from a roll
Originally Posted by dan03mach
Yep dig races are for people who can drive there car and not scared to race.. Roll races don't always tell who has the fastest car, it still takes some driving.. The only thing about roll races is that it puts the cars in there best power band and sometimes it puts the other car out of it.. So roll races are really a fair and equal race. Now how is racing from a roll not going to lose your car to an impound lot if you get caught and a dig is? That doesn't make too much since.. I didn't buy my car to drag race all the time either but I can if the opportunity comes up. I don't have to worry about the rear-end breaking at anytime, that’s why its built up. I can run all the way to 125mph in the 1/4 mile and my top end runs out around 165mph so I have plenty of top end.. I have only pulled mine up to 155mph but after calculating tire height, tranny ratio, and rpm limiter, I had plenty left.. So it looks like to me that you have the same excuse that everyone else has.. I'll break my rear-end.. LMFAO What a joke..
Originally Posted by dan03mach
Yep dig races are for people who can drive there car and not scared to race.. Roll races don't always tell who has the fastest car, it still takes some driving.. The only thing about roll races is that it puts the cars in there best power band and sometimes it puts the other car out of it.. So roll races are really a fair and equal race. Now how is racing from a roll not going to lose your car to an impound lot if you get caught and a dig is? That doesn't make too much since.. I didn't buy my car to drag race all the time either but I can if the opportunity comes up. I don't have to worry about the rear-end breaking at anytime, that’s why its built up. I can run all the way to 125mph in the 1/4 mile and my top end runs out around 165mph so I have plenty of top end.. I have only pulled mine up to 155mph but after calculating tire height, tranny ratio, and rpm limiter, I had plenty left.. So it looks like to me that you have the same excuse that everyone else has.. I'll break my rear-end.. LMFAO What a joke..
I'm not that big on drag racing as you can tell, however, i'm not scared to break my rear end, i just hate downtime and setbacks, which makes everyday life very inefficient. Also, there is no point in going out a breaking rear ends and other suspension parts all the time if you're not going to make any money off of it... Why risk breaking a rear end running some egotistical youngster on a high-horse for free just to determine who's superior and coming out of pocket $2k....Roll racing is easier on the parts, which is why i prefer it. You should just respect my opinion and get over it... Besides, arguing about this isn't going to prove or resolve anything because it's a loaded subject and each has their own opinion, therefore, there is no right or wrong answer....Some like drag racing and some like roll racing, I just happen to fall into the roll racing category...
Originally Posted by c5_ls1_6spd
i can run up to 125 in the quarter also, but my top end runs out around 191+
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Originally Posted by dan03mach
I would like to see your C5 Vette run 191mph.. My car is able to run up in the 160's..
With all that said, if he's got a head/cam/exhaust C5 theres no doubt that he can go 191 mph. JMO 
Last edited by allngn_c5; Sep 2, 2006 at 12:58 PM.
Originally Posted by allngn_c5
Hey BigRon, I launch nicely with those shitty EMT's. The problem is I get all nervous or something and **** everything up off the line. I bet if you were in the drivers seat of my car you would probably annihilate Fadi who left me at the line. You saw how much better I launched on the final dig against Fadi. My tires were warm and I eased her out rather then doing the 14 yr old first time with a girl I just came **** I am so embarrassed routine Sorry for the run on , but I suck at launching because I get all excited. 
Better tires and more practice will help
Sorry for the run on , but I suck at launching because I get all excited. Better tires and more practice will helpYeah, I had to prod you a little bit!
I like the analogy first time with a girl... Launching from a dig on the street is damn sure a hit or miss depending on the conditions and the pavement. You definitely had a much better launch on the last race with Fadi...that first one you did had me rolling on the floor...I could just see you losing your load early on that one! Any more good runs lately?? I'm setting up a couple so I don't have to race shitbox ricers f'ing with me on the highway...it just wastes gas. Oh, and I got the nitrous in the mail today, so I'll be spraying in a couple weeks...talk about traction woes then!
