How to Kill a SVT Cobra?
03-13-2006, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 560SL
So, since I DOMINATED your sorry, misinformed *** in the Porsche argument, are you going to flame me with all your posts now? Hurts to be wrong doesn't it? Sorry if I make a positive post, but I guess it bothers you. I'm sorry I'm not as big a badass as you are on the street in my big bad vette. Get a life pal.
03-13-2006, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 2.73 Vette
00 SLVR....You dont need those mods to beat a stock cobra..At my track with my slow 2.73 gears my friend cobra was only a tenth faster than my vette stock for stock. The fastest stock cobra at my track was only 3 tenths faster than me stock for stock...Both on stock tires as well...
For a C5 all you need is an air intake and exhaust. That should make up for the 3 tenth advantage they usually have over a stock c5. for a Fbody wich is only a tenth slower than the C5..all you need is intake/exhaust and tires for a stock Cobra and you'll waste him..
Yea there are people out there that ave ran 12.6 in there bone stock Cobra. But dont sell your self short. there are also people running 12.8's in stock vettes and 12.9's in stock f bodys...
And before someone comes and post how a stock cobra has ran 12.4...stock c5's have ran 12.6..And stock f bodys have ran 12.8. In stock form the cobra is faster. But your talking 2-3 tenths faster than a C5 or 3-4 tenths faster than an f body..
You just posted that you need full bolt ons..A cam and DR's just to take a stock cobra. Your smoking crack. A cammed full bolt on F body on Dr's will run 11's. why do you need to run 11's to kill a mid-high 12 second car??????
My friends 03 cobra ran 13.4..My stock vette ran 13.5..The fastest stock cobra at our track ran 13.2...
With an stock LS6 heads..small cam and no cats with a ram air intake all untuned on street tires i run 12.9 ( 3 tenths faster than the fastest stock Cobra at my track) If i had all the bolt ons plus drag radials and a tune I would be well over a second faster than the stock cobra.
Were you thinking about a 05 Viper an accidentally typed stock 03 cobra?????
For a C5 all you need is an air intake and exhaust. That should make up for the 3 tenth advantage they usually have over a stock c5. for a Fbody wich is only a tenth slower than the C5..all you need is intake/exhaust and tires for a stock Cobra and you'll waste him..
Yea there are people out there that ave ran 12.6 in there bone stock Cobra. But dont sell your self short. there are also people running 12.8's in stock vettes and 12.9's in stock f bodys...
And before someone comes and post how a stock cobra has ran 12.4...stock c5's have ran 12.6..And stock f bodys have ran 12.8. In stock form the cobra is faster. But your talking 2-3 tenths faster than a C5 or 3-4 tenths faster than an f body..
You just posted that you need full bolt ons..A cam and DR's just to take a stock cobra. Your smoking crack. A cammed full bolt on F body on Dr's will run 11's. why do you need to run 11's to kill a mid-high 12 second car??????
My friends 03 cobra ran 13.4..My stock vette ran 13.5..The fastest stock cobra at our track ran 13.2...
With an stock LS6 heads..small cam and no cats with a ram air intake all untuned on street tires i run 12.9 ( 3 tenths faster than the fastest stock Cobra at my track) If i had all the bolt ons plus drag radials and a tune I would be well over a second faster than the stock cobra.
Were you thinking about a 05 Viper an accidentally typed stock 03 cobra?????
Torque_Wrench asked what he needed in order to beat a SVT Cobra, and I told him what he needed to beat a stock 03-04 Cobra, plain and simple. Full bolt-ons, DR's and a cam. There's no need for this to turn into an 8 page thread debating about what mods it will take to beat a Cobra.
03-13-2006, 08:42 PM
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I race my buddy with a 03 Cobra with full exhaust and tune.........he only gets me my a car length to 100 and all i have is a LM............granted he cant drive as well as I can but whatever.........bolt it on and spank em NA.......
03-13-2006, 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by kazfan30
What years??? If stock then you will easily defeat 94-02's i would think. The 03 and 04's are the scary ones.....stock they are not too bad, but with very little work you have a 500+ rwhp cobra to deal with 
03-13-2006, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by unit213
You two need to relax if you plan on sticking around here.
03-14-2006, 12:13 AM
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Bolt ons with a GOOD tune, everyone always assumes that when u say boltons, you mean just boltons. Boltons, if u have 100% of them, are worth a tune alone if its all you intend to do to your car. gotta get the most out of it right?
