450rwhp 350z vs bolt on Z06
05-31-2006, 03:32 PM
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i've seen the videos, the bolton z06 gets walked. the second z06 has haeads cam? i saw his mods list in his sig. it said, 2002 EB Z06
Fast 90/90
Callaway Cold Air
Dynnatech long tube no cats
Street Density HP tuners tuning
Some internal work done
i guess the "internal work" could be a head's cam setup, but im guessing he just has a built bottom end? im sure he would mention a cam and heads if he had them.
Fast 90/90
Callaway Cold Air
Dynnatech long tube no cats
Street Density HP tuners tuning
Some internal work done
i guess the "internal work" could be a head's cam setup, but im guessing he just has a built bottom end? im sure he would mention a cam and heads if he had them.
05-31-2006, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 25psi
As good as you feel.
No actually my point is, people coming on hear saying they can spank twin turbo 350z's by 4-5 cars with lid,intake and exhaust very minute bolt ons. Just aint possible. Your not going to pull a 350z at 8psi with simple bolt ons(ls1's). Most trap between 112-116. Now you see what a Z06 with heads and cams does. It barely pulled on one on 9psi of boost.
No actually my point is, people coming on hear saying they can spank twin turbo 350z's by 4-5 cars with lid,intake and exhaust very minute bolt ons. Just aint possible. Your not going to pull a 350z at 8psi with simple bolt ons(ls1's). Most trap between 112-116. Now you see what a Z06 with heads and cams does. It barely pulled on one on 9psi of boost.
Here's a nice reference starting point:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1132866
With that said, I do agree that an FI 350Z should definitely be faster than your basic exhaust/lid LS1, unless it's gutted or something.
05-31-2006, 05:49 PM
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Ok, I just watched the Video and first off the Tq #'s seem low for the Z06 and the mods listed @430/377. But anyhow the 350Z has 430/420 so yeah at those numbers of course its going to be a good race. Regardless, I wouldn't say the Z06 "barely pulled" it. After the last shift it looked like the Z06 was starting to run away from it but than they shut down. Good race, but the bolt-on & twin turbo'd 350Z goes down to the NA Z06. There can be only one Z. 
05-31-2006, 05:57 PM
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This is a different vid though.
I've already posted a vid of a head and cam z06 vs a turbo 350z and guess who won. It was a close race though, but the 350 edged him out by 1 car at 155mph.
You must remember 80% of the turbo 350z's are running stock boost levels, which do not exceed 7psi of boost, some a tad bit more. You haven't come across one with boost surpassing 15psi, then well be talking about a 550-600+rwhp z.
I've raced plenty of Z06's on HPD(houstonperformancedriving) and most have them have been real close(half a car or less) some I've even beat. You bring a bolt on z06 and cam and we should be about even at my 10psi.
I've already posted a vid of a head and cam z06 vs a turbo 350z and guess who won. It was a close race though, but the 350 edged him out by 1 car at 155mph.
You must remember 80% of the turbo 350z's are running stock boost levels, which do not exceed 7psi of boost, some a tad bit more. You haven't come across one with boost surpassing 15psi, then well be talking about a 550-600+rwhp z.
I've raced plenty of Z06's on HPD(houstonperformancedriving) and most have them have been real close(half a car or less) some I've even beat. You bring a bolt on z06 and cam and we should be about even at my 10psi.
05-31-2006, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 25psi
This is a different vid though.
I've already posted a vid of a head and cam z06 vs a turbo 350z and guess who won. It was a close race though, but the 350 edged him out by 1 car at 155mph.
You must remember 80% of the turbo 350z's are running stock boost levels, which do not exceed 7psi of boost, some a tad bit more. You haven't come across one with boost surpassing 15psi, then well be talking about a 550-600+rwhp z.
I've raced plenty of Z06's on HPD(houstonperformancedriving) and most have them have been real close(half a car or less) some I've even beat. You bring a bolt on z06 and cam and we should be about even at my 10psi.
I've already posted a vid of a head and cam z06 vs a turbo 350z and guess who won. It was a close race though, but the 350 edged him out by 1 car at 155mph.
You must remember 80% of the turbo 350z's are running stock boost levels, which do not exceed 7psi of boost, some a tad bit more. You haven't come across one with boost surpassing 15psi, then well be talking about a 550-600+rwhp z.
I've raced plenty of Z06's on HPD(houstonperformancedriving) and most have them have been real close(half a car or less) some I've even beat. You bring a bolt on z06 and cam and we should be about even at my 10psi.
Stock boost levels on a Z......isn't that an oxymoron???