Originally Posted by allngn_c5
Hmmmm, I am not sure if you are being sarcastic or not, but I have a video of me doing 193 in my car (sorry no speedo shot). Camera was on a tripod fixed fwd. FYI I have seen 200 mph on 3 occasions. Very top end of 5th is good for 204.591 mph @ 7000 rpms =/- 50 rpms So I was just about to hit the rev limiter when I clocked 200 mph on the HUD and then let off. The other times I did it I glanced at the actual speedo and she was pegged, then I heard the ugly sound when you hit the rev limiter and let off. Got to love those 3 mile straight aways. With all that said, if he's got a head/cam/exhaust C5 theres no doubt that he can go 191 mph. JMO
With all that said, if he's got a head/cam/exhaust C5 theres no doubt that he can go 191 mph. JMO
Originally Posted by dan03mach
I would like to see your C5 Vette run 191mph.. My car is able to run up in the 160's..
im stock geared (3.42s) with a 7k rpm redline and H/C/I on my C5 coupe, there have been many people breaking the 190mph barrier with the same setup.....alln_c5 is one of many....
The only problem is that at those speeds, lot of air builds up underneathe the front end of the car and can actually lift the front end off the ground. Some guys actually install winglets and a rear wing to help keep the car planted at high speeds.
Originally Posted by LSINA7
4 reasons.
1) Dig races break parts. I don't want to be running someone and break something in the middle of the road. "Hi officer, for some reason the rear-end of my car just shattered while I was sitting here in the middle of the road. It was the craziest thing..."
2) High horsepower cars have traction problems, and I don't care how good a driver you are, losing traction is not easy to go through. Slicks? Race at the track. Street racing is for street cars.
3) Roll racing shows the faster car. I don't care what you guys say, a roll race from different speeds will show what car is truely faster.
4) Its not easy to stop in the street and do a dig race.
I love a dig as much as anybody, buts its not practical.
1) Dig races break parts. I don't want to be running someone and break something in the middle of the road. "Hi officer, for some reason the rear-end of my car just shattered while I was sitting here in the middle of the road. It was the craziest thing..."
2) High horsepower cars have traction problems, and I don't care how good a driver you are, losing traction is not easy to go through. Slicks? Race at the track. Street racing is for street cars.
3) Roll racing shows the faster car. I don't care what you guys say, a roll race from different speeds will show what car is truely faster.
4) Its not easy to stop in the street and do a dig race.
I love a dig as much as anybody, buts its not practical.
Smart guy.
I say be willing to do both. If you have too much power and too little tire, most should understand and go from a roll. In those instances where guys LIVE from a dig...Evo's and such, they want to run ONLY from a dig. Just be willing for both. The last EVo I ran across, he was saying from a dig over and over b/c we had run from a roll 3-4 times already and Im suprised he had paint on the side I was on but I agreed to run from a dig. We went from a dig and he had a foot on me until 2nd, then same story as the other races. I was WILLING to loose though but I told him....YOU BETTER STAY ON IT UNTIL 3RD.........dont ***** out and let of a few cars up and as soon as you hear me comming. 600+ hp cars are tough to even get traction from 2nd rolls.
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I guess I missed the whole jump to top speed. Im sure 450+ RWHP in a C5 or C6 will get you right at 200mph. Id say it would take another 100 more for Fbods and Mustangs though. Stillen has a new Porsche Cayenne with 580hp that goes 180-181. Its an SUV. My .02
Bah roll racing is just gay to me . If you cant drive your car get a mini van . So lets hear these excuses why sticky tires wont hook on a 600hp car 
So alot of people spend a fortune to make there car fast from a roll and not put the supporting mods to there rear suspension to actually have a real drag race where the driver is the best mod you can have .
So alot of people spend a fortune to make there car fast from a roll and not put the supporting mods to there rear suspension to actually have a real drag race where the driver is the best mod you can have .
