QUIKAG

I knew we could all get along. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[chug]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_chug.gif" />

vtechatch

<img src="http://ericksracing.com/images/atco1.jpg" alt=" - " />

Here is a page with all the specs on this Civic COUPE and all its records and acheivements

http://ericksracing.com/racecar.htm

This car has NO VTEC <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

sited12

Hello its a full chassis car. IT weighs 1600 with driver. When prostock lets off and runs 8s is anyone impressed. No. So when this guy runs a 10.2 who cares. Put a crate 350, yes one of those that only makes 230 HP and you can run single digets. I agree with RPM. And to the response after RPM said that there are plenty of 10 second cars on this board. And was responded with a are you one. Im not one but i will race you.

Robjta

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah, have to love GM for killing off the F-body, huh? Honda still has it's Civic going strong for some reason. I don't deny that Honda and Chevrolet has different priorities for their Civic and Camaro respectively, but one of the cars is still in business.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">hehe, the sotp making them cause everyone stopped buying vettes cause the "half the price" Fbodies were smoking them on the streets

Robjta

Lmao id like to see him take his girl on a date to a movie and dinner in that 10 sec Honda. Theres quite a few full interior daily driven 10sec 1/4 mile cars. And N/A btw. One that comes to mind is Jordan Musser (10 sec 1/4 daily driver).

vtechatch

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by RPM WS6:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by vtechatch:
<strong> Anytime someone posts a domestic video on a Honda board everyone just looks at it and says. . . cool </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I've been around these automotive message boards for a few years now, and I can say that I know this to be untrue. I've seen links to domestic story/vid posts on import boards that have been received in less than a civil manner.

vtechatch... I could understand you getting upset in your other thread in this forum where many people said many "not nice" things to you, doubted you, and just generally dissed you in just about every way. With that, you didn't get very upset at all. You kept your cool and talked it out. Now, you start this tread of a car that isn't even yours (as far as we all know), and get all upset when everyone doesn't love it??? I don't get that. Hell, I was even one of the people that tried to be civil with you in the other thread; I even gave you some advice about racing aganist LS1s on the street and such... </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Whoa Whoa Stop,If I said anything that "dissed" you I am sorry.I think your a pretty cool and smart dude.
Every single word I have writen was writen with a smile.It really is your decision to not like the Honda.Ill be honest with you,I havent seen a Honda that I did like in months and I put 250-300 miles under my belt for work every day.I kinda like mine except for the color that attracts police when I am not even doing anything wrong <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> .
I used to have a Gn and I have had cops say "Nicer car what does it run",or Hey what are you doing with that race car on the street with a smile.One cop in NH wanted to race my Gn with his Cherokee.But in my Honda cops will turn around on one lane roads and follow me until they decide to pull me over for stupid things.A couple of weeks ago a cop was trying to pull me over and I ignored him for about 5 minutes on a one lane road in NJ with no lights and when I finally stopped he was sweating and all crazy and gave me a ticket for no rear view mirror(The excuse for not seeing him.And thats it.I want a 87-92 Camaro 5.7 or Formula 350,an 87-93 Stang or a 93-97 Trans Am or Camaro Z28.
Rambling. . .

hondakiller

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by vtechatch:
<strong> <img src="http://ericksracing.com/images/atco1.jpg" alt=" - " />

Here is a page with all the specs on this Civic COUPE and all its records and acheivements

http://ericksracing.com/racecar.htm

This car has NO VTEC <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">VTEC is a liability on high rpm race motors because of the added valvetrain weight but nice try. just because i (we) dont like them doesnt mean we dont know about them <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_images/icons/tongue.gif" />

QUIKAG

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">hehe, the sotp making them cause everyone stopped buying vettes cause the "half the price" Fbodies were smoking them on the streets </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Right, that is why Chevrolet has sold every single one of the C5's they've made. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

Racehead

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by QUIKAG:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">hehe, the sotp making them cause everyone stopped buying vettes cause the "half the price" Fbodies were smoking them on the streets </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Right, that is why Chevrolet has sold every single one of the C5's they've made. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Exactly, and GM couldn't have the f-bodys smoking the C5's everyday ... so they quit making them, since this was the only way to keep it from happening ! j/k !

