2006 EVO MR Edition - death to me...but not easily
06-07-2006, 09:37 AM
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My coworkers grandson has an 06 evo, is there only one kind of a few different models? I caught him on a highway once, but when traffic finally let off I had to turn. Im just wondering if every 06 evo is capable of high 12's, or just a certain special edition or something?
06-07-2006, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by 93ChevExt5.7
Dude, just showing that trucks don't always mean slow - slick1851, I'm sure your a cool dude - I'm not trying to start anything. Man, just showing what others are talking about - EVOs going into the 12s. Just adding that so can trucks.
I only mentioned "STOCK EVO" cause I'm sure there are others with modded EVOs ready to come back with "not mine!!!"
I only mentioned "STOCK EVO" cause I'm sure there are others with modded EVOs ready to come back with "not mine!!!"
Stop contradicting yourself. One hand you say evos are not that fast, but then you give your truck props for not being slow. But you still lost.
06-07-2006, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Domestic Demon
Did I say they were "slow"?? No, I didn't, I just said they "weren't that fast". Meaning they aren't nearly as fast as their 1/4 mile and 0-60 numbers suggest. They only run low 13's with a hard launch - if you launch them normally, they will run high 13's. Its not pure power thats getting them down the track in 13 seconds, its the hard AWD luanch that does it. hence the reason VIII's only trap at about 102 MPH.
Drive both an LS1 and an Evo, the LS1 will feel a hell of a lot faster, because it really is.
Drive both an LS1 and an Evo, the LS1 will feel a hell of a lot faster, because it really is.
Its called torque. Torque sometimes can make you feel faster than what your actually going.
06-07-2006, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by 25psi
Stop contradicting yourself. One hand you say evos are not that fast, but then you give your truck props for not being slow. But you still lost.
Finally someone who understands.
06-07-2006, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 25psi
Stop contradicting yourself. One hand you say evos are not that fast, but then you give your truck props for not being slow. But you still lost.
If I thought they were slow I wouldn't have sent an "invitation" to this guy to race.....dork
06-07-2006, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by leftme4dead
My coworkers grandson has an 06 evo, is there only one kind of a few different models? I caught him on a highway once, but when traffic finally let off I had to turn. Im just wondering if every 06 evo is capable of high 12's, or just a certain special edition or something?
06-08-2006, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Domestic Demon
Evos are not that fast. They run low 13's with a perfect launch, high 12's once in a blue moon under optimal conditions, and mid 13's most of the time. With a crappy launch (say from idle) they run high 13's, not impressive at all. The AWD launch is the only reason they are so quick through the 1/4 mile.
Im not going to argue that EVOs arent that fast stock because they arent. However the 2006's arent blue moon 12's. Theres been numerous guys hitting 12.9s with them and many hit 12s with just a catback. More than I would have thought anyway.
Oh yeah, what do F-bodies run in the 1/4 with a crappy launch?
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06-22-2006, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by NIevo
They all have the same powr level. The RS is the fastest just because it is the lightest. Then the GSR because its a 5-spd. The MR is the slowest because it has about the same weight as the GSR but you have to shift an extra time cause of the 6-spd. They are all capable of a high 12 though with a good driver.
http://forums.beyond.ca/showthread.php?threadid=68819
No disrespect meant NIevo, but that things is scarrrrryyyyy fast!!!!!
06-22-2006, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Electric
Oh yeah, what do F-bodies run in the 1/4 with a crappy launch?
well i guess it just depends on how bad the launch is, if you spin through third probably somewhere in the 15s maybe 16s. but with a bog i still go 13.6s, tourque is forgiving.
06-22-2006, 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Electric
Im not going to argue that EVOs arent that fast stock because they arent. However the 2006's arent blue moon 12's. Theres been numerous guys hitting 12.9s with them and many hit 12s with just a catback. More than I would have thought anyway.
Oh yeah, what do F-bodies run in the 1/4 with a crappy launch?
Oh yeah, what do F-bodies run in the 1/4 with a crappy launch?
LS1's don't need 6,000RPM clutch drops in order to run low 13's. Hell, you can ease off from idle and still run a high 13. Its called low end torque, something you 4 banger guys don't have a clue about
I also don't care about any Evos running 12.9's with "just a catback". I was talking about stock, and very, very few run high 12's stock.
06-22-2006, 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Domestic Demon
I see you're trying to be a wiseass, but ironically you've failed.
LS1's don't need 6,000RPM clutch drops in order to run low 13's. Hell, you can ease off from idle and still run a high 13. Its called low end torque, something you 4 banger guys don't have a clue about
I also don't care about any Evos running 12.9's with "just a catback". I was talking about stock, and very, very few run high 12's stock.