03-14-2006, 03:58 AM
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Your full of sh*t man.. the fastest bone stock 03 cobra in the country has ran 12.4....thats there current record.
So how are they all gonna run 12.4-12.6
Ir reality a 12.6 is a VERY good time for a stock 03 cobra..
12.7 is a good time as well. typical is 12.8-13.1 bone stock. ive been to there boards numerous times and know what they run. as a vette owner there my biggest competition So naturally im gonna go check them out..
so you post the fastest times possible for a 03 cobra to run but then post the slowest times possible for a f body saying they run md - high 13's bone stock?????
50 % of the people on this site ran a 13.4 or better in there stock F bodies. A few people ran 12.9 bone stock as well as many that ran 13.0-13.2 bone stock....
So why do you compare the fastest of the fast cobras to the slowest of the slow F bodies????? Thats a BS move..
If your gonna use the fastest bone stock 03 Cobra time in the country as a reference for what stock Cobras can do ( 12.4) then how about we use the stronges stock f body in the country as a reference as well (12.8) and while were at it two bone stock Y bodies have ran 12.6 so now ...
All 03 Cobras can run 12.4-12.6
All 02 F bodies can run 12.8-13.0
all y bodies can run 12.6-12.8
All those numbers are complete BS since they represent what the top 5 percentile of each respective car is capable of....
How about we use the percentile that 50% of people can achieve to make the numbers look like what you'll normally see one do..
Cobra.....12.8-13.0
F body....13.2-13.4
Y body....13.0-13.2
Now when you look at it in a fair way you can see with equal performance numbers instead of the fastest f the fast Cobra vrs the average to slow F body you can see it's not that much of a differance..
NUMBERS DONT LIE...The fastest stock 03 cobra has only ran 12.4
The fastest stock c5 has ran a 12.6
The fastest stock F body has ran 12.8
Dont twist the numbers to make your opinion look better.
it would be like me taking one of my friends C5's that ran 12.8 bone stock and going and teasing all the 03 cobra's who never did better than 13.0..
Why should I be comparing my strong c5 to the weak cobras..Shouldnt I be comparing it to the strong ones????
same holds true for your comparison.
Oh and to add fuel to the fire. The fastest bone stock c6 in the country has ran a 12.2...Thats two tenths faster than the fastest stock cobra in the country(12.4)....
hers a link for you to go see what bone stock c5 mn6's from all over the country have ran bone stock
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...7&forum_id=108
This is not a top 10 list. just a random list that i created by Pming people and and having them respond to me and a thread i created.
Now you show me a list ( not a top 10 list) of what stock cobras run...I want you to prove to me how these stock LS1 vettes need all bolt ons and a cam as well as DR's to beat a car thats 4 tenths faster...
So how are they all gonna run 12.4-12.6
Ir reality a 12.6 is a VERY good time for a stock 03 cobra..12.7 is a good time as well. typical is 12.8-13.1 bone stock. ive been to there boards numerous times and know what they run. as a vette owner there my biggest competition So naturally im gonna go check them out..
so you post the fastest times possible for a 03 cobra to run but then post the slowest times possible for a f body saying they run md - high 13's bone stock?????
50 % of the people on this site ran a 13.4 or better in there stock F bodies. A few people ran 12.9 bone stock as well as many that ran 13.0-13.2 bone stock....
So why do you compare the fastest of the fast cobras to the slowest of the slow F bodies????? Thats a BS move..
If your gonna use the fastest bone stock 03 Cobra time in the country as a reference for what stock Cobras can do ( 12.4) then how about we use the stronges stock f body in the country as a reference as well (12.8) and while were at it two bone stock Y bodies have ran 12.6 so now ...
All 03 Cobras can run 12.4-12.6
All 02 F bodies can run 12.8-13.0
all y bodies can run 12.6-12.8
All those numbers are complete BS since they represent what the top 5 percentile of each respective car is capable of....
How about we use the percentile that 50% of people can achieve to make the numbers look like what you'll normally see one do..
Cobra.....12.8-13.0
F body....13.2-13.4
Y body....13.0-13.2
Now when you look at it in a fair way you can see with equal performance numbers instead of the fastest f the fast Cobra vrs the average to slow F body you can see it's not that much of a differance..
NUMBERS DONT LIE...The fastest stock 03 cobra has only ran 12.4
The fastest stock c5 has ran a 12.6
The fastest stock F body has ran 12.8
Dont twist the numbers to make your opinion look better.
it would be like me taking one of my friends C5's that ran 12.8 bone stock and going and teasing all the 03 cobra's who never did better than 13.0..
