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Old Aug 18, 2006 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by WHPLASH
I put down 498 rwhp and still can't beat one.
After your tranny shift points are corrected you should maintain full boost instead of bogging. Now just let me run Fadi with those Mickey T's from a dig and see what I can do.
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Old Aug 18, 2006 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by LastLT1
you also have to consider the gearing in the new z06's. cant they do like 72-73mph in 1st gear and take 2nd to almost 108mph? that definetly helps them out.
1 less shift definately saves a few tenths and shows up big time from a dig.
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Old Aug 18, 2006 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ßlackßeard
I've got the best of both worlds, but without a doubt, my heads / cam SS doesn't even come close to the Z06, especially past 120mph... the ss at anything from 120 to 180 (top speed) is just stupid scary, kinda like a Caddy on steroids, the Z06 builds confidence.

Just keep it safe out there guys.

Peace.
I have lots of experiences running my h/c C5 against the new C6 Zo6. I have only one win and that was a race that started at 80 mph with me in 3rd gear trying to get him to run. He did and we ran to 175, or at least I did. I think he let out at 170 with it too close to call, but since he let out first I claim victory. I'd say I was a bumper ahead anyways. Raced Fadi on a couple different occasions, got killed the first time around, the second time did much better. Still didn't beat him. Also raced one from my area that wasn't as quick as Fadi's car but he still beat me. By less then Fadi beat my by though. Fadi has a monster on his hands and can drive.....I would say that a c5 can win, but will need at least 515 N/A'd rwhp and plenty of traction. To overcome the weight advantage and superior gearing and 7000 rpm power band. Those monsters have power from idle. Damn! I suppose a bolt on C5 with a supercharger making similar power would win as well until the supercharger loses boost from the insane heat developed while racing. Nothing a FMIC can't cure..... Just my 2 cents............
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Old Aug 18, 2006 | 05:35 PM
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A buddy of mine just got a new c6 z06 a few months ago.. he plans to do some exhaust, headers, and a mild cam... once he does all that i'm hoping we can line them up !
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Old Aug 18, 2006 | 05:39 PM
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Thats the thing with the LS7. Its not just the peak numbers, its that its got the high rev flow to use insano gearing. While most cars are shifting, its still hauling in its low gears. All the torque multiplied by nasty gears for a longer period of time.
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Old Aug 19, 2006 | 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by 99ccz28
its been a long time since i have raced but today there was a z06 on the way home from pittsburgh. i was hoping he would race and he did. i dont really know what speed we were at but i honked and we took off and he pulled me by about two cars or so until we shut down. i knew i would lose but it was fun and i thought i did pretty well. maybe next year i can take em.
Sweet man, where did you get him at, rt. 422 or 28, or I79? Im up in Erie, but Im through your part of the woods all the time. Ill have to give you a shout next time Im heading down through Butler, on my way to Indiana. I actually just drove a Z06 tonight, and oh my god, we have nothing on that car. They are just insane, I thought I was near red line once, no way 5700rpm I still had 1300 in the bag left before I had to shift, and so much power. There is something about that 4400 - 5000 rpm range when you hit that it gets even crazier. Sounds like you had some fun. Good run. have fun.
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Old Aug 19, 2006 | 09:04 AM
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Sweet man, where did you get him at, rt. 422 or 28, or I79? Im up in Erie, but Im through your part of the woods all the time. Ill have to give you a shout next time Im heading down through Butler, on my way to Indiana. I actually just drove a Z06 tonight, and oh my god, we have nothing on that car. They are just insane, I thought I was near red line once, no way 5700rpm I still had 1300 in the bag left before I had to shift, and so much power. There is something about that 4400 - 5000 rpm range when you hit that it gets even crazier. Sounds like you had some fun. Good run. have fun.
no actually it was rt 8 coming from pitts...yea get at me when ya come through and we can meet up somewhere
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Old Aug 19, 2006 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by 99ccz28
no actually it was rt 8 coming from pitts...yea get at me when ya come through and we can meet up somewhere
Rt8, damn that can be a dangerous road sometimes. Yeah if Im heading down anytime soon I would love to see your car.
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Old Aug 19, 2006 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 1sick'98WS6
I raced one a couple months ago, he just had exhaust, i got pulled over after i got my *** kicked by him...


thats fucked.

god damn Sheriff Joe
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Old Aug 19, 2006 | 12:00 PM
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The C6 Z06 is a hard race but it sounded like it was close, I have seen a few races around here where you could barely even see the vette from the dash cam it was so far ahead, such a smack down!!!!!!
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Old Aug 19, 2006 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by LastLT1
you also have to consider the gearing in the new z06's. cant they do like 72-73mph in 1st gear and take 2nd to almost 108mph? that definetly helps them out.
Incorrect.

Actually, the new Z has to rev just past redline and almost kiss the rev limiter to hit 60 in 1st.