Originally Posted by 2001z
Bah roll racing is just gay to me . If you cant drive your car get a mini van . So lets hear these excuses why sticky tires wont hook on a 600hp car So alot of people spend a fortune to make there car fast from a roll and not put the supporting mods to there rear suspension to actually have a real drag race where the driver is the best mod you can have .
So alot of people spend a fortune to make there car fast from a roll and not put the supporting mods to there rear suspension to actually have a real drag race where the driver is the best mod you can have .Make a drag car... Go to the drag strip.
Originally Posted by 2001z
Bah roll racing is just gay to me . If you cant drive your car get a mini van . So lets hear these excuses why sticky tires wont hook on a 600hp car So alot of people spend a fortune to make there car fast from a roll and not put the supporting mods to there rear suspension to actually have a real drag race where the driver is the best mod you can have .
So alot of people spend a fortune to make there car fast from a roll and not put the supporting mods to there rear suspension to actually have a real drag race where the driver is the best mod you can have .
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A race from a dig takes into consideration suspension, gearing, weight, and skill far more than a roll race.
Roll races only concern power, aerodynamics and to a much lesser extent weight and gearing. Suspension is totally irrelevant 99% of the time. Weight does not really mean much after 3rd.
Roll racing is cool and all, but I dont see how it shows which car is honestly faster at all. IMHO it shows that far less than a dig race. In a roll race you might have a car thats no faster than its competitor winning by quite a margin because the roll was from that cars sweet spot. And when I think of truly fast, I think of a car and drivers overall performance. To me, racing should be a contest of driver and machine. Otherwise we are all spectators.
I can understand not wanting to break parts. But thats racing. We dont do this because its cheap and easy. Go look at the road course guys. now thats breakage.
And legally, the only street racing Im interested in personally is dig races out in the country. For some thats not possible, and that sucks, but Im not too keen on running around heavily used public roads.
Roll races only concern power, aerodynamics and to a much lesser extent weight and gearing. Suspension is totally irrelevant 99% of the time. Weight does not really mean much after 3rd.
Roll racing is cool and all, but I dont see how it shows which car is honestly faster at all. IMHO it shows that far less than a dig race. In a roll race you might have a car thats no faster than its competitor winning by quite a margin because the roll was from that cars sweet spot. And when I think of truly fast, I think of a car and drivers overall performance. To me, racing should be a contest of driver and machine. Otherwise we are all spectators.
I can understand not wanting to break parts. But thats racing. We dont do this because its cheap and easy. Go look at the road course guys. now thats breakage.
And legally, the only street racing Im interested in personally is dig races out in the country. For some thats not possible, and that sucks, but Im not too keen on running around heavily used public roads.
Originally Posted by dan03mach
Damn right...
Originally Posted by dan03mach
I don't have to worry about the rear-end breaking at anytime, that’s why its built up....I'll break my rear-end.. LMFAO What a joke..
That being said I too prefer to race from a stop. My favorite is at a red light not in the middle of a highway.
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I prefer dig races because they are more exciting, but its so hard to get one going. Its always so rare for me to end up at a light with a car that wants to race or even a car thats worth racing.Most of the time I end up seeing someone who wants to race while crusing on the road, which is why roll racing is more frequent on the street for me.
Originally Posted by Blk00TransAm
Why are almost all of the races that i see from a roll? 10,15,30, what happen to the good ole' dig races. if your car only does good from a roll to bad. drag racing is drag racing. The reason i say this is because last night i had an 01 GT say that he wanted to race me. I agreed. we went to the road we race at and he says he wants a 30 roll i said no from a stop thats how we do it here. i new he was stock and i have only intake and exhaust so i can take him so i agree to a 15 roll. but its not the same as a dig race!
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I will forever believe roll racing was invented by ricers to make up for the facts of turbo lag and no low end tq.....its probally the only positive thing theyve contributed to the car world tho, cause now i LOVE to roll race in my cobra will all the power.