Why should I be comparing my strong c5 to the weak cobras..Shouldnt I be comparing it to the strong ones????
same holds true for your comparison.
Oh and to add fuel to the fire. The fastest bone stock c6 in the country has ran a 12.2...Thats two tenths faster than the fastest stock cobra in the country(12.4)....
hers a link for you to go see what bone stock c5 mn6's from all over the country have ran bone stock
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...7&forum_id=108
This is not a top 10 list. just a random list that i created by Pming people and and having them respond to me and a thread i created.
Now you show me a list ( not a top 10 list) of what stock cobras run...I want you to prove to me how these stock LS1 vettes need all bolt ons and a cam as well as DR's to beat a car thats 4 tenths faster...
03-14-2006, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by 560SL
So, since I DOMINATED your sorry, misinformed *** in the Porsche argument, are you going to flame me with all your posts now? Hurts to be wrong doesn't it? Sorry if I make a positive post, but I guess it bothers you. I'm sorry I'm not as big a badass as you are on the street in my big bad vette. Get a life pal.
Oh, and if a stock 03 Cobra is running 13s, then the driver sucks. Period. I can make up stories about Fbodies/Vettes running 14s too if you'd like? Bench racers...ugh.
Oh, and if a stock 03 Cobra is running 13s, then the driver sucks. Period. I can make up stories about Fbodies/Vettes running 14s too if you'd like? Bench racers...ugh.
You can pm me and I will explain to you that a cobra isn't the same class as a corvette and I will explain to you that a vette is in the same class as the porsche. Since you don't seem to think so.
Back to the topic, Cobra's dont run 12.4-12.6 bone stock. Been to the track countless times, 12.8-13.0 is about right as far as being stock, now if your talking a set of DRs, hmmm, than possibly.
03-14-2006, 07:21 AM
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That's original. Mmm... where have I heard that before?
Yea, I happened to say that everyday in Highschool when it was considered fast, but I do know where you are going with it. Button it up lover boy and enjoy the thread.
Hows this for ya, 14.10's at 127.
03-14-2006, 07:42 AM
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Hey guys, I just wanted a heads up on how to beat a SVT Cobra, I didn't want a gang war.
Pacesetter LT's, Richmond 3.73......and maybe a "Wet" kit @ 150 shot from Nitrous Express.........will this formula work?
Pacesetter LT's, Richmond 3.73......and maybe a "Wet" kit @ 150 shot from Nitrous Express.........will this formula work?
03-14-2006, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Torque_Wrench
Hey guys, I just wanted a heads up on how to beat a SVT Cobra, I didn't want a gang war.
Pacesetter LT's, Richmond 3.73......and maybe a "Wet" kit @ 150 shot from Nitrous Express.........will this formula work?
Pacesetter LT's, Richmond 3.73......and maybe a "Wet" kit @ 150 shot from Nitrous Express.........will this formula work?
BTW I don't think you'll run into many stock ones tho.
03-14-2006, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Torque_Wrench
Hey guys, I just wanted a heads up on how to beat a SVT Cobra, I didn't want a gang war.
Pacesetter LT's, Richmond 3.73......and maybe a "Wet" kit @ 150 shot from Nitrous Express.........will this formula work?
Pacesetter LT's, Richmond 3.73......and maybe a "Wet" kit @ 150 shot from Nitrous Express.........will this formula work?
Hey man, what you have will take care of most you come across, I have not even run across a Kenne Bell/Whipple car.
03-14-2006, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Torque_Wrench
Hey guys, I just wanted a heads up on how to beat a SVT Cobra, I didn't want a gang war.
Pacesetter LT's, Richmond 3.73......and maybe a "Wet" kit @ 150 shot from Nitrous Express.........will this formula work?
Pacesetter LT's, Richmond 3.73......and maybe a "Wet" kit @ 150 shot from Nitrous Express.........will this formula work?
Your best bet, with a cobra or ANY CAR...is traction. It's hard to beat a setup you mentioned, if the car hooks well. Power matters but, not as much as traction. Atleast from a dig. Get some GOOD traction,...launch on your 150 shot, and race them ONLY from a dig. It's your best bet on the street, as MOST of these drivers with big power, can't lay it down, or don't posses the skill to put it down, regardless of car.
Race them from a dig,...you'll be alright for a while.