foxbody vs. ls1
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I like to pick on ls1s. I see a lot of those slugs at the local track and half can't even break into the 13s. A lot of fbody drivers are no driving fucksticks. I don't worry about them anymore. I like to race single turbo supras on the highway.
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ls1 vs 5.0
Originally Posted by Redneck Z
I wouldn't say whooping an LS1 would be priceless....I might say unbelievable! Sorry to poke fun at your LS1 slayer Just the thought of a 215rwhp E-cammed auto 5.0 driving around picking on and whooping LS1's sounds funny, LOL!.
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All of those mods, Kenny, are not doing too much (the larger TB, the larger MAF, etc. are flowing WAY MORE than your E7 heads can make use of. you might be getting 10 rwhp between the two.) See, the stock MAF is dot so bad on these cars, neither is the TB (which is something like 60mm i think). THe long tubes and cold air (depending on whether its fender well or not) and the cat-less h-pipe are doing some good, but the main plug in the hose are those E7 heads which flow only about 155 cfm intake side. That is less than a stock LS1 exhaust port, unless i am mistaken. As to what your combo makes EXACTLY, i dont know, i would look for a combo like yours online that was dynoed.
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ls1vs 5.0
[QUOTE=Redneck Z]Ok 5spd, still pretty funny though. Makes me think of the ricers that do their flyby's after I'm 4 cars ahead and already let off. I'm sure they go and tell their friends they just smoked an LS1. "ya, I got that fireturd on the top end." [/QUOTE Haven't told me your 60 ft yet but i bet when your car was stock it ran maybe a 13.50 w/ 2.0 2.1 60ft, **** the street its stupid to race there any way but if you were stock and we raced at the track you would be looking at some tail lights my friend.I know ,I know now you are going to come back and say that your unbeatable ls1 would have gotten me up top. Remember we are talking stock ls1, so don't come back and say that I do ricer flyby's because at the track there are no excuses ,and you know that even if a fox body beat you at the track or on the street you would never admit it. I think it's called denial ? I have respect for ls1 sbut they are not unbeatable.
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Originally Posted by kennyxg
Well since you brought it up again I said that I figured thats what it had so before you go talking sbullshit you should get your facts straight. And I also admitted that it was my estimation ok. With out the cam on bullshit tires my coupe went 13.83 w/1.89 60ft guess thats bullshit to hugh ? And as far as costing a bunch of money to get a fox to run with an f body you can't be serious cause mine already does. E-cam 150.00 pro-m 125.00 used h-pipe100.00 long tubes 300 gear373 125.00 WHOOPING AN LT1 OR LS1 PRICELESS !!!!! Beforeyou gm guys get to mad own a camaro also
If you can seriously outrun LS1's and LT1's with those mods I will sell my car right now and go buy another mustang right now. You must have a freak of nature. I mean **** the only mods doing you any good besides that weak *** cam is your exhaust and gears. You may have a different MAF but with that 48mm TB it is not doing you any good and may even be hurting. That cam is way too small, and with the stock heads you are probably seening minimal if any gains at all. I used to be a mustang freak before I owned my LT1, and I can guarandamntee you that with those mods, you could not come close to a well driven STOCK LS1. **** even a well driven LT1 would be a challenge. I am not doubting your times at all because where you are located and where I am the same car can run completely different times. But I'm sure that LS1's around there run better times too. But **** I guess GM was stupid for giving those cars another 48 CI (44 on the LS1) and almost 100 RWHP, cause ****, any guy with a few mods on his Foxbody could beat an fbody.
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Ls1 Vs 5.0
Originally Posted by DopdBrd
BTW what was your MPH on that 13.83 run???
