350z vs 06 c6, bolt on cobra 100 shot and 04 cobra with bolt ons
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Originally Posted by necrocannibal
Full bolt ons, .50 trim @ 21 psi.
They are impressive, but I do prefer my T/A over my stage 2 SRT-4.
Just watched the vidz, the cobra pulled away as good as you did on the C6. And what gear was the C6 in? 4th
350z is a nice car, but they just don't impress me. That is a good chunk of change in that car. Alot of cash for mediocre performance.
Just my .02
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A 350z at 9 psi can pull any stock domesitc car there is besides a c6 z06 vette or a ford gt.
Lets look at stock numbers. 300hp 300ftlb of torque(only 25hp short of ls1). This is a mid 13 sec car at 104-105 mph. About the same as a stock ls1(ls1 still a bit faster).
My twin 350z ran a 116 trap at 7 psi of boost with a stock exhaust.
If you want to talk about pathetic, the new gt500 mustang runs slower than my 350z did at 8 psi.
Ive already shown what a twin turbo z can do. Ive walked modded c5 z06, camaros, evo's, srt's, viper(stock) etc...
Lets look at stock numbers. 300hp 300ftlb of torque(only 25hp short of ls1). This is a mid 13 sec car at 104-105 mph. About the same as a stock ls1(ls1 still a bit faster).
My twin 350z ran a 116 trap at 7 psi of boost with a stock exhaust.
If you want to talk about pathetic, the new gt500 mustang runs slower than my 350z did at 8 psi.
Ive already shown what a twin turbo z can do. Ive walked modded c5 z06, camaros, evo's, srt's, viper(stock) etc...
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Originally Posted by 25psi
A 350z at 9 psi can pull any stock domesitc car there is besides a c6 z06 vette or a ford gt.
Lets look at stock numbers. 300hp 300ftlb of torque(only 25hp short of ls1). This is a mid 13 sec car at 104-105 mph. About the same as a stock ls1(ls1 still a bit faster).
My twin 350z ran a 116 trap at 7 psi of boost with a stock exhaust.
If you want to talk about pathetic, the new gt500 mustang runs slower than my 350z did at 8 psi.
Ive already shown what a twin turbo z can do. Ive walked modded c5 z06, camaros, evo's, srt's, viper(stock) etc...
Lets look at stock numbers. 300hp 300ftlb of torque(only 25hp short of ls1). This is a mid 13 sec car at 104-105 mph. About the same as a stock ls1(ls1 still a bit faster).
My twin 350z ran a 116 trap at 7 psi of boost with a stock exhaust.
If you want to talk about pathetic, the new gt500 mustang runs slower than my 350z did at 8 psi.
Ive already shown what a twin turbo z can do. Ive walked modded c5 z06, camaros, evo's, srt's, viper(stock) etc...
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Originally Posted by Ubergeist
If you had a good tune you would trap over 120. For sure.
They are impressive, but I do prefer my T/A over my stage 2 SRT-4.
Just watched the vidz, the cobra pulled away as good as you did on the C6. And what gear was the C6 in? 4th
350z is a nice car, but they just don't impress me. That is a good chunk of change in that car. Alot of cash for mediocre performance.
Just my .02
They are impressive, but I do prefer my T/A over my stage 2 SRT-4.
Just watched the vidz, the cobra pulled away as good as you did on the C6. And what gear was the C6 in? 4th
350z is a nice car, but they just don't impress me. That is a good chunk of change in that car. Alot of cash for mediocre performance.
Just my .02
The tune was perfect on it, would hold 11.5-11.8 AFR @ 21 psi all the way to redline.
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Originally Posted by 25psi
A 350z at 9 psi can pull any stock domesitc car there is besides a c6 z06 vette or a ford gt.
Lets look at stock numbers. 300hp 300ftlb of torque(only 25hp short of ls1). This is a mid 13 sec car at 104-105 mph. About the same as a stock ls1(ls1 still a bit faster).
My twin 350z ran a 116 trap at 7 psi of boost with a stock exhaust.
If you want to talk about pathetic, the new gt500 mustang runs slower than my 350z did at 8 psi.
Ive already shown what a twin turbo z can do. Ive walked modded c5 z06, camaros, evo's, srt's, viper(stock) etc...
Lets look at stock numbers. 300hp 300ftlb of torque(only 25hp short of ls1). This is a mid 13 sec car at 104-105 mph. About the same as a stock ls1(ls1 still a bit faster).
My twin 350z ran a 116 trap at 7 psi of boost with a stock exhaust.
If you want to talk about pathetic, the new gt500 mustang runs slower than my 350z did at 8 psi.
Ive already shown what a twin turbo z can do. Ive walked modded c5 z06, camaros, evo's, srt's, viper(stock) etc...
