DriveATransAm

maybe t22, t25? t 20 something. i kinda laughed and asked if he meant a t20 (whatever he said) turbo...he said yes. i said why so small lol. im starting to wonder if its even his car. he makes it sound like its someone elses half the time....or someone else is doing all this work to it.

LSINA7

iTrader: (8)

I've never heard of a T20, maybe hes screwing with you? Just run him...

djsanchez2

iTrader: (14)

Makes no sense to me why he would go with a smaller turbo if he does have the real jap. engine as they come with the t25 or t28 stock, depending on year.

Garrett Turbo Sizes and Core Descriptions

T20, T25 - Garrett Conventional Floating Core Turbos
Garrett's T20 and T25 Turbos are compact, quick and powerful - very different from the slow starting Turbos of the 1970's and 80's. New technology has increased the efficiency of these Turbos, and their smaller size allows them to start up much faster. They deliver 5-15 psi to your intake (Turbos are set to 6psi before shipped out).

T25BB - Garrett T25 Dual Ball Bearing Center
Garrett's T25BB Turbo is the same size as the T25, but the T25BB (Dual Ball Bearing Center) Turbo is designed to reduce lag and improve durability. The T25BB can pump out more HP than the traditional T25, and the T25BB is perfect for Street use. You will definatley see a difference with a standard transmission when passing manuevers or making dramatic speed increases. The T25BB is designed for quick start-up from a rolling start (say going from 10 mph to 60 mph). Although the T25BB is slightly more expensive then the T20 and T25, if you're looking for a quicker start up time and more HP, then this is the one you want to go with.

TSI Turbo Kit Frequently Asked Questions:

1) How much horsepower can the Garrett T25 Produce?

The Garrett T25 is a turbocharger that comes stock on the second generation (1995-1999) Mitsubishi Eclipse Turbos, and makes 210hp, and on modified cars has made upwards of 300hp. It is a very capable turbo for a street car. The T25 does this with very well mannered driving and quick spool up time (especially with a Ball Bearing unit).

2) How much horsepower can the Garrett T20 Produce?

The Garrett T20 Turbocharger will produce about 15% horsepower less than the Garrett T25 given all the same modifications. The T20 shares the same great driving characteristcs as the T25 with quick spool, and good power.

slick1851

What some people are failing to see if the cars weight, they are very light so they dont need alot of power to be fast. Thats why you dont see alot of them over 400hp since 400hp 240SXs will go 11s with slicks and some what decent driver.

My freind went 12.8 on street tires with a stock T25, they pretty much max out around 280ish hp on a T25 from what ive seen in person not on the internet. Wich in a light weight car is good.


S13 is 89-94
S14 is 95-97
S15 is 98?- 2002 or 2001 I forgot when they stopped makign them.


S15 turbos are a ball bearing T28 garret wich is a cheap easy up grade and flows alot more that the standerd turbo. S15 also has NEO VVL wich is like vtec.......


My buddy had one he just sold, Hes running a TD06 "20Gturbo"(DSMs Run this) And AEM on stock cams. The car moved out his best pass befor the car was sold was around 11.9s if I rember right.

Dont knock these cars, they move out very well and there IRS isnt to bad outta the hole on a DR or a slick.....

DriveATransAm

well he wasnt at work today. i guess its his day off. his coworkers say hes full of **** and doesnt even own anything other than a honda. i said i dunno, he was talking some mad smack talk. i told them to call him and tell him to meet me at the spot at 9pm tomorrow with ANYTHING that he drives and i will race him. kids a stroke and prolly full of bs...or its not even his car.

first he wanted to race for slips. then he wanted to race for anything over 1,000. i told him be there, bring small money or stfu. guess we will see. im betting he doesnt show and is f ull of bs. a 11 second car on the track isnt usually an 11 second car on the street. luckily for me hes a stroke and probably cant drive on the street.

brad8266

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Lets see you run low 11's. 99.9% of ricers you will run into will not even come close to you. Tell him to put up the $$ or STFU.

DriveATransAm

i wouldnt be anywhere near low 11s on the street. least on a street tire . might be lucky to hit 11.9.

brad8266

iTrader: (23)

Ok with the amount of power you make to go low 11's you should roll race if you are worried about traction. The traction wont be so much of an issue and the power you make will be put to the ground.

