ws6wow

[QUOTE=Cgillies86]You a lil off in you MPH for stage 3:
2003 srt4
stage 3 without toys/pump gas 93 octane shell v power
mopar borla exhaust
maxxfabb downpipe with cat
iceman throttlebody
spearco large fmic
k&n fipk intake
205/50/15 bfg drag radials
12.94 at 114.3 et
60ft 2.16

Toys
99.6 oct (not high enough octane. would go out of Hi-oct around 80mph)
DAB 3
IC Sprayer on
stock tires
BDJs 3" dump
stock plugs gapped at .35
ran 13.39 @ 107
best MPH 108
best 60ft 2.34

stage 3 no toys new times
Stage 3
Borla
Maxxfabb downpipe with cat
Iceman Throttlebody
K&N fipk
Spearco FMIC
Rage lower control arm bushings
M&H slicks 24x8.5
Peg leg
12.55 at 109.7
Best mph 114
Best 1/8 mile 8.1
Best 1/8 mph 90.6
Best 60 ft- 1.89

These were just a few stage 3's taken off of this page:http://www.srtforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=98998

ok i can do the same here


just got back from milan tonight

stage 3 no spray

11.58 @120.29


fastest trap speed was 122.69

Update - New best time:

60' 1.79
1/8 Mile ET 7.51
1/8 Mile MPH 95.43
1/4 Mile ET 11.61
1/4 Mile MPH 120.23


non-HOM, DAB 3

I1 = 1.776
I2 = 4.852
I3 = 7.383
MPH (I3) = 95.846
I4 = 9.506
E.T. = 11.410
MPH = 122.465

Stage 3 MOPAR coilovers
Prothane Bushings
Hotchkis sways
Keizer wheels
M+H 9.0 inch


so they do trap prety high dont just take the lowest ones, most of the time stage 2 cars should beat a stock ls1.

Cgillies86

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[QUOTE=ws6wow]If you look through the Stage 3 thread most do not clock near 120 or above. Most clock 110-117. With more than a couple lower than 110. You gave an extraordinary example.

As for stage 2 looking at the Facts, Stage 2's on average mid-low 13 second cars. There are plenty that run high 13s on stage 2 and a few that run high 12s. Now stock ls1s on average run mid to low 13s, with a few bone stock people breaking high 12s. Looks like a drivers race to me. But, since I would be racing a stage 2, with my mods, I don't think I have to worry.

ws6wow

r u kidding dont give me that crap that ls1's run 12's stock thats like 1 in a 1000, and most stage 2 cars run low13's high 12's is because they have other mods besides a stage 2 , such as exchaust mbc, cai, etc...so please dont give me extreme cases, MOST ls1's run mid 13's, an i know ppl that ran bone stock srt's 13.9's so the facts dont lie

Iron Sights

Thats what he said...he said a few, not all.

ws6wow

r u joking a few, its less then a few, its almost imposible

Cgillies86

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12 second ls1s are about as common as your 13.9 srt-4's. Here is just one example:http://gmhightechperformance.com/fea...0903htp_vette/ Go to drag racing, and its in the second paragraph.

Cgillies86

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Let's face it guys, Us LS1 people are obviously on the wrong platform. Because SRT-4s are so much more superior. I mean Stage 3 they are faster than Mclearn F1. Stage 2 they can beat Z06s. FWD is definetely superior to RWD. I have no doubt in my mind anymore. Thank you ws6wow You have convinced me. I agree its impossible for a stock LS1 to get into the 12s.

ws6wow

let me start of by saying that i was confused, about something lol, i thought u were talking about camaro/trans am ls1. I was talking about getting those in the 12's bone stock, ur car yes i agree i would say low 13's high 12's. I just wanted to clea that up since u sent me the link with vettes i was confused there for a sec, then i realized that u were talking about the ls1 vette and not the camaro, I was at some point going to get an srt4 but changed my mind and got a mach1 insted cuz its still a 4 cyl and i wanna a v8. After winter i am gonna upgrade to a 03 cobra, since it has way more potential then my car. Sorry for the confusion its just a lot of ls1 ppl seem to be cocky, well at least the ones i've met, i dont want to start no wars.

