93lt1vs C5 Corvette
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Originally Posted by KCamaro
So your maybe 300 at the ground? I could see it happening if there was driver error on the vette's behalf.
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Originally Posted by darrensls1formula
No car is unbeatable. Not even a LT1. But when someone claims to beat a car that is clearly faster then thiers your going to get people asking questions. That isn't ****. That's human nature.
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Originally Posted by Casperws6
thank you for making my point clearer. no car is unbeatable. driver has a lot to do with it, thats why they say, anything can happen on the street. lets have some common sense.
There was a thread started by a guy who owned a LT1. His car was an auto with exhaust, torque converter and drag radials. His own sig showed a best track time of 13.1 @ 102 on a 1.7 60'. Now he claimed to race an A4 LS1 with intake and exhaust from 25-100 and pull a train on him. I mean according to him it was ugly.
So here come all the LT1 guys saying "good kill" or "way to put that LS1 in his place". Not one of them bothered to look at the race and see the problem. Auto LS1's with intake and exhaust easily traps 104-107 so how the hell does a 102 trapping LT1 pull a train on a LS1 that traps 3-5 mph more then him in an automatic that was NOT in a dead spot?
You can't say driver error. Any monkey can push an accelerator to the floor and hold it. You can't say his bolt-on LT1 is a "freak" because 102 trap is by no means a freak. You can't say he killed him on the launch because it was from a 25 mph roll. Only three things would make this particular story even remotely possible.
1). Mechanical problems.
2). He wasn't racing and the LT1 guy was too stupid to realise it.
3). He's lying.
Sometimes upsets happen. Sometimes the faster car loses. That's fine but be realistic and admit when you got lucky. If I beat a 03 Cobra or Z06 right now I would consider myself damn lucky and admit the guy had problems.
So yes. Please. Lets use common sense.
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cmon, a 93lt1 with minor bolt ons walks a c5 vette that had the lead 
i know alot of things happen during a street race but please.
i've raced lt1's in my 92 z28 and knock off quite a few until about 80-90, i have never been able to hang with a stock c5 vette, i mean its ugly, they jump me right out of the hole. thats why i say
i know alot of things happen during a street race but please.i've raced lt1's in my 92 z28 and knock off quite a few until about 80-90, i have never been able to hang with a stock c5 vette, i mean its ugly, they jump me right out of the hole. thats why i say
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Originally Posted by 01SSDRVR
The street racing fourm is the downfall to this website. Just think, 20 years ago the wonderful fairy tale world that is the internet, did not even exist.
Ten years ago, unless ya count BBS's.
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Originally Posted by darrensls1formula
I agree. But common sense is a two way street. Here is an example of what I mean by that,
There was a thread started by a guy who owned a LT1. His car was an auto with exhaust, torque converter and drag radials. His own sig showed a best track time of 13.1 @ 102 on a 1.7 60'. Now he claimed to race an A4 LS1 with intake and exhaust from 25-100 and pull a train on him. I mean according to him it was ugly.
So here come all the LT1 guys saying "good kill" or "way to put that LS1 in his place". Not one of them bothered to look at the race and see the problem. Auto LS1's with intake and exhaust easily traps 104-107 so how the hell does a 102 trapping LT1 pull a train on a LS1 that traps 3-5 mph more then him in an automatic that was NOT in a dead spot?
You can't say driver error. Any monkey can push an accelerator to the floor and hold it. You can't say his bolt-on LT1 is a "freak" because 102 trap is by no means a freak. You can't say he killed him on the launch because it was from a 25 mph roll. Only three things would make this particular story even remotely possible.
1). Mechanical problems.
2). He wasn't racing and the LT1 guy was too stupid to realise it.
3). He's lying.
Sometimes upsets happen. Sometimes the faster car loses. That's fine but be realistic and admit when you got lucky. If I beat a 03 Cobra or Z06 right now I would consider myself damn lucky and admit the guy had problems.
So yes. Please. Lets use common sense.
There was a thread started by a guy who owned a LT1. His car was an auto with exhaust, torque converter and drag radials. His own sig showed a best track time of 13.1 @ 102 on a 1.7 60'. Now he claimed to race an A4 LS1 with intake and exhaust from 25-100 and pull a train on him. I mean according to him it was ugly.