DriveATransAm

im not worried about traction. im not even worried about a race that wont ever happen. i have street raced before. only once or twice though

Heatmaker

He's a Ricer, and he drives some hyped up Japanese junk. He shouldn't be a problem for you... most ricers just glamourize what they read in magazines and think thier cars can do the same.

98SuperSport

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a local one went 11.9s on only 330rwhp. quick car no doubt. his traction was very good too, not like most imports.


edit: it says 312whp/337wtq


check it out yourself
http://www.srgarage.com/Videos.htm

djsanchez2

iTrader: (14)

Any Results? Did he show?

Sparetire

Stock 240 is crap. It has a KA24 motor, 2.4L of NA fury LOL. Its a dog, bolt-ons dont even free up much HP.

The only ones to worry about are LS1 swaps and such, and the very common SR20DET swaps. Aluminum block and head DOHC 2.0L turbo that makes from about 200-250 HP at the crank depending on what Silvia its from. The SR20 bolts right into the chassis. Virtaully any yahoo with some tools could pull off that swap, and it makes for a sub 3000 pound car with low 200s HP at the crank and nice aggressive gearing and RWD. Pretty cool.

T25s suck and thats that. 2G DSM guys basicly hate their T25s. Some of them even upgrade to a 14B, which came stock on the 1G DSMs. You will very very rarely see 300WHP with that POS. Many guys go with the "Big 28" option, which is the T28 more or less but is identical to the hair dryer T25 in appearance. The 28 is much more like a 16G in terms of potential, so you might see mid-300 WHP on a nicely set-up car.

Probably the ultimate small turbo for those guys is the "Disco Potato" GT28RS turbo. Its got enough to the mid 300s, spools like a mother, a very nice turbo. But still not a powerhouse.

If that asshat is trying to get any of those turbos, you are going to humiliate him. Badly.

I bet he has nothing and he is just messing with you because you are into this. A lot of ricers think it makes sense to make thier car look fast and that we are crazy/stupid/rich for actually going fast.

Dig or roll does not matter unless its the (very unlikely) case that he is running like a GT30 turbo and trying to look stupid. I would guess that not the case since his IQ looks to be about room tempeture...in Celsius. He has a Stock KA24 and runs 15s.

DriveATransAm

well, actually i didnt show haha. i went out to dinner and didnt get out till after the time i told him to meet. would have been an hour late if i went there and i doubt he woulda stuck around that long. and i wasnt about to drive a half hour to the spot just to find that out. i will just bluff and say iw as there because i doubt he was. if he does say he was there ill say i was running late and got there after 10. i doubt he showed though. theres always next saturday

i did get my car from storage though. what a freakin beast. the magnum will run 13.2 warm on the street. i was able to launch the TA with little wheelspin from a stop light and it def. felt like a 12.20/11.9 pass. not bad for some junky 16" tires on asphalt with no burnout

blackhawk J

I used to think the s13 s14 silvias were cool, but man after seeing and talking to several owners at the strip I became convinced that the really good ones are really rare and most are just talking out their ***. All I saw were 14 sec times out of KA's with turbo upgrades and sr 20 swaps. Hell they even stripped the interiors to run those times. And this was a car club, there must have been 7 or 8, none were fast.

SDMForever

All I have to say is you have a good 97% chance of whoopin' his ***, and a 3% chance of him getting within a couple car lengths. Unless of course he has a good 50,000 dollars in IMPORTED parts. You should be able to tell if this kid has that kind of cash flow.

Sparetire

^50K would build a dedicated race car that would murder most of us.

It does not take much cash, it takes a lot of know-how. The parts are available in the states all over the place. JWT and Millen are two great US sources for instance. Half the shops I look to for DSM parts have SR20 stuff too.

This kid probably does not have the know-how.

LSINA7

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I thought so too. A local here just built a 500 + whp KA24 on stock internals. So maybe not.

MagikMan

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If he refers to it as the sylvia then it is probably a SR20DET. That puts them in the high 13's.... My good friend upgraded the turbo on his, and he ran a 8.7 @ 90 in the 1/8 if that helps. They have a hard time hookinga s they are drifting cars... they have quite a bit up top, and they can be built easily.

Sparetire

OK, maybe not then