eh Id have to see that to believe it. We're talking about pushing air through a 58mm tb, a stock HO lower intake, and e7te heads, then don't forget 4 cats afterwards and a set of mufflers. That engine isn't flowing nearly as much air as mine or your engines, so 6lbs would make a hell of alot more power on our cars then his, 6lbs or not, you can only force so much through the stock stuff, and if its untuned, forget about it. For an untuned car the kill sounds very accurate, for a tuned one it sounds like a crappy driver.

 

All I am saying is what the major companies claim they dyno. Usually their claims are well-founded. Hell, a bone stock NA 5.0 is low 14's with a good driver. Just b/c my fully built car is also 14's doenst mean anything to the contrary. I am running a 330CFM carb on it, lmao. (only 2 barrels of a 4 barrel 670).

Seriously though, a blown 5.0 should be low 13's without a problem if its in good shape and the driver isnt a total loser.

 

Alright stang, you know its all good with the burn, but im going to have to slightly disagree with you here bud.

From what I understand, Stock fox bodies with the manuel 5.0 run mid to high 14's correct?

( all these times are average and for the sake of argument )
I found them here

0-60 1/4
1993 Ford Mustang Cobra 5.90 14.50
1992 Ford Mustang LX 5.0 6.20 14.80
1990 Ford Mustang LX 5.0 6.40 14.90

Now lets say the S/c cuts of a near full second.
6 Lbs of Boost with a Nice tune, and its totally possible.

That would make that at best, a good clean race.
But that fact that its untuned and god knows what else, gives the barely modded LT1 a great chance.

Thats all Im saying.

 

My friends car: 89 beat to **** LX 5.0 with pullies, CAI, 3.55's(or 3.73's, we arent sure but we know it had gears when he got it), exhaust (shorties,X-pipe,flows).5-speed

My old car: 95 TA, good shape but high miles (no smoke, etc though), Moroso CAI,A4, 2.73.

The race 20-60 (I know, shitty, but hell, we were in a bad area

I jumped him and he nailed it, I never shook him, I jumped 1.5 cars due to hitting it before him and thats how it stayed, he said I pulled 1-3 feet, but I never saw it, to my eyes, he stayed glued where he was.

I cant see how with 80whp more he wouldnt smoke my ***. 6psi should easily get 280-300whp out of a 5.0 ****, they got 500whp out of a STOCK 5.0 with a hellion turbo (they blew headgaskets in the process, it was a hail-merry attempt in MMFF).

All said, heads, cam,exhaust, gears, etc. and I still run 14.4, so you guys might have something and its all just a bunch of 5.0 guys jacking themselves off and lying to the rest of us.

 

thats all fine and well, but its getting kinda old with everything being about comparing this car to that car, when we don't know for sure the mods or the driver skill.

 

The 5.0 ran like it should, just bolting on a blower would not net any where near 300 rwhp, just for ex. in Muscle Mustang and fast fords Jan '06 they bolted on a powerdyne XB-1A supercharger to a BONE stock AUTO 95 GT, running 9lbs of boost and it made...wait for it... a whopping 245 RWHP and 305 RWT (stock the car made 177 whp and 245 tq -dynojet), although I love mustangs and they can be made very fast, just bolting on a blower to a stock 5.0 and it will still get waxed by stock LS1's and most LT1's....

 

So...I guess when I get my combo running right again I will be eating blown 5.0s for breakfast

 

So what does a stock lt1 automatic with 2.73 gears run at the track on average?

I am not talking about the best times ever...I am talking about average times...such as most stock ls1 's will run mid 13's

I thought it would be about mid to low 14's at best? So a damn cat-back and CAI will slash off almost a second? I think not. those mods together will be worth about 20-30 horsepower...2 to 3 tenths. Thats why I said probably a 14 second car...high 13's on a good day, but very unlikely.
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No way in hell it is a mid 13 second car...that is what a stock ls1 automatic would run with those gears...maybe even slower.

 

The point is, we tied and he was NA with MINOR bolt-ons...

 

I would say 13.8-14.2
With nice tires and just gears, mid 13's.
3.42's are a night and day difference.

On a stock LT1 that runs high 13's, a nice Catback and intake should aid in a couple tenths, bringing it to mid 13's.

So, the mods dont help the LT1?



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My 95 LT1 ran a 13.89 stock, and i spun on the 60 foot. Many M6's run mid 13's all day.
Yes, some LT1's have run low 14's. Many LS1's have too.

1993 and 94 A4 LT1's were the slowest due to the older tuning and other things. 95-97 Lt1's knock off 13's all day long. Many members on here will tell you the same thing.

Ultra, you seem very Pro-Ls1. And the funny thing is, this is between a 5.0 and LT1, not a LS1.


I agree. I like those Fox Bodies and man they can move when modded right, but this is a different case.

 

they help of coarse.

I didnt think a stock lt1 automatic with 2.73 gears and just exhaust and cai was a mid 13 second car...maybe im just crazy.

many m6's run mid 13's all day? The fastest time I know of that has ever been recorded was like 13.4 ...that is far from the norm. 13.8-13.9 is what I almost ALWAYS see from stock lt1 m6 cars.

I am not just pro ls1...I like them all. I just disagree with how fast you think they are...its just my opinion.

I am not really pro anything right now especially...my damn car is in shambles.

 

There are SO many members on here with LT1's running mid 13's stock or close to it, and they aren't freaks.

And thats just what it is, your opinion.

 

$500 for your engine / tranny b/c my motor is obviously not cutting it.

 

ok...wow. than I guess lt1=ls1 then.

You learn something new every day.

 

an lt1 with tires can run 13.6ish with a good driver, but drag radials aren't stock. stock its 13.8-14.2 on average. Mine ran 13.42@103 with lts, catback, cai and tires. That's without powershifting and with my subs/amp in the back, along with shitty nittos and a crap 60'. Powershifting it'll trap 105.5, which is enough for 12s on a better set of tires.

my old 94 a4 ran 13.9@101 with just a dynomax bullet resonator and no muffler, deleted cat, free mods. That was it! had !rear seats, !jack/spare and no subs though.

 

just what I thought...thanks for the glimpse of reality.

 

Here ya go.




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He ran a 13.9 with an A4, I ran a 13.89 with an A4, both 2.73's.
We both agree thats the slowest combination an LT1 can have.

Yet, you look at that and label all LT1's like anything besides that isn't the norm?
Were talking about the slowest versions here.
I could get you 50 track times of stock LS1's with the A4 and 2.73's running near the same times, give or take 2-4 tenths.

Yes the LS1 is a better, more powerful motor that breathes better and has better tech. So?


You my boy, are as sly as a snake.

 

think what you want

 

Most are closer to mid 14s than high 14s from what I seen.
Reguardless, just a gear swap on a 5.0 puts those things into the 13s. I've had two friends do it. Those 3.08s aren't worth a ****. Same as the 2.73s in those a4 fbodies.

It just depends on the setup. foxbodies are faster than people take them for. I just think it depends on the combos. Lots of fast fox bodies here.