Nothing wrong with roll racing. It's not like you can stop in the middle of a highway to race. No hookup excuses. I'd rather roll race with my VR-4 because it puts alot less stress on the transfer case and tranny. No point busting up my car because I know I can out launch the majority of the cars where I live.

 

In roll racing reaction time still comes into play.

I see roll racing as a way for cars that can't hook up on street tires to race without slicks. It's also a lot easier to get going, because if you're racing someone you don't know, it's way easier to just race on the highway you're on, from a roll, then go about your business than to try to coax them to an on ramp or something.

Now when you go to a place where a dig race is very easy to start, i.e. a parking lot, service road, or track, and someone wants to race from a roll, then it's lame.

 

racing from a dig= driver + car + traction + power.

racing from a roll= car + power

racing is racing, a win is a win, but like mentioned a race from a roll can turn out entirely different than one from a stop. mph wins a roll race, et + mph + driver + hook wins a DRAG race.

i only race from a stop. now, if somebody doesn't want to race me from a stop i consider that a win on my part (they admitted defeat) so i'll go ahead and run them from a roll if they insist. even if they beat me from a roll, i remind them that i won from a dig. if they try to argue i politely ask again if they want to run from a stop.

 

Suspension, built rear-end, vht, and sticky tires are just part of drag racing. I live near rural areas, with plenty of flat straights-so I'm into digs. Also, a flagger is the only fair way to start a street race imo, i never liked the 3 honk thing.

 

"Racing" from a roll compares not even the whole cars. It compares power, gearing, and to a much lesser extent aerodynamics. It leaves out grip, handling, braking, endurance, etc.

Racing from a dig tests the cars suspension, gearing, power, aerodynamics, weight, prep, etc.

Racing on the road/oval track tests everything. Except maybe cargo capacity. It is IMHO the fuggin best hands down.

What most people are into is comparing cars on this site. Its a car site. Makes sense.

RACING is about the car and the DRIVER. And anyone who is really into motorsport knows this. "Racing" from a roll is IMHO not a race. Its comparing a few aspects of two cars. Racing from a dig is test of car and driver, and also tests more aspects of the cars. Not saying roll racing aint fun. It is.

Basicly, people discounting victories because someone whith superior skills beat a theoretically superior car are bench racing panzies. If you want to have a technical discussion, then OK, but if someone in a stock Mach 1 beats a catback/lid/sfc LS1, that driver has my respect and well earned victory.

Yes Racing from a dig is more difficult. Thats another way to say it tests driver skill much more. Yes it requires certain facilities to do well. So does football, and I dont see people trying to say that kick the can is a better sport. Yes it takes more money. You should see what a circle track or roadracing setup runs. But for better or worse, sports are not determined by how easy they are to engage in.

Cars without drivers run pretty damn slow in the 1/4. They get beat by BUS lengths by Hondas from a roll.

 

How does roll racing compare aerodynamice less?? Most roll races end at a much higher speed.

 

The biggest excuse in racing on the street is "I couldn't hook up". Racing from a roll usually eliminates that.

 

The people that say that racing from a roll is gay are just ignorant. Racing is racing no matter where you race or how you race. There is always some skill involved and reasons why some like one over the other. The guys that only race from a dig can be called gay because they dont road race. Imports are called gay because they start out slower. But really its just a bunch of people out there having fun with there cars, what they like to do, and doing some racing, no matter what the venue. I personally like to race from either one. Roll or a dig, doesnt matter to me. I like rollr acing because i usually do it from the freeway and can get to a higher mph. I like racing from a dig, because i get to hit more gears and feel harder acceleration. But like i said, racing is racing, doesnt matter from a dig, roll, road, 1/8 mile, 1/4 mile, dirt track, whatever. If you take the race, then your up.

 

I don't really mind either. Traction can be a serious problem for me on a dig, but taking a couple extra seconds to slowly get into the go pedal helps
Matt

 

Another reason that falls under the 'excuses' for roll-racing is how they can put out insane HP and not have everything set up to handle it... ie. previous reasons like busting the stock rear or welding the clutch to the flywheel... stuff like that where all they're worrying about is the HP and not putting it to the ground in a drag-racing situation... dyno queens if you will... but mostly HP junkies that don't care about dragging - just going fast.

 

only f-body's have the pos rear... watch your mouth!

 

A race is a race to me.
I can go from a dig or run from a roll,just line-em up and set-em-off i say.

Nitto's are always on the car ,with the 4000 stall i say let's stop and line up.

And from a roll the loose vertor is real good there too.

Either way i have horse power in a bottle that hardly ever gets to be unleashed anymore.

I look forward to racing a FASTER car so i have to work at it,ya know what i mean?

If I hook and you don't,that's your problem not mine,and visa/versa.

Dave

 

The right question is ..." What do you consider a race?" I consider a race a match up of various attributes, car, traction, power, and driver skill. The hardest part of a race should be and is the driver using his skill to balance those attributes and overcome inertia.....aka launching. Everything after that is easy. So it's easy to see that I consider a dig race the real deal.

If I were on the opposite side of the fence, then that means the SRT-4 is possibly on the level with the WRX STi, or EVO IV..... which we know it isnt... but from a roll, with equal drivers, the SRT can definitely pull on those cars. I did when I had mine. Not knocking on anything the SRT has accomplished.... but for the victory to be truly sweet it needs to happen from the dig.

Now that that has been said..... I find it hard to catch races from a dig...... so I find myself doing roll patrol more often. Not practical to stop on the main roads or the high way to run, and Im not dedicated to racing enough to take 10-15 minutes out of my day to go out of my way to any race locations.

 

Its so funny that some people say "roll racing is not real racing". Try telling that to the officer that pulls you over. Tell him that since you went from a roll its technically not a real speed competition. Haha.

 

Racing from a dig is the truest race because it takes into account driver skill, suspension, traction, etc. not just horsepower. Roll race is still racing , you are just eliminating some of the variables out of the race and making it easier. I always prefer dig or at least a slow roll just because the race usually ends at a lower speed . I guess I'm just getting older , but hitting 140 plus on public roads makes me very uncomfortable anymore. Roll racing from highway speeds always ends up stupid fast because you start out so fast. My .02.

 

if this is true then drifting would be the "truest" race b/c it involves using all of those more, especially the driver skill, which is what people who say digs are the only type often give for a reason

 

I must confess,i TOTALLY agree with this.

 

Personally, I always give the other car/driver the option. I can 60 foot the same on the street like I can at the track effortlesly with the same tires. Weather is irrelevant...as long as it's dry. The car's not too slow on a roll either so....yeah.

 

I am curious,what is your average/best 60ft times?
Nice MPH,by-the-way.

 

blast you and your AWD!!!!!