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Just accept that many people don't like certain types of cars, its not that hard to understand

No ones talking about liking one, its to understand them. Does that mean you have to like a 4cyc thats turbo. NO! It doesnt but there fast cars and they can be made to be very very fast.
Its better for you knwo to know about them so you wont be such a close minded DINOSOUR@!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Doesnt it **** you off when people call Fbodys REDNECK HICK cars? I really dont like hearing that. And its ingnorant to say about a class of cars so it goes both ways. So stop making fun of 4cyc just becuase there motors are small, you sound like your uneducated.
If turbos are so gay" why are so many people going with TURBO SETUPs on LS1s
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Its called project laser, you can google it they have a site.
When he says gutted in that fwd car, I mean its gutted. There is nothing left to take out.
I dont think it even has rear brakes anymore, check out the site.
Now thats a super extreme car, so lets not even compare it to any dsm since no one on the street is going to be that light.
16Gs need to be tuned very well, there are tons of people in the low 12s and alot in the 11s. Some people have gone low 11s but this is very hard to do, most avg dsms will never do that.
Pretty much rule of thumb is a Big16G car, with full supporting mods will go low 12s, and with very very good tuning and a driver you can hit high 11s.
If its a half assed setup you looking at high 12s, also there is somthing important we have to adress is the driving. You would think AWD is the best for 60foots but its not.
It isnt easy getting past 1.7 you need good tires and some sus mods, most people go with AGXs and adjust the back very stiff and leave the front soft......The car sqauts to hard and looses traction for getting outta the hole well.