The key word in your arguement is stock domestic. My one friend has a kennebelle GT not even fully bolted on running 420whp @8psi, and his brother has a 60 trim LS1 Camaro SS at over 500whp with less psi than your car as well.
Like I said not impressed. Never have been with the 350z.
Funny thing was when a 350z track thought he could beat my 03 mach 1 stock for stock.
Not trying to start a flame war, just stating facts.
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Originally Posted by Sprayed1998
MMFF ran 12.20's@117 in a bone stock G500 in the heat on street tires, depends on driver. I don't know if you can walk a modded z06 either, my buds traped 118 BONE stock at HRP about 2 years ago, but again it comes down to the driver. A catback/intake C5 Z06 is a 120mph car with a good driver. I have raced 2 TT 350Z's in my SS, yours and the blue one, the blue one raped and yours was too close to call, and my car is pretty damn basic as far as modded LS1's go, cam and headers, not even a ls6 intake, lol.
Car and Driver only posted a 12.8 at 113 in a GT500, which is purely pathetic for a 500hp supercharged v8.
There are other vids of me rapping Z06's on the streets, as well as the freeway(houstonperfpormancedriving.com).
So ytour brother has a supercharged v8 making the same amount of power as me with same amount of boost. Impessive And even a larger ci ls1 making a tad bit more power than me. Again .
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Originally Posted by 25psi
The night when we ran, I was at 7 psi. As you know, my stock injectors will not hold anything past 9 without water meth. injection. My egts where off the charts, so I would not risk my motor for a few runs. Back to back to back to back to back runs affect turbo cars far more than they do n/a cars.
Car and Driver only posted a 12.8 at 113 in a GT500, which is purely pathetic for a 500hp supercharged v8.
There are other vids of me rapping Z06's on the streets, as well as the freeway(houstonperfpormancedriving.com).
So ytour brother has a supercharged v8 making the same amount of power as me with same amount of boost. Impessive And even a larger ci ls1 making a tad bit more power than me. Again .
Car and Driver only posted a 12.8 at 113 in a GT500, which is purely pathetic for a 500hp supercharged v8.
There are other vids of me rapping Z06's on the streets, as well as the freeway(houstonperfpormancedriving.com).
So ytour brother has a supercharged v8 making the same amount of power as me with same amount of boost. Impessive And even a larger ci ls1 making a tad bit more power than me. Again .
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Originally Posted by Sprayed1998
Z06's trap 115-118 stock, more than enough to run with your 350z with a good driver, if you beat one with your old set-up it is because they couldnt drive, period. My car mad 400HP, and weighted 300+ more pounds than your car, yet I was able to run even with you all night and pull you on the big end everytime, it's called powerband, and mine was alot better than yours. If you are talking about that cobra in my sig that is my little bros buddy, it is on a SQ trim blower running 7-8psi, no intercooler is holding him back, he could easily run 600+ rwhp if he set it up right, 7-8psi out of a 12 year old SQ trim blower is a little different than 7-8psi out of your turbo set-up, hopefully you know that. And lets not get into this bigger ci crap, esp when your boosting and im not, thats just gay.
But I can sum it up with alot less text.....
Aka, the VQ35 sux.
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Don't get me wrong, ive met Chris and he is a cool dude, and his car hauls. But he has a turbo, once you throw boost at something the whole "you have a bigger motor" excuse kinda goes down the drain, not to mention how much lighter his car is, but lets not get into lame excuses. My car is pretty basic, meduim sized cam, cheap pacesetter headers and a dyno tune, I don't even have a ls6 intake yet.
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Originally Posted by Sprayed1998
Z06's trap 115-118 stock, more than enough to run with your 350z with a good driver, if you beat one with your old set-up it is because they couldnt drive, period. My car mad 400HP, and weighted 300+ more pounds than your car, yet I was able to run even with you all night and pull you on the big end everytime, it's called powerband, and mine was alot better than yours. If you are talking about that cobra in my sig that is my little bros buddy, it is on a SQ trim blower running 7-8psi, no intercooler is holding him back, he could easily run 600+ rwhp if he set it up right, 7-8psi out of a 12 year old SQ trim blower is a little different than 7-8psi out of your turbo set-up, hopefully you know that. And lets not get into this bigger ci crap, esp when your boosting and im not, thats just gay.
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But I can sum it up with alot less text.....
Aka, the VQ35 sux.
Chris's car or MaximumsportZ looks amazing and runs real hard. That guy knows his stuff from what I've read.
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Originally Posted by Sprayed1998
Don't get me wrong, ive met Chris and he is a cool dude, and his car hauls. But he has a turbo, once you throw boost at something the whole "you have a bigger motor" excuse kinda goes down the drain, not to mention how much lighter his car is, but lets not get into lame excuses. My car is pretty basic, meduim sized cam, cheap pacesetter headers and a dyno tune, I don't even have a ls6 intake yet.