So here come all the LT1 guys saying "good kill" or "way to put that LS1 in his place". Not one of them bothered to look at the race and see the problem. Auto LS1's with intake and exhaust easily traps 104-107 so how the hell does a 102 trapping LT1 pull a train on a LS1 that traps 3-5 mph more then him in an automatic that was NOT in a dead spot?
You can't say driver error. Any monkey can push an accelerator to the floor and hold it. You can't say his bolt-on LT1 is a "freak" because 102 trap is by no means a freak. You can't say he killed him on the launch because it was from a 25 mph roll. Only three things would make this particular story even remotely possible.
1). Mechanical problems.
2). He wasn't racing and the LT1 guy was too stupid to realise it.
3). He's lying.
Sometimes upsets happen. Sometimes the faster car loses. That's fine but be realistic and admit when you got lucky. If I beat a 03 Cobra or Z06 right now I would consider myself damn lucky and admit the guy had problems.
So yes. Please. Lets use common sense.
Back when I had my Z28, my friend in his near-stock 98 Mustang GT (catback only) smoked me from a stoplight. Granted he only beat me one time, and I slaughtered him probably over 20 other times (he's one of my best friends), but I think this proves the following point:
Anything is possible on the street.
Either you don't street race often, or you're stupid, because it's as possible than an LT1 F-Body pulled an LS1 'Vette as it is that an LS1 F-Body pulled an '03-'04 Cobra. He may have exagerrated, and while the kill is tough to believe, who knows? Give him the benefit of the doubt.
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Originally Posted by darrensls1formula
I agree. But common sense is a two way street. Here is an example of what I mean by that,
There was a thread started by a guy who owned a LT1. His car was an auto with exhaust, torque converter and drag radials. His own sig showed a best track time of 13.1 @ 102 on a 1.7 60'. Now he claimed to race an A4 LS1 with intake and exhaust from 25-100 and pull a train on him. I mean according to him it was ugly.
So here come all the LT1 guys saying "good kill" or "way to put that LS1 in his place". Not one of them bothered to look at the race and see the problem. Auto LS1's with intake and exhaust easily traps 104-107 so how the hell does a 102 trapping LT1 pull a train on a LS1 that traps 3-5 mph more then him in an automatic that was NOT in a dead spot?
You can't say driver error. Any monkey can push an accelerator to the floor and hold it. You can't say his bolt-on LT1 is a "freak" because 102 trap is by no means a freak. You can't say he killed him on the launch because it was from a 25 mph roll. Only three things would make this particular story even remotely possible.
1). Mechanical problems.
2). He wasn't racing and the LT1 guy was too stupid to realise it.
3). He's lying.
Sometimes upsets happen. Sometimes the faster car loses. That's fine but be realistic and admit when you got lucky. If I beat a 03 Cobra or Z06 right now I would consider myself damn lucky and admit the guy had problems.
So yes. Please. Lets use common sense.
There was a thread started by a guy who owned a LT1. His car was an auto with exhaust, torque converter and drag radials. His own sig showed a best track time of 13.1 @ 102 on a 1.7 60'. Now he claimed to race an A4 LS1 with intake and exhaust from 25-100 and pull a train on him. I mean according to him it was ugly.
So here come all the LT1 guys saying "good kill" or "way to put that LS1 in his place". Not one of them bothered to look at the race and see the problem. Auto LS1's with intake and exhaust easily traps 104-107 so how the hell does a 102 trapping LT1 pull a train on a LS1 that traps 3-5 mph more then him in an automatic that was NOT in a dead spot?
You can't say driver error. Any monkey can push an accelerator to the floor and hold it. You can't say his bolt-on LT1 is a "freak" because 102 trap is by no means a freak. You can't say he killed him on the launch because it was from a 25 mph roll. Only three things would make this particular story even remotely possible.
1). Mechanical problems.
2). He wasn't racing and the LT1 guy was too stupid to realise it.
3). He's lying.
Sometimes upsets happen. Sometimes the faster car loses. That's fine but be realistic and admit when you got lucky. If I beat a 03 Cobra or Z06 right now I would consider myself damn lucky and admit the guy had problems.