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I used to be an LT1 freak before I became a mustang guy. Want to know what changed my mind? My friends 89(?) LX with gears, CAI,pullys, and exhaust held almost dead even with my 95 LT1 A4. I figured, hell, no way I can afford to mod this LT1, but mods for the 5.0 are CHEAP. So....ALso, Kenny, your mph was 92.XX in the 1/4 and your time was a 14.4 You have a decent ET with CRAPPY mph. What that is saying is that your hp is not 260 rwhp. Rather, it is a testamony to the awesome traction that the fox chassy can get and your launching skills/low end/gears/tires. 15mph to any speed and the LS1 would murder you. I love the fox 5.0 and drive one, but i give credit where credit is due, even with all my mods I am hoping to only be the rough equivalent of an LS1 from a roll. (I did kill an S2000 55-95 mph all in 4th gear though not by much, but at 55mph even with 4.10's 4th gear is slow.) Also, my car wont launch worth crap, I cant get the legendary fox traction Dunno why, tried slipping the clutch at 2K rpm and it just spun 245/60/15 tires btw, maybe i need radials, but it rains too much for that.
#114
Ls1 Vs 5.0
Originally Posted by Stanger88
I used to be an LT1 freak before I became a mustang guy. Want to know what changed my mind? My friends 89(?) LX with gears, CAI,pullys, and exhaust held almost dead even with my 95 LT1 A4. I figured, hell, no way I can afford to mod this LT1, but mods for the 5.0 are CHEAP. So....ALso, Kenny, your mph was 92.XX in the 1/4 and your time was a 14.4 You have a decent ET with CRAPPY mph. What that is saying is that your hp is not 260 rwhp. Rather, it is a testamony to the awesome traction that the fox chassy can get and your launching skills/low end/gears/tires. 15mph to any speed and the LS1 would murder you. I love the fox 5.0 and drive one, but i give credit where credit is due, even with all my mods I am hoping to only be the rough equivalent of an LS1 from a roll. (I did kill an S2000 55-95 mph all in 4th gear though not by much, but at 55mph even with 4.10's 4th gear is slow.) Also, my car wont launch worth crap, I cant get the legendary fox traction Dunno why, tried slipping the clutch at 2K rpm and it just spun 245/60/15 tires btw, maybe i need radials, but it rains too much for that.
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Originally Posted by DopdBrd
If you can seriously outrun LS1's and LT1's with those mods I will sell my car right now and go buy another mustang right now. You must have a freak of nature. I mean **** the only mods doing you any good besides that weak *** cam is your exhaust and gears. You may have a different MAF but with that 48mm TB it is not doing you any good and may even be hurting. That cam is way too small, and with the stock heads you are probably seening minimal if any gains at all. I used to be a mustang freak before I owned my LT1, and I can guarandamntee you that with those mods, you could not come close to a well driven STOCK LS1. **** even a well driven LT1 would be a challenge. I am not doubting your times at all because where you are located and where I am the same car can run completely different times. But I'm sure that LS1's around there run better times too. But **** I guess GM was stupid for giving those cars another 48 CI (44 on the LS1) and almost 100 RWHP, cause ****, any guy with a few mods on his Foxbody could beat an fbody.
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I am sorry Kenny, thought i read 92 somewhere. My fault. A mph of 101 is getting LS1 close, you may have more hp under the hood that originally thought. For comparison, my friends 98 A4 Z28 pulled 13.3 @ 105. He prolly had about 300ish rwhp, no? So 101 would POSSIBLY be indicative of mid 200's? I dont know, anyone???
#118
A buddy of mine around town and I , took his white vert '93 5.0 to moroso and ran a 15.1 That was a convertible and automatic car. I wasnt impressed. From then on, ive been wanting a LS1 but id love to have a little notchback to play around with too.
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Originally Posted by mattkimsey
Is that with stock tires? The variables are to keep some type standard to base a comparison off of. I have no doubt that when you run longturbes, shortbelt, H/C/I, -200lbs weight, 4.10gear and stickies etc. that a 5.0 should kill a stockish fbody..
Originally Posted by mattkimsey
I'm sure their cars are a little more setup for good 60's. Did you have a gear or sticky tires? Did they?
Originally Posted by mattkimsey
Considering the 0-60 times...I think it should be a decent amount of space.