410 awhp evo goes down
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410 awhp evo goes down
I raced a newer evo tonight. I didn't know much about his car before I raced it. there was word that it put out in the upper 300s range. I told him we could go from a dig if he wants to (I have sumitomos so it would be a major spin fest for me) but he decided to make it a little more fair and go from a 20 roll.
I had the car in first gear at 20 mph. 3rd beep we both took off. I immediatly took the lead but spun bad. it shifted into 2nd and the tail end swung out a bit as I lit up the tires. after I got traction I pulled on him up to 130 when I shut down and was about 4-5 cars ahead.
after we get back to the parking lot we shake hands and compliment eachothers cars (best race ive had so far) and he asked if my car run high 10s. im like lol no but I would hope for high 11s. he then said that his car laid down 410 awhp. I was a little surprised when he said this because I didnt expect to pull on him like that with that much power. I believe him though cause why would anyone inflate their power numbers after a loss?
twas a good race though. his car definitely hauls. I was very surprised how my car ran. this was one of the bigger dogs in the area. moving my way up the ladder
heres some pics of the evo:
http://www.e-rak.com/cody/gallery/album223
I had the car in first gear at 20 mph. 3rd beep we both took off. I immediatly took the lead but spun bad. it shifted into 2nd and the tail end swung out a bit as I lit up the tires. after I got traction I pulled on him up to 130 when I shut down and was about 4-5 cars ahead.
after we get back to the parking lot we shake hands and compliment eachothers cars (best race ive had so far) and he asked if my car run high 10s. im like lol no but I would hope for high 11s. he then said that his car laid down 410 awhp. I was a little surprised when he said this because I didnt expect to pull on him like that with that much power. I believe him though cause why would anyone inflate their power numbers after a loss?
twas a good race though. his car definitely hauls. I was very surprised how my car ran. this was one of the bigger dogs in the area. moving my way up the ladder
heres some pics of the evo:
http://www.e-rak.com/cody/gallery/album223
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thanks for the kind words guys.
yes he had a very nice evo. I would not mind owning the car. I also checked out the pics myself and noticed it was an evolution MR. any difference between the base model evos and the MRs?
I don't know what my rwhp numbers are but judging by how it has been handling some cars I would say 380-400 rwhp. the evo may have had more power but I guarentee I have MUCH better power under the curve. whenever I punch it its instant acceleration that throws ya back in the seat
when I go to the track with these tires Im gonna shoot for high 12s at like 113 lol. with drag radials I believe I'll hit my original goal I set for the car (to get into the 11s.)
yes he had a very nice evo. I would not mind owning the car. I also checked out the pics myself and noticed it was an evolution MR. any difference between the base model evos and the MRs?
I don't know what my rwhp numbers are but judging by how it has been handling some cars I would say 380-400 rwhp. the evo may have had more power but I guarentee I have MUCH better power under the curve. whenever I punch it its instant acceleration that throws ya back in the seat
when I go to the track with these tires Im gonna shoot for high 12s at like 113 lol. with drag radials I believe I'll hit my original goal I set for the car (to get into the 11s.)
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Nice kill on a nice looking Evo! There is not really any difference in power between a GSR or a MR Evo aside from the MR having a 6spd and the GSR a 5spd.
The pics are hard to tell what he has done but he has to have an aftermarket turbo as you can see an external wastegate. At sea level a 410whp EVO would be running mid to low 11's and trapping 120+. He might be sandbagging or maybe he cant drive that well. Or he might have a bad tune with the new turbo. Who knows, all that matters is you were ahead at the end
The pics are hard to tell what he has done but he has to have an aftermarket turbo as you can see an external wastegate. At sea level a 410whp EVO would be running mid to low 11's and trapping 120+. He might be sandbagging or maybe he cant drive that well. Or he might have a bad tune with the new turbo. Who knows, all that matters is you were ahead at the end
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we're about 500 ft above sea level here so its not high elevation. he seemed to take a while to spool thats where I gained alot of my ground. after he spooled I didn't pull nearly as hard. I don't think hes the greatest driver. we actually raced twice, the first time he missed third and I beat him by a bit more. I don't think he was sandbagging because he did turn up the boost before we ran. his passenger said he was going all out.
I have a date with a 480 rwhp bolt on 99 WS6 with a 150 shot! now THATS a car I wouldn't mind losing to.
I have a date with a 480 rwhp bolt on 99 WS6 with a 150 shot! now THATS a car I wouldn't mind losing to.