So yes. Please. Lets use common sense.
i raced a 540 rwhp cobra from a dead stop. he was a stick, a vert, and i put down close to 400 rwhp. now, i beat him probably by about 1 - 1.5 car lengths. in theory,i should've got my *** kicked. but i didn't. another reason why anything can happen on the street. i have a vid of my vs the cobra, just can't upload it.
sorry didn't mean to hi jack, just trying to prove a point
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Originally Posted by darrensls1formula
I agree. But common sense is a two way street. Here is an example of what I mean by that,
There was a thread started by a guy who owned a LT1. His car was an auto with exhaust, torque converter and drag radials. His own sig showed a best track time of 13.1 @ 102 on a 1.7 60'. Now he claimed to race an A4 LS1 with intake and exhaust from 25-100 and pull a train on him. I mean according to him it was ugly.
So here come all the LT1 guys saying "good kill" or "way to put that LS1 in his place". Not one of them bothered to look at the race and see the problem. Auto LS1's with intake and exhaust easily traps 104-107 so how the hell does a 102 trapping LT1 pull a train on a LS1 that traps 3-5 mph more then him in an automatic that was NOT in a dead spot?
You can't say driver error. Any monkey can push an accelerator to the floor and hold it. You can't say his bolt-on LT1 is a "freak" because 102 trap is by no means a freak. You can't say he killed him on the launch because it was from a 25 mph roll. Only three things would make this particular story even remotely possible.
1). Mechanical problems.
2). He wasn't racing and the LT1 guy was too stupid to realise it.
3). He's lying.
Sometimes upsets happen. Sometimes the faster car loses. That's fine but be realistic and admit when you got lucky. If I beat a 03 Cobra or Z06 right now I would consider myself damn lucky and admit the guy had problems.
So yes. Please. Lets use common sense.
There was a thread started by a guy who owned a LT1. His car was an auto with exhaust, torque converter and drag radials. His own sig showed a best track time of 13.1 @ 102 on a 1.7 60'. Now he claimed to race an A4 LS1 with intake and exhaust from 25-100 and pull a train on him. I mean according to him it was ugly.
So here come all the LT1 guys saying "good kill" or "way to put that LS1 in his place". Not one of them bothered to look at the race and see the problem. Auto LS1's with intake and exhaust easily traps 104-107 so how the hell does a 102 trapping LT1 pull a train on a LS1 that traps 3-5 mph more then him in an automatic that was NOT in a dead spot?
You can't say driver error. Any monkey can push an accelerator to the floor and hold it. You can't say his bolt-on LT1 is a "freak" because 102 trap is by no means a freak. You can't say he killed him on the launch because it was from a 25 mph roll. Only three things would make this particular story even remotely possible.
1). Mechanical problems.
2). He wasn't racing and the LT1 guy was too stupid to realise it.
3). He's lying.
Sometimes upsets happen. Sometimes the faster car loses. That's fine but be realistic and admit when you got lucky. If I beat a 03 Cobra or Z06 right now I would consider myself damn lucky and admit the guy had problems.
So yes. Please. Lets use common sense.
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Originally Posted by Casperws6
ok thats a nice example, considering the example you used contained 1/4 mile times and trap speeds. but this specific race doesn't. therefore you don't have evidence to back up your claim. let me give you a personal example.
i raced a 540 rwhp cobra from a dead stop. he was a stick, a vert, and i put down close to 400 rwhp. now, i beat him probably by about 1 - 1.5 car lengths. in theory,i should've got my *** kicked. but i didn't. another reason why anything can happen on the street. i have a vid of my vs the cobra, just can't upload it.
sorry didn't mean to hi jack, just trying to prove a point
i raced a 540 rwhp cobra from a dead stop. he was a stick, a vert, and i put down close to 400 rwhp. now, i beat him probably by about 1 - 1.5 car lengths. in theory,i should've got my *** kicked. but i didn't. another reason why anything can happen on the street. i have a vid of my vs the cobra, just can't upload it.
sorry didn't mean to hi jack, just trying to prove a point
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ok so i didnt know i was going to get a two page reaction out of this story....but yes it did happen...for the unbelievers ..i dont care....and i was not posting it b/c to talk **** about LS1's it was just for the hell of it. The vette was a stick i could tell by the way i jumped on him after the launch..he went..then shifted ...thats where i jumped on him...i know that he should have beat me and thats why i was not going to even try and race him from the beginngin. I have raceed other C5's pm the freeway and gotton smoked its all about the car what he has in it and how he drives it too. ...but it is street racing and **** happens like casper said....i mean things go bad or he could have mishifted, or something but a kill was a kill we gave each other thumbs up after and it was all koo....and yes it happened in San JOse CA.