05-31-2006, 06:05 PM
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Well of course a TURBO'D 350Z is *capable* of beating a H/C Z06 if the boost levels are high enough. That goes with most any sports cars when you add FI. It all depends on the particular setups of each car and of course the driver. So they are capable of 550-600+rwhp. So what. You know what FI Z06's are capable of?? All depends on how much you want to spend and mod and it goes back to the old saying you can make anything fast. The Z06 will always be ahead of the game though, stock for stock and mod for mod....by ALOT. 
05-31-2006, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by CTSVSL65AMG
PS...how long until your motor goes boom boom? I have 37K on my 393whp LS6 and I have changed the oil a few times...
05-31-2006, 06:11 PM
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hmm, doubt that....my buddy road races the heck out of his 2002 Z06 and its got 88K on it with 0 problems, the LS series motor is probably the most reliable american built motor about there, definetly the most relaible 400+hp one. Somehow I am supremely confident your VQ35 isn't going to make it that long. I know a thing or two about FI VQ's.. I had a stillen SC'd G35 coupe for 2 years.
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I also know a guy with a maggie Blown Z06 with 85k miles on it and now he is juicing on top of that and zero problems. He says the car is solid as a rock.
05-31-2006, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by CTSVSL65AMG
hmm, doubt that....my buddy road races the heck out of his 2002 Z06 and its got 88K on it with 0 problems, the LS series motor is probably the most reliable american built motor about there, definetly the most relaible 400+hp one. Somehow I am supremely confident your VQ35 isn't going to make it that long. I know a thing or two about FI VQ's.. I had a stillen SC'd G35 coupe for 2 years.
05-31-2006, 06:31 PM
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My point.....We will be enjoying driving our stock well running high performing LS6's for miles and years after your bloated VQ has weezed its last boosted breath. The bootom line to for success...start with the best foundation to build from. And I think we all know what that is.
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First of all, internally, my car was not intended to be turbocharged. So in essence, where comparing a na/forced induction motor to a na motor. Wise choice 
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So I guess nobody here has built motors right? So if something does happen to the motor, what am I suppose to do? Just gives me more of a reason to spend more money to make it faster.
.So I guess nobody here has built motors right? So if something does happen to the motor, what am I suppose to do? Just gives me more of a reason to spend more money to make it faster.
05-31-2006, 06:56 PM
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This is a different vid though.
I've already posted a vid of a head and cam z06 vs a turbo 350z and guess who won. It was a close race though, but the 350 edged him out by 1 car at 155mph.
You must remember 80% of the turbo 350z's are running stock boost levels, which do not exceed 7psi of boost, some a tad bit more. You haven't come across one with boost surpassing 15psi, then well be talking about a 550-600+rwhp z.
I've raced plenty of Z06's on HPD(houstonperformancedriving) and most have them have been real close(half a car or less) some I've even beat. You bring a bolt on z06 and cam and we should be about even at my 10psi.
I've already posted a vid of a head and cam z06 vs a turbo 350z and guess who won. It was a close race though, but the 350 edged him out by 1 car at 155mph.
You must remember 80% of the turbo 350z's are running stock boost levels, which do not exceed 7psi of boost, some a tad bit more. You haven't come across one with boost surpassing 15psi, then well be talking about a 550-600+rwhp z.
I've raced plenty of Z06's on HPD(houstonperformancedriving) and most have them have been real close(half a car or less) some I've even beat. You bring a bolt on z06 and cam and we should be about even at my 10psi.
i can't wait to run your 10 psi TT350z in my C5 with my ETP heads, FAST 90/90 and G5X4 cam......
05-31-2006, 07:38 PM
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can somebody ban 25psi? every post i've ever read that you made doesnt fit this forum. why are you on here if you just want to bash lsx owners? we know a tt350z can be fast.. hell, anything can be fast. i've seen vids where a honda civic runs in the 10's. would i drive that car? hell no. why? because it's effing gay. we are on this board because we like late model cheverolet sports cars, not imports that rely on boost to save their *** from being eaten up. if you want to bash our cars, find an import forum to do it on. have a nice day.
05-31-2006, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Sunset'01Z
can somebody ban 25psi? every post i've ever read that you made doesnt fit this forum. why are you on here if you just want to bash lsx owners? we know a tt350z can be fast.. hell, anything can be fast. i've seen vids where a honda civic runs in the 10's. would i drive that car? hell no. why? because it's effing gay. we are on this board because we like late model cheverolet sports cars, not imports that rely on boost to save their *** from being eaten up. if you want to bash our cars, find an import forum to do it on. have a nice day.
1) any LS series motor
2) Chevy trucks and SUV's.
3) GTO's, Corvette's, Camaro's, Firebirds
4) Holden vehicles
5) LS FWD cars
6) Hybrids and hot rods
I am not taking up for 25psi dude, just letting you know we might not all be here for late model chevrolet sports cars. I'm not here for that.