There are alot better choices out there if you want to be fast.
That 60trim SS I mentioned made 512whp on 5.5lbs. And he is doing some work with his intercoolers to make it even more powerful.
And I think he was refering to my friend not my brother, he has a 420whp GT, that is trapping 117. He has the 1.7? L kenne bell, and exhaust at the time. He should be higher now as he has added a full intake and larger throttle body.
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Originally Posted by DemitriHKS
I'm sorry but that really holds no argument and that's just your opinion. That VQ motor has been voted one of the Top ten motors ever built for over 11 years at this point I believe and thats an actual fact. The keep the same block and keep adding more and more power to it. The VQ motor is also capable of a lot more HP but no company has really been able to crack into the ECU and the electronics of the car. The only one that has come close is APS and Jim Wolf. For staight line racing it's a pretty good car......all around aspect its an amazing car.
Chris's car or MaximumsportZ looks amazing and runs real hard. That guy knows his stuff from what I've read.
Chris's car or MaximumsportZ looks amazing and runs real hard. That guy knows his stuff from what I've read.
The VQ is blah......the 350z and G35 coupe look good but thats where it stops for me.
Sux was more said in jest, but I really I find them lacking...
Not to mention it seems that everyone that drives a 350z/G35 Coupe, thinks they are hot shiet. 350z's are my favorite car to trounce on, my old SRT-4's favorite food. I have never lost to one yet, though it if takes one some aftermarket boost to beat me so be it. I have less than 300 dollars in power mods, lets see a 350z get to my power to weight ratio with that amount.
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Originally Posted by Sprayed1998
I dunno much about the 350z motor, but my 400rwhp SS at 3700 pounds was able to run dead even with 25psi's 430rwhp 350z.
Your friend that was riding with me, can attest to the fact I had to shut down early almost every run becuase my egt's where running hot as the mph increased. Remember I was on stock injectors, stock ecu and stock cats. Anyone who knows turbo cars can verify how much stock cats and no tune will hurt a turbo car(more so than an n/a car).
It was not the powerband, becuase I make more torque than you past 3000rpm. I make 300ftlb at 2500rpm and 462 at 4000 rpm(I think it was).
Your vechicle does not weigh more than mine, with my passenger in the car. It is pretty much dead even.
The guy in the Jetta that was following us(the one that works at autobahn) can tell you how I only had 1 bolt on the turbo flange. So basically I was losing boost pressure.
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Originally Posted by 25psi
Your friend that was riding with me, can attest to the fact I had to shut down early almost every run becuase my egt's where running hot as the mph increased. Remember I was on stock injectors, stock ecu and stock cats. Anyone who knows turbo cars can verify how much stock cats and no tune will hurt a turbo car(more so than an n/a car).
It was not the powerband, becuase I make more torque than you past 3000rpm. I make 300ftlb at 2500rpm and 462 at 4000 rpm(I think it was).
Your vechicle does not weigh more than mine, with my passenger in the car. It is pretty much dead even.
The guy in the Jetta that was following us(the one that works at autobahn) can tell you how I only had 1 bolt on the turbo flange. So basically I was losing boost pressure.
It was not the powerband, becuase I make more torque than you past 3000rpm. I make 300ftlb at 2500rpm and 462 at 4000 rpm(I think it was).
Your vechicle does not weigh more than mine, with my passenger in the car. It is pretty much dead even.
The guy in the Jetta that was following us(the one that works at autobahn) can tell you how I only had 1 bolt on the turbo flange. So basically I was losing boost pressure.
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Originally Posted by 25psi
Your friend that was riding with me, can attest to the fact I had to shut down early almost every run becuase my egt's where running hot as the mph increased. Remember I was on stock injectors, stock ecu and stock cats. Anyone who knows turbo cars can verify how much stock cats and no tune will hurt a turbo car(more so than an n/a car).
It was not the powerband, becuase I make more torque than you past 3000rpm. I make 300ftlb at 2500rpm and 462 at 4000 rpm(I think it was).
Your vechicle does not weigh more than mine, with my passenger in the car. It is pretty much dead even.
The guy in the Jetta that was following us(the one that works at autobahn) can tell you how I only had 1 bolt on the turbo flange. So basically I was losing boost pressure.
It was not the powerband, becuase I make more torque than you past 3000rpm. I make 300ftlb at 2500rpm and 462 at 4000 rpm(I think it was).
Your vechicle does not weigh more than mine, with my passenger in the car. It is pretty much dead even.
The guy in the Jetta that was following us(the one that works at autobahn) can tell you how I only had 1 bolt on the turbo flange. So basically I was losing boost pressure.