AlienDroid

small block v8 cars have run 7s NA in light weight domestic drag only striped out carbon fiber cars. I'm not surprised you can run a 10 all motor in a civic. Maybe I should tape John force running the 1/4 mile and post it up on your civic forum. How about that. but wait, shouldn't that civic have a v6 in it?

lbz34

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As I build both import and domestic, you are due congratulations (or the driver/builder). The import road is a long, hard, costly one. Much more challenging then the v8 one. Nice.

Sean

MarineBlue03GMC

well I have 93 civic hatch also, along with my 03 sierra. I actually bought the sierra to act as my daily driver and tow vehicle.

Anyway I just thought I would drop a mention about my ride. I have the utmost respect for fbodies, and of course ANY LS1 based vehicle, especially the Z06 MY DREAM CAR!
However...my civic, with all the work I have done is a very capable drag race or street vehicle.

My engine is a fully built 1.6 liter turbo charged SOHC VTEC. Its a 10 second engine capable of over 500hp. I can run up to 27psi on it. Low 11's no problem, but I with a little weight loss I should be able to pull 10's. The big power maker is the XS Turbonetic ball bearing T04x turbo, front mount intercooler and Accel Digital Fuel injection system (DFI).


DFI is just about the greatest thing for a drag car. It comes with a whole stand alone laptop programable ECU, new fuel injector harness, new 3 bar map sensor, IAT and Coolant temp sensors, etc. DFI gives you control over the whole fuel map, ignition timing, nitrous systems, VTEC, and just about ANYTHING else. It actually is PERFECT for just about any domestic and I think even can be equipped with a no cutting/plug in harness for Chevy's. Since I got my DFI I run 550cc injectors, 18psi of boost on 92 octane, ALL day long with NO detonation or ANY other problems.
On almost any unmodified engine DFI will result in at least a 20-40hp gain. Of course its not really smog legal and could be tricky to get passed BUT it is possible.
Sorry to sound like a DFI salesman but its probably the best mod I made on my car.

Im not trying to knock anyones rides, just mentioning how capable a honda is. I also though I would let everyone know about how serious an Accel DFI system can be for making power.

heres a link to my webpage (which hasnt been updated in YEARS) http://home.earthlink.net/~akuma/cars.htm

Oh to the guy with the civic hatch, nice color <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

unit213

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by MarineBlue03GMC:
<strong> http://home.earthlink.net/~akuma/cars.htm
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">"Thermal Research and Development 3" stainless steel muffler with 4" Thermal R&D shorty tip"

aka...fart canon. <img border="0" alt="[jester]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" />

ShOeBoX

Pretty sad how a lot of you guys came down on RPM on this topic on a domestic board of all places. If this thread was on an import BB I could understand the hassling, but on a domestic board?? <img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" />

As for my .2 on the topic, 10's N/A, in a honda is impressive. But then again, you can make a 1600 full chasis car fast with just about any motor. Also when the day is over, your still in aCivic <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> . Also if you honda guys wanna argue about well "we can go this fast with a 4 cylinder" do you wanna discuss how often these high powered honda motors are apart from breakage?? I didn't think so. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_images/icons/tongue.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[evil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" />

Fly By

This is Just DUMB!!

That honda is bad ***. PERIOD. 10,500 shift points, 1500 splits between gears, launching at 8500 rpms <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />

What was the slip for that run? 60, 1/8 et and mph....

notice its only got 290 hp at the crank <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

Thats a 100 less than a bolt on LS1 car <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_images/icons/tongue.gif" />

Give credit where credit is due...10.2s@ almost 130 <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

25psi

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by ShOeBoX:

in aCivic <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> . Also if you honda guys wanna argue about well "we can go this fast with a 4 cylinder" do you wanna discuss how often these high powered honda motors are apart from breakage?? I didn't think so. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_images/icons/tongue.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[evil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" /> [/QB]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">What are you talking? First of all, I don't think honda would have surppased the domestic market in performance over the last decade are so with parts on the verge of breaking.

Secondly, if you have a four cylinder THERE ARE LESS ROTATING PARTS therefore less inertia and this my friend equates to higher revs and fewer breaking parts.

Are you this close minded to actually believe they can't make as much power as a v8. I guarantee you I push just as much power in my turbocharged four cylinder than you do in you 8, on my stock block. (and no it's not a honda)

If you also want to talk about breakage? This guy came into my friends shop with a 2001 Z06 asking to see what the problem with his motor was. My friend has actually performed work on this car before, minor bolt on's and a 100 shot of dope. Went to the track ran two times then the motor blew. C'mon what kind of reliability is that . Can't even make 500 on a stock block witout breaking. There are plenty of imports, that can make that w/out opening the motor.