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Originally Posted by Casperws6
ok thats a nice example, considering the example you used contained 1/4 mile times and trap speeds. but this specific race doesn't. therefore you don't have evidence to back up your claim. let me give you a personal example.
i raced a 540 rwhp cobra from a dead stop. he was a stick, a vert, and i put down close to 400 rwhp. now, i beat him probably by about 1 - 1.5 car lengths. in theory,i should've got my *** kicked. but i didn't. another reason why anything can happen on the street. i have a vid of my vs the cobra, just can't upload it.
sorry didn't mean to hi jack, just trying to prove a point
i raced a 540 rwhp cobra from a dead stop. he was a stick, a vert, and i put down close to 400 rwhp. now, i beat him probably by about 1 - 1.5 car lengths. in theory,i should've got my *** kicked. but i didn't. another reason why anything can happen on the street. i have a vid of my vs the cobra, just can't upload it.
sorry didn't mean to hi jack, just trying to prove a point
I never attacked white93LT1. I never even doubted his story. He is very down to earth about his car and deserves the props for his kill.
Good kill!
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Originally Posted by whilte93lt1
ok so i didnt know i was going to get a two page reaction out of this story....but yes it did happen...for the unbelievers ..i dont care....and i was not posting it b/c to talk **** about LS1's it was just for the hell of it. The vette was a stick i could tell by the way i jumped on him after the launch..he went..then shifted ...thats where i jumped on him...i know that he should have beat me and thats why i was not going to even try and race him from the beginngin. I have raceed other C5's pm the freeway and gotton smoked its all about the car what he has in it and how he drives it too. ...but it is street racing and **** happens like casper said....i mean things go bad or he could have mishifted, or something but a kill was a kill we gave each other thumbs up after and it was all koo....and yes it happened in San JOse CA.
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Originally Posted by WS6T/A98
Whatever man the point of this thread is not to think hmm let's see what kinda **** i can come up with to jack up the thread. Freak leave the poor guy alone, im sure he's happy with his kill and im sure he's got better things to do then to come and post something that is impossible so he can get flammed at. Sorry but its people like you who end up pulling the BS flag first and screwing up threads just because its something inferior to the < LS1.
I apologise white93LT1 for not telling you good kill first and formost before getting into a debate with these other guys.
Again, good kill.
But to you ws6t/a98 all I have to say is if you were so concerned about his thread being hijacked you wouldn't have taken the time to respond to me. But I'm flattered that you care so much.
Really, I am.
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Originally Posted by darrensls1formula
I never pulled the BS flag on him. Kindly show me where I did? In fact, I never even commented on his kill which was rude on my part.
I apologise white93LT1 for not telling you good kill first and formost before getting into a debate with these other guys.
Again, good kill.
But to you ws6t/a98 all I have to say is if you were so concerned about his thread being hijacked you wouldn't have taken the time to respond to me. But I'm flattered that you care so much.
Really, I am.
I apologise white93LT1 for not telling you good kill first and formost before getting into a debate with these other guys.
Again, good kill.
But to you ws6t/a98 all I have to say is if you were so concerned about his thread being hijacked you wouldn't have taken the time to respond to me. But I'm flattered that you care so much.
Really, I am.
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Originally Posted by whilte93lt1
thanks for the props.....i know if circumstances were differnt the outcome wouuld have been a lot different with the race....also ws6ta(casper) is my buddy so no worries on the jacked thread...ffrom me and also he called me right as me and the vette lined up at the light and i told him i was gonna run him he told me to call him back when i loose but it was all good
but it was all goodI always hated that saying
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yea sure it felt good but also i dont want to boost my confidence up like im a really fast car....b/c normally with a half decant drive or lightly modded vettes trys racing me there will be another kill story but the opposite...
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Originally Posted by whilte93lt1
yea sure it felt good but also i dont want to boost my confidence up like im a really fast car....b/c normally with a half decant drive or lightly modded vettes trys racing me there will be another kill story but the opposite...
well some of time it works that way