Black_Bird

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Theres plenty of camaros/trans ams that have went into the 12's bone stock too...not just the vettes..

AcE XBOX

[QUOTE=ws6wow] Theres a Stage 2 SRT-4..... he got spanked by 2 camaros, a lightning, an vert 04 Cobra, and an E55 AMG..... he called us out. He thought he is extremely fast.

mmmmmmmmmmmmyfault

here are a few stage 2 times:

year= 2003
toys= yes
dab= 3
race gas= no but had switch on
tires= 225/50/15 drag radials
boost leak= never checked
do i have a leak=who knows?
other mods= look a sig
times=
60'= 2.009
330'= 5.454
1/8= 8.295 87.29 mph
1000'= 10.743
1/4 12.824 108.8 mph

Year: 2003
Toys: Yes
DAB: 3
Intercooler Sprayer: On
Race-gas button: yes
Tires: BFG G-Force Drag Radials, 19 psi
Launch Technique: let out clutch quickly tration permitting @ 2900-3150 rpm's
Shifting: WOT shifting 2-3 and 3-4
Exhaust: Welfare
Any other mods: STS, screamin deamon and crane firewires
Weight reduction: Removed spare tire/jack
Boost leak checked: No
Boost leak checked since: 5/20/04
Weather: 85 degrees, high humidity
Elevation: Close to sea level


60'.........1.898
330'.......5.358
1/8........8.215
1000'......10.960
1/4'........12.787 @ 107.2

Year: 2003
Toys: Yes
DAB: 2
Intercooler Sprayer: Off
Race-gas button: On
Tires: Michelin PS, 30 psi
Launch Technique: Leave at idle, then WOT
Shifting: No WOT shifting
Exhaust: Mopar catback
Any other mods: STS, everything else stock
Weight reduction: Swapped to spoilerless trunklid
Boost leak checked: No
Boost leak checked since: Not yet, but tightened clamps
Weather: 75 degrees
Elevation: Sea level

Best MPH:
60'.........2.258
330'.......5.958
1/8........8.937 @ 84.36
1000......11.487
1/4........13.625 @ 108.37

Next time I'm going to use my 225/50/15 BFG drag radials and DAB3.

a new best for me. .031 seconds and 2.99 mph better
mods from bone stock: stage 2 without toys installed yet, 3" exhaust, no boost leak check, pump gas, 17" gforce drag radials (same 60' times as me on pilot sports) & freshly reset ecu (was throwing a code caused by stage 0 tip sensor)
60'........2.155
330'......5.813
1/8.......8.707
mph......84.28
1000'....11.226
1/4.......13.329
mph......108.89

1/4 tank of 93, and 1 gallon of 103

Advanced timing button on.
Water sprayers on auto.
DR's on. 16 psi
Dail-A-Boost on max.

Pro-Tree:

RT: .740
60: 2.63
1/8: 8.745
mph: 84.60
1/4:13.377
mph:108.26

Another:
DAB 3
Sprayer on
HO on
93 unleaded
BFG DRs 18 psi
SHIFTY MOD

quickest=

60 1.965
1/8 8.337
MPH 85.51
1/4 12.850
MPH 110.66

Fastest =

60 2.055
1/8 8.492
mph 85.27
1/4 13.038
MPH 111.12

and here was the fastest stage 2 car (stock turbo, no nitrous) - but he has a bigger turbo now, and is close to running 10s

I went to Norwalk raceway park tonight and only got 3 passes in then the rain came. I did set some new best for me

New best 60ft 1.694 I think this is the first SRT to break into the 1.6's

First pass. Tilt wheel fell in my lap when I dumped the clutch so I got confused and short shifted to 2nd gear on this pass.

60ft----1.696
330'----4.986
1/8-----7.721
mph----89.65
1000'---10.119
1/4-----12.134
mph----112.12

2nd pass went better but I still didn't nail the shift points.

60ft----1.705
330'----4.967------New best
1/8-----7.695------New best
mph----90.21
1000'---10.074-----New best
1/4-----12.072-----New best
mph----115.09-----New best

3rd pass I thought I would try short shifting every gear (5600 to 5700) bad idea

60ft----1.694----New best
330'----4.957
1/8-----7.702
mph----90.62
1000'---10.094
1/4-----12.121
mph----108.45

SporkLover

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[QUOTE=Cgillies86]You are way off on SRT-4's. With a good driver and good tuning a stage II is easily tapping 12's, a Stage I with boost mods is easily mid-low 13's, and a Stage III car can be low 12's to 11's.