LS1's don't need 6,000RPM clutch drops in order to run low 13's. Hell, you can ease off from idle and still run a high 13. Its called low end torque, something you 4 banger guys don't have a clue about
I also don't care about any Evos running 12.9's with "just a catback". I was talking about stock, and very, very few run high 12's stock.
Also, there is a stock limiter on EVOs at 5000rpm, so you cant launch any higher than 5000 unless youve been flashed.
I have plenty of clue about low end torque actually as Im not a pro-import domestic basher who doesnt understand how things work. I guess Im not the import owner stereotype youve picked me out to be. My car makes pretty good low end for what 4cyl turbo and Im more than satisfied with it. If i wanted some low end torque Id go by a turbo diesel stump puller.
BTW, I was talking about stock EVOs running 12s, not just ones with catbacks. It's actually becoming not so crazy to happen on the 2006s. The 2003-2004s I dont think its ever happened but on the 2006 there has been numerous already so its not a big phenomenon. Oh and who cares about that because who leaves an F-body or an EVO stock? 5%?
06-23-2006, 09:46 AM
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03-04 EVO 8 running high 12's is nearly impossible, 05 Evo 8 running high 12's stock is once in a blue moon.
But 06 Evo 9 running high 12's completely stock easily possible as long as you crack 1.9 or better 60feet. I have seen it done before and many on the evo forums have posted there stock times to prove it. They are stronger mostly because of bit better turbo and Mivec tech.
High 11's are done with just turboback, MBC, Flash. higher octane
No BS
But 06 Evo 9 running high 12's completely stock easily possible as long as you crack 1.9 or better 60feet. I have seen it done before and many on the evo forums have posted there stock times to prove it. They are stronger mostly because of bit better turbo and Mivec tech.
High 11's are done with just turboback, MBC, Flash. higher octane
No BS
06-23-2006, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by errelevant
03-04 EVO 8 running high 12's is nearly impossible, 05 Evo 8 running high 12's stock is once in a blue moon.
But 06 Evo 9 running high 12's completely stock easily possible as long as you crack 1.9 or better 60feet. I have seen it done before and many on the evo forums have posted there stock times to prove it. They are stronger mostly because of bit better turbo and Mivec tech.
High 11's are done with just turboback, MBC, Flash. higher octane
No BS
But 06 Evo 9 running high 12's completely stock easily possible as long as you crack 1.9 or better 60feet. I have seen it done before and many on the evo forums have posted there stock times to prove it. They are stronger mostly because of bit better turbo and Mivec tech.
High 11's are done with just turboback, MBC, Flash. higher octane
No BS
06-23-2006, 09:52 AM
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yeah I have a friend that ran 12.7 @ 109 just with catback exhaust on pump gas with his EVO 9.
It's possible to run 11's because they do about 330-350 to the wheels with Turboback, MBC, flash on pump and +20 ~30 more hp on race gas. AWD + 3150 curb weight makes it very possible.
It's possible to run 11's because they do about 330-350 to the wheels with Turboback, MBC, flash on pump and +20 ~30 more hp on race gas. AWD + 3150 curb weight makes it very possible.
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06-23-2006, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 25psi
Torque sometimes can make you feel faster than what your actually going.
06-24-2006, 01:47 AM
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Drew, whose IX u ride in?
Tom's stock turbo'd 05 ran dead even with my Trans Am up to 140ish ( I was N/A and b4 heads)BTW....from a roll. I ****** love those cars...if I could afford a IX and didnt already have a daily driver, I'd have one.
06-24-2006, 10:13 AM
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Its hard to tell how fast a car is by feel. If anyone has ridden in say a 1.8T A4 or Jetta or Golf, then they know what I mean. The car has a great slug of torque right at like 2000RPM. For what it is, its a lot of torque. Feels like the thing is taking off. But the power band is pretty low. You dont make any of that torque high up. So you have to shift a lot to keep it on boil. So while everytime you get back into it you feel a decent shove, your not actually very fast at all. Much slower than say a S2000. The S2000 does not have that slug of torque. It has like a spitwad of torque. But it pulls for a long time. So it does not feel faster than a 1.8T (IMHO) but it is.
The real solution of course is to make a lot of torque for a long time through the rev band. Hello free-breathing high bore V8 This is why a lot of those big blocks are so damn mean. A lot of them rev effectively to like 7500 making torque and then HP all the way up. They make nasty power and torque from like 2K. So not only is there a huge shove, the shove happens for a long time.
The real solution of course is to make a lot of torque for a long time through the rev band. Hello free-breathing high bore V8
This is why a lot of those big blocks are so damn mean. A lot of them rev effectively to like 7500 making torque and then HP all the way up. They make nasty power and torque from like 2K. So not only is there a huge shove, the shove happens for a long time.