the same issue with the GN as I do the Cobra, it has nothing to do with the fact that its a ford. I think i'm close to going FI and calling myself stock, seriously, its a matter of opinion.
ps. I have the same issue with the GN as I do the Cobra, it has nothing to do with the fact that its a ford. I think i'm close to going FI and calling myself stock, seriously, its a matter of opinion.