Bob Norwood the famous tuner in Dallas mostly does turbo kits for Ferraries, Porsches and other exotics, has delt with many mr2,supras,300zx and other imports and he will tell you these cars are much more reliable when it comes to making high hp.

If you want to make a car go fast and handle, please don't buy a 3500-4000lb car. This is why you need a big *** motor to compensate for the weight.

96SCTA

wow there is alot of <img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" /> in this post. All i have to say is that if you realy think that you can make one of those little inport motors put out around 500hp with out opening the motor, your on crack, Well shure you may put your little turbos on and NOS but its only a matter of time before that motor goes BOOM. I have lots of friends that have imports and all of those guys who are making any type of real power(400+) HAVE ALL AND I REPEAT ALL HAD THERE MOTORS APART TO FIX THEM. And then to strengthen them so they dont brake again. So take your <img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" /> and go back to the import bds and tell them how good your little motor is. BECASUE we here in LS1/LT1 world know what real power is and what good reliability is.
And if you want to race an import like the ones your talking about i will be more than happy to race you with a simualar set up. I have a shoping car that i am going to strap a dremel on for the motor. Once that is done im going to add a hair dryer for the forced induction. Then you can race that. HOWS THAT SOUND YOUR IMPORTS ARE <img border="0" alt="[rainbow]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_rainbow.gif" />

RPM WS6

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Wow. I see that I’m gonna have to get re-involved in this one. I thought it was over. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="gr_sad.gif" />

First off...Shoebox...thanks for the support <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> I knew some others would see my point <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

Now on to the renewed debate...

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">What are you talking? First of all, I don't think honda would have surppased the domestic market in performance over the last decade are so with parts on the verge of breaking.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Huh??? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> Surpassed? You wanna explain this one a little better? I disagree 100% with this.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Secondly, if you have a four cylinder THERE ARE LESS ROTATING PARTS therefore less inertia and this my friend equates to higher revs and fewer breaking parts.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">A smaller motor also equals smaller parts which are not as strong. Same with drivetrain parts. Sorry, but it’s all relative.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Are you this close minded to actually believe they can't make as much power as a v8. I guarantee you I push just as much power in my turbocharged four cylinder than you do in you 8, on my stock block. (and no it's not a honda)</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">If I’m not mistaken, Shoebox doesn’t have a V8 either. Try a turbo 6??? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">If you also want to talk about breakage? This guy came into my friends shop with a 2001 Z06 asking to see what the problem with his motor was. My friend has actually performed work on this car before, minor bolt on's and a 100 shot of dope. Went to the track ran two times then the motor blew. C'mon what kind of reliability is that . Can't even make 500 on a stock block witout breaking. There are plenty of imports, that can make that w/out opening the motor.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hate to tell ya this, but that could have very well been improper N2O use, tuning, or setup. I’ve seen a STOCK LS1 shortblock take OVER 510 rear-wheel horsepower in an AUTOMATIC (read: more drivetrain loss for auto than manual ZO6 car) LS1 car for MANY passes without an issue...and under boost at that.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Bob Norwood the famous tuner in Dallas mostly does turbo kits for Ferraries, Porsches and other exotics, has delt with many mr2,supras,300zx and other imports and he will tell you these cars are much more reliable when it comes to making high hp.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">What the hell do Supras or 300ZXs (I assuming you mean TT cars here) and their capabilities have to do with Hondas? Compare stock turbo motors to stock turbo motors. I’m sure Shoebox can fill in here <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">If you want to make a car go fast and handle, please don't buy a 3500-4000lb car. This is why you need a big *** motor to compensate for the weight.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">What’s wrong with a big *** motor? I think they’re a lot more fun. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> I don’t see any stock Hondas running 13s around here. Plenty of stock 3500+ pound “big ***” V8 doing it though, with full warranties to boot.

hondakiller

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 25psi:
<strong> What are you talking? First of all, I don't think honda would have surppased the domestic market in performance over the last decade are so with parts on the verge of breaking.

</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[jester]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[jester]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" />

i guess i missed the part where hondas ran 4's with FI and 5's on motor. besides the fastest import is a volkswagon PUSHROD 4 cylinder. DOHC ppphhhh.

cantdrv65

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Guys, having a conversation with 25psi <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> , is like trying to teach your dog to **** and walk at the same time....