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11-12-2005, 09:02 PM

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Bottlefed, FYI GM underrated LS1's.[/QUOTE]

good to know...

my roommates at a movie hasnt been following this thread at all...said hell read it and post later...

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11-12-2005, 09:09 PM

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heres another possibility...just throwing it out there not sure at all...but it is possible his car has gears in it...he bought it used from a dealership, and it had the hypertech chip....now most people i know usually do chip intake and exhaust...nothing was done with the intake so its possible the hypertech chip was used to change the gear ratio...again just throwing it out there...not sure how much that could effect the trap speed...

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11-12-2005, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Jimbo

"No B.S. here, move along folks."

This story is more than believable. I have seen LS1's running low 14's but not at Moroso where we are at sea level.

I'm not calling bs on the ET, just the trap speed!

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That is strange. Though as far as the car being down on horsepower, 2 Guy's Garage (SPEEDCHANNEL) put an STS turbo on a stock SS. The crappy part is, that they dyno'd it before the turbo and it dyno'd 275-278rwhp and 425rwhp with the trubo. I was literally screaming BS at my television that day. Im not sure a lid and a chip would get you to 300rwhp but it might get you close.

Different car, different day, different dyno. The average catback LS1, on the average dyno, on any given day should put down 295-305+rwhp.

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run 2 60' 2.223 1/4 13.906 at 100.39 mph

So on run 2 he beat you.

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11-12-2005, 09:17 PM

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no on run 2 he was sleeping at the light...his R/T was .558 to my .318(not that that is anything to brag about) so while his 1/4 mile time was better i got the win by .1139....

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11-12-2005, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BottleFed03GT

no i never ran the 1/4 mile only the 1/8 before and my times were just an estmate of what the 1/4 mile time should be...noride brought that up...no bs here...nothing to hide...obviously i may have been wrong...still think with some work driving wise i can run the numbers i said before..

Post the facts man. I beleive you beat the SS by a small margin, but look at everything you've done to it.

Estimates are crap, timeslips are fact.

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11-12-2005, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BottleFed03GT

no on run 2 he was sleeping at the light...his R/T was .558 to my .318(not that that is anything to brag about) so while his 1/4 mile time was better i got the win by .1139....

In other words he beat you.

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11-12-2005, 09:29 PM

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mmm...no when i cross the finish line first...that means i win...if i red light and cross first then he wins...i didnt red light and its a heads up race...

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11-12-2005, 09:39 PM

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Well I think we can agree that his car(not him) was faster than you on the second run. That's the whole point of going to the track--seeing who has the faster car. If I race someone and sit at the line for 30 seconds and run the better ET, I'm perfectly happy with that

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11-12-2005, 09:43 PM

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I guess the trap speeds don't really matter because looking back at the times.....your car is running like crap too. No offense, but I've heard of stock GT's trapping 101mph.

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11-12-2005, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mattkimsey

i'd have to disagree with you on that one...we went there to race...i won both times...reaction time is a big part of racing...espically when two cars are evenly matched..

plus my car still ran a 13.7 on the first run...so my Car was still faster....

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11-12-2005, 09:51 PM

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I guess the trap speeds don't really matter because looking back at the times.....your car is running like crap too. No offense, but I've heard of stock GT's trapping 101mph.

damn enough already...you can analize the times all you want...it really comes down to maybe 2-3 people on this site gave me a chance in this race with most people saying it wouldnt be close and hed destory me...that was knowing that he wasnt expiereced at the track but giving him the benefit of the doubt casue he had an automatic...we went best out of three and i won the first 2 no need for a 3rd good thing too cause the track was too busy and we wouldnt have gotten another run in...

so now that i won people are writing well look at the mods i have oh the times sucked...excuses excuses...fact is i won accept that the LS1 can be beat...even if just for 1 night...

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11-12-2005, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BottleFed03GT

sorry was exhausted last night when posted that...and no both are 60' time were horrible...
race 1 i ran a 13.762 at 101.72mph, 60' time 2.073 to the SS's 14.034 at 98.19mph 60' 2.118

race 2 was won at the light i had a .318 R/T a 2.234 60' ran a 14.033 at 100.33mph he had a .558 R/T 2.223 60' ran a 13.906 at 100.39 but couldnt catch me and i won by about a half a car...

yes the 60'time for me are horrible on a DR couldnt stop the tires from spining out of the box, mostly due to my inexperience at the track. It was all for fun got some great pratice in...

thats what my stock 98 z28 w/ 80k and shifting slowly around 5500k rpm (crossing in 3rd)

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11-12-2005, 10:06 PM

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plus my car still ran a 13.7 on the first run...so my Car was still faster....

Yes, on the first run you won, no doubt. When comparing which car is faster, I like the second run better because the 60' was almost identical and he ran the faster ET.

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11-12-2005, 10:28 PM

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Hey, if you both were there to run heads up, and you crossed the line first...its a kill. Doesn't matter who ran quicker or trapped higher. A lower ET and more whp means nadda if you can't put it down when your running heads up.

I know I've gotten kills on faster cars because the other driver was slow.

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11-12-2005, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BottleFed03GT

Your right a STOCK LS1 can be beat......it just takes heads, cams and a bunch of other stuff!

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11-12-2005, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Jimbo

I can understand that SS running a 98mph run. First, its an auto and second, it has the LS1 intake manifold on it. No offence to anyone on the board (i have seen mid 13 second stock 98's and 99's) but 98's or 99's arent usually the fastest of the bunch. Our florida humidity is nasty too. Its getting better though as we near towards winter.

Good win bottlefed, Moroso's track prep was a given huh? With some practice and a 100 shot you've got to be in the 12's. That'll put u right at 380-400 rwhp in your GT. Get a nice launch and youll be in the 12's no prob, mid 12's I would think.

I just dont see how you said you ran mid 12's with the bottle yet your pulling 13.7 with cams, pullies, Intake and exhuast. Something smells fishy...did you really run 12's at the track....or run at the track at all before this day

????

The fastest stock LS1 happens to be a 98 stripper Z28.

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11-12-2005, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BottleFed03GT

I agree with you, you won. Fair and square. If you guys ran heads up, then you crossed first the second run... and you won. Either way, it was still relatively close, and it must have been pretty fun. I will agree though, BOTH cars seem to have had something wrong(not trying to make excuses either way). I would expect both cars to have performed better. At least with the trap speed... was the weather bad or something? I dunno, but either way, you won, and nice kill

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11-12-2005, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BottleFed03GT

no story...first where do you get that a stock ls1 has 300+ RWHP they rated at 320 from the factory at the flywheel...you saying they only lose 20 hp through the drivetrain?? his 2nd run he ran at 100.39 only got 2 runs in on the night...

bottlefed, i dyno'd at 304 with an intake throu an auto tranny and f-bodies tend to dyno higher than vettes, hence thats why in the quarter they run around the same times or sometimes faster,stock for stock(f-bodies need around 20rwhp more to be even with vettes). stock ls1's can dyno 300+ throu an M6 or a strong runnin auto, btw those are with the ls6 intake.