You can't base your opinions off of all of the morons on SRTForums. Most of those people are kids with their parent's money. Think of it as the LS1.com of the SRT world.

Think of Stage II like adding a mild cam to a m6 LS1 car. Sure you can add it in there and leave it alone and it will feel faster and add more power..... but you will never realize the full potential without the driver mod and good tuning. For the most part just adding Stage II dumps alot of extra fuel into the motor. thats where the tuning comes in........

There are plenty of good examples of fast Stage II cars out there. There are more great examples of Stage III (try the chicago area).... and beleive it or not there are even people running 13.0-13.3 with a $5 mod to the car. Read a little more.... you'll see the SRT in the right hands has a ton of potential, and the examples you are finding are poor ones.

MY99TAWS6

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Ok the srt 4 have what 260 hp ? or was it 240 ?and stage 2 adds what 40 hp?
So would expect a half second improvement from that or so.
And if the norm run a low 14 then mid to high 13s and of course tires are key on any fwd or rwd. Those srt can wheel hop bad and don't hook up very well on street tires. Course either do most rear wheel drive cars.
And the turbo cars do have advantage of being less affected by alitutde over NA cars. That can help quite a bit also. Our 350 engine hp ls1 is more like 320 hp at my 1900 feet altitude worse on bad density air days.
But seriously a few things here...mph is pretty directly related to hp/weight.So you can take what the car traps stock and then add in the extra power.
Now don't doubt srt 4 can trap 130 to 140 with big aftermarket turbos like GT35R garretts which can be bought for these cars or 60-1 non ball bearing turbos also which can be bought for these cars.
Cars like my talon with a similar turbo can hit 130 to 140mph and run 10s. There is no reason for an srt 4 not to hit 10s or 9s or even 6s like dsms have. All it takes is a big enough turbo with proper support mods.
Remember the stage 3 is a different turbo ,no stage 2 is going to make that much power the stock turbo is pretty limited in output potential. But also know that nitrous gives pretty big gains when combined with turbos so a 50 shot on a srt might be more like a 75 shot on a v8.
Turbo cars are fun and some can be very fast. You can get 600 plus engine hp out of a 2.0 litre car with a turbo and it can be surprisingly streetable. By same token you can get over 1000 hp
on a v8 pretty easily with turbos too.

I have seen several posts on the srt forums that have to be fabrications.The are not that fast on the stock turbos.No matter what they have added expect for spray and an ls1 on spray can hit 11s too pretty easily. A stock ls1 on spray.

Anyway the guy was a huge optimist..most stage 2 srt 4 will not be that much faster than stock ones.and certainly not 115mph.

97blkz

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LOL stage III trap 130-140, maybe with a running start!

sleeperstyle

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this thread sucks. it isn't a race so why the hell is it in streetracing/kill stories?

the vette is the faster car in this case, hands down. just race and then post the story afterwards.

as for the 130mph- 140mph traps . i would have laughed in the guy's face right there.

SporkLover

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122 mph is the best I have seen so far.

but I think the vette can put it on him

Cam99

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I raced a stage 2 with toys, intake , and exhaust four times from 40-110ish. two times he had a fender on me two times I had a fender on him. I'm running 12.6 @ 108 so they are fast in the right hands.

hugger1975

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how much is a brand new stage 3 out the door?


no one evr talks price.
i wanna know what these 12 second warrentied pocket rockets are selling for.

SporkLover

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No warranty. For the full kit with turbo toys, 3500-3800 depends on you vendor.... plus you have to have the supporting mods

300bhp/ton

arn't you being a bit 2 faced.

ls1's in 12's = no no too rare.

srt-4 in 13's = also rare, but according to you Maybe try and keep it a little more balanced.

BTW Corvette's (as is evident by the orginal posters SIG) is what was being referenced, and again in the SIG you can see it ain't stock. Corvette's you'll find are also a bit quicer STOCK than an Fbody.