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Well if you were racing from a roll and it took awhile for him to spool than either his tune is bad or he cant drive. It takes a very big turbo on an Evo to have it suffer that bad from turbo lag. Either way nice kill and good luck with the WS6
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Thats the RNR mani / turbo kit. I hardly ever see people making good power with that guy. Can't tell what snail he has on it, but it sounds like a 3076 if he claimed low 400 whp. Most 35's will make that power on pump gas, but I doubt he would plan on racing without comming prepared (on race gas) unless he's trying to set you up for a race.
Nice kill
Nice kill
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It seems like the guy isn't the best driver, not many Evo/STI guys will pass up a race from dig and want to run from a roll. He may have just been a little to overconfident in himself though. Definitely a nice kill.
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Nice kill on a nice looking Evo! There is not really any difference in power between a GSR or a MR Evo aside from the MR having a 6spd and the GSR a 5spd.
The pics are hard to tell what he has done but he has to have an aftermarket turbo as you can see an external wastegate. At sea level a 410whp EVO would be running mid to low 11's and trapping 120+. He might be sandbagging or maybe he cant drive that well. Or he might have a bad tune with the new turbo. Who knows, all that matters is you were ahead at the end
The pics are hard to tell what he has done but he has to have an aftermarket turbo as you can see an external wastegate. At sea level a 410whp EVO would be running mid to low 11's and trapping 120+. He might be sandbagging or maybe he cant drive that well. Or he might have a bad tune with the new turbo. Who knows, all that matters is you were ahead at the end
1) It's not an MR. Evo MRs don't come in yellow nor have a sunroof.
2) It's an 2003-2004 EVO (only years they made yellow).
3) He had an upgraded turbo and if it put down 410awhp, it would beat you if you had 410rwhp simply because it's lighter.
I think his car wasn't tuned properly and he was a bad driver.
Good kill none the less!
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Originally Posted by NIevo
Well if you were racing from a roll and it took awhile for him to spool than either his tune is bad or he cant drive. It takes a very big turbo on an Evo to have it suffer that bad from turbo lag.
I talked to the evo owner last night and he said he was catching me ever so slightly after I pulled ahead. then we kinda accelerated evenly till I let off at 130.
I don't think he was lying or it was a dog. my car is no slouch.
just cause it isnt an LS1 doesnt make it slow
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I think a lot of people here (evo owners included) underestimate the LT1. I mean a lot of people have the idea that LS1s are the only FBodies worth owning simply because the respond a little better to bolt ons. At the level of messing with displacement, different stalls, built transmissions, etc (all of which Zig has) you're talking about a whole different animal.
Evos with turbo upgrades are indeed quick, but people with saying only "really" big turbo evos suffer from lag are full of it. The stock car has a good deal of lag with just the 16G on it. The ones I've driven stock lagged til about 3200rpm or so. So if he has an upgrade I'd imagine it'd have a little more. Also, this is a roll race, a race from a stop (or on the track for that matter) would yeild very different results. I've ridden in the OP's car as well as worked for a shop who does dyno days and work on Evos (350Z/G35s and STi/WRXs too -Altered Atmosphere) and I think it's totally possibly the Evo owner's car is in decent tune and got beat fair and square.
Evos with turbo upgrades are indeed quick, but people with saying only "really" big turbo evos suffer from lag are full of it. The stock car has a good deal of lag with just the 16G on it. The ones I've driven stock lagged til about 3200rpm or so. So if he has an upgrade I'd imagine it'd have a little more. Also, this is a roll race, a race from a stop (or on the track for that matter) would yeild very different results. I've ridden in the OP's car as well as worked for a shop who does dyno days and work on Evos (350Z/G35s and STi/WRXs too -Altered Atmosphere) and I think it's totally possibly the Evo owner's car is in decent tune and got beat fair and square.
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Well as with any turbo car there will be a certain amount of lag but alot of the outcomes depend on the driver. If you know what you are doing and where your boost comes on and where to be at, the "lag" shouldn't be an issue. Unless of course your running a turbo the size of your steering wheel
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A 410awhp EVO should undoubtedly run in the 11s@116-118 with a decent launch. Funny you said power under the curve before because Ive really strayed away from uprading my turbo at the moment because a lot of these kits they have out make 30whp peak more but you lose a ton under the curve which is most important when roll racing.
Im still on the stock turbo/22psi at around 380whp but my midrange is incredible with instant response. In fact, Ive raced 2 400whp LS1s and neither could pull me from roll-ons purely because of my powerband. One of the guys is on this board.
I believe you pulled the guy no doubt. That 383 has probably got a mean mid range too!
Im still on the stock turbo/22psi at around 380whp but my midrange is incredible with instant response. In fact, Ive raced 2 400whp LS1s and neither could pull me from roll-ons purely because of my powerband. One of the guys is on this board.
I believe you pulled the guy no doubt. That 383 has probably got a mean mid range too!