That's why the 0-60 times are so varied; some are done in 2 gears, few are done in 1 gear.

I SWEAR all this talk about the new ZO6 and I'm DYING to smack one on video

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Old Aug 19, 2006 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dragon
Incorrect.

Actually, the new Z has to rev just past redline and almost kiss the rev limiter to hit 60 in 1st.

That's why the 0-60 times are so varied; some are done in 2 gears, few are done in 1 gear.

I SWEAR all this talk about the new ZO6 and I'm DYING to smack one on video
No, it does not have to go past redline to hit 60 in first, and it does 63mph in first gear. What the hell would I know, it's not like I drive one everyday!! I would love it if you would smack mine on video!!!
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Old Aug 19, 2006 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Sparetire
Thats the thing with the LS7. Its not just the peak numbers, its that its got the high rev flow to use insano gearing. While most cars are shifting, its still hauling in its low gears. All the torque multiplied by nasty gears for a longer period of time.
Doesn't it just have the same gearing as 6spd f-body's but with 26.6" tires and a higher redline?
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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by M3Corvette
No, it does not have to go past redline to hit 60 in first, and it does 63mph in first gear. What the hell would I know, it's not like I drive one everyday!! I would love it if you would smack mine on video!!!
I think I need your job or work for you, you have some beautiful toys in your sig. I just got done driving a z the other night, and I think i had it just past 60 in first. Amazing car, your lucky you get to go and drive it every day if you want. I would give my left ...!
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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by M3Corvette
No, it does not have to go past redline to hit 60 in first, and it does 63mph in first gear. What the hell would I know, it's not like I drive one everyday!! I would love it if you would smack mine on video!!!
I love baiting guys like you

I'll tell you like I tell everybody else: don't assume what you see in my sig is EVERYTHING that my car has:

Originally Posted by the Dragon's sig.
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I have MOOOOOOOORE than enough to spank your 520 rwhp corvette

Too bad you're in Virginia . . . I find it hilarious when someone takes an open statement on the net as a personal jibe from another person on the internet a million miles away Not to mention the fact that I wasn't talking to you

In short . . . you'd need a power adder to roll with me

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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbo2.4Liter
Doesn't it just have the same gearing as 6spd f-body's but with 26.6" tires and a higher redline?
I believe you are correct.

This is why EVERY magazine that tests the C6 ZO6 has printed and I quote: " you have to go a shade past the redline in order to reach 60 in first without banging the rev limiter . . . ".

If that is an incorrect statement, so be it. Than most of the publicized literature is WRONG

M3Corvette . . . since you "drive one everyday . . . " how about you list what the tranny/rear gearing ratios are and list the speed in gear at rpm's

Because if Turbo 2.4Liter is correct (which is what I've read in C&D, R&T, and Motor Trend) one would have to rev to 7100 rpm's to achieve 60 mph in 1st.

Again, maybe the literature is wrong . . . it wouldn't be the first time

How about you enlighten us with your wisdom and experience
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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 08:35 AM
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didnt he say his zo6 can do 63 in 1st? but his zo6 isnt stock it has 520rwhp..maybe his can??? i dunno
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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by The Dragon
I love baiting guys like you

I'll tell you like I tell everybody else: don't assume what you see in my sig is EVERYTHING that my car has:



I have MOOOOOOOORE than enough to spank your 520 rwhp corvette

Too bad you're in Virginia . . . I find it hilarious when someone takes an open statement on the net as a personal jibe from another person on the internet a million miles away Not to mention the fact that I wasn't talking to you

In short . . . you'd need a power adder to roll with me
You kill me! The difference between myself and you, is I don't brag about everybody I'm going to "spank". Please, no more internet racing! If your car is faster than most..................great! Just don't talk smack unless you are with your buddies trying to have a good time.

Don't quote stats about a car you don't own or don't drive. If the mags say it though, it must be true. Make an inquiry(enquiry) to get the real world info from someone who drives one.

I like all sports cars no matter what the make or what it cost. I also give credit where it's due to any car that's faster, and I don't look down on people who can't afford more. What kills me, are people who knock or talk smack about cars they can't afford. I know, you can afford two C6 Z's or any car you wish, but you choose to drive what you're driving. I'm happy for ya!

Why don't you try the approach of sticking to what you know................your car, and saying " I can't wait to run one of those".
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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by 99ccz28
didnt he say his zo6 can do 63 in 1st? but his zo6 isnt stock it has 520rwhp..maybe his can??? i dunno

Power levels dopnt affect how fast each gear is at redline. The ratios are the same regardless of power.

Looks like I am wrong. I could have sworn the ratios in the Z06 box are more radical than the standard T-56 ratios in C6s and C5s.
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Z06 Accelerating (Drools)
http://www.motortrend.com/av/112_060...tte_z06_video/

Good run.
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