Street Racing & Kill Stories Basic Technical Questions & Advice

Lotus Elise

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-01-2006 | 12:32 AM
  #1  
BayAreaSS's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Veteran
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 4,240
Likes: 2
From: Bay Area, CA (Pittsburg)
Default Lotus Elise

I pulled out of my job parking lot tonite and im sitting at the light when i see a lotus. He's a car in front of me in the next lane. So when the light turns green we both turn and at the end of the turn i floored it and let the cutout scream in his ear as i drive by. I didnt think he would play but to my surprise he floors it and goes by. So we both get on the freeway and he's behind me riding my ***. Im in 3rd and i let the Rpm's get to about 3k and i see him switch lanes and punch it. So i wait and let him get to my door and i hit it. Because of his momentum he had me by half a car and then i reel him in and shift to 4th. I proceed to put about 4 cars on him and then he let off. I waited for him to catch up but he just disappeared. It was a fun run he had a passenger and i was alone. The car felt very strong tonite. Its perfect nite to run the air is real cool.

PS...I dont know how fast the Elise are but i assumed it should be quick. Can someone enlighten me on how fast they are?
Old 11-01-2006 | 12:34 AM
  #2  
LedZeppelin725's Avatar
On The Tree
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 123
Likes: 0
From: Myrtle Beach, SC
Default

i think but im not sure about mid to low 13's
Old 11-01-2006 | 01:46 AM
  #3  
BayAreaSS's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Veteran
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 4,240
Likes: 2
From: Bay Area, CA (Pittsburg)
Default

Originally Posted by LedZeppelin725
i think but im not sure about mid to low 13's
I looked on dragtimes.com and it said an 05 Elise is 13.5 but i also seen a 98 elise that said 14.1. Im not sure what year it was
Old 11-01-2006 | 04:46 AM
  #4  
300bhp/ton's Avatar
TECH Addict
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 2,650
Likes: 13
From: England
Default

They can be pretty fast, but it's more about handling and grip. A stock 190bhp Elise/Exige will generally lap most race circuits faster than a 400bhp manual Z51 Corvette C6.

They are also mid engined so then can launch very well, most of their speed comes from the 0-60 dash. Et's are respectable but the trap speeds won't generally be that high. But they simply where never designed for drag racing.

The 240R Supercharged model sold in the UK is quite a bit faster and will lap most race circuits as quick as a Ford GT or C6 Z06.
Old 11-01-2006 | 08:27 AM
  #5  
Sparetire's Avatar
Launching!
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 204
Likes: 0
From: Arizona.
Default

Yeah, the US spec has the Toyota 1.8L (and the UK spec now too unfortunatley) that puts down 180HP in the Celica and 190 in the Lotus. All top end. Even among screaming NA 4 bangers its relatively weak in the mid range. Of course it weighs like 1900 lbs so it does not take much to move the thing. Aggressive gearing too.

Nice kill.

I really want to see a turboed one. Some company makes a setup that puts it right in the tens IIRC.
Old 11-01-2006 | 09:23 AM
  #6  
SouthFL.02.SS's Avatar
!LS1 11 Second Club
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 7,133
Likes: 2
From: Miami
Default

Nice kill. Lotus Elise is one of my top 5 favorite cars. I really wish I could own one. They are really at home on a road course and are a true turnkey track ready car. They have enough power for their weight to be very entertaining (I've driven one) as they are a mid/low 13 sec. car at about 102ish mph. But the sensory experience of driving one (sound/seating position/wheel/pedals) makes it feel like a quicker car.
Old 11-01-2006 | 10:02 AM
  #7  
stingpiece's Avatar
Teching In
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
From: West Michigan
Default

I watched a stocker take to the local track here in Michigan over the summer. 14.3's & 40's at 95-97mph.

This may not be a great indication as to there full potential, as some here have said mid to low 13's. Driver Mod?
Old 11-01-2006 | 12:21 PM
  #8  
firebirdvert305's Avatar
Teching In
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 21
Likes: 0
Default

They come with a very rev-happy 2ZZ Yamaha built 1.8L Toyota engine. They can make some serious power turbocharged, the quickest one I remember to date was around 700whp. Imagine that in a 2000lb elise, it would just be sick. Its a very strong bottom end, aluminum block and head, take very well to boost. They have VVTL-I which is variable valve timing lift-intelligent, people are still trying to figure out how to "lower the lift engagement" point, overall they are great cars.
Old 11-01-2006 | 03:04 PM
  #9  
BayAreaSS's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Veteran
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 4,240
Likes: 2
From: Bay Area, CA (Pittsburg)
Default

I see these cars all the time but they dont want to play but this time The driver and passenger were two younger guys. I was happy to get some action with the Elise. I thought it would be a closer race but maybe he couldnt drive.
Old 11-01-2006 | 03:46 PM
  #10  
91s10LS1's Avatar
Staging Lane
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 69
Likes: 0
Default

nice... i really like those cars dont see to many out my way, yeah i head that they were awesome handling cars
Old 11-01-2006 | 05:19 PM
  #11  
BayAreaSS's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Veteran
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 4,240
Likes: 2
From: Bay Area, CA (Pittsburg)
Default

Originally Posted by 91s10LS1
nice... i really like those cars dont see to many out my way, yeah i head that they were awesome handling cars
Its not uncommon to see cool cars in my area. Two weeks ago i tried to race a lambo gallardo and later that same nite i got into a rev competition with a new ford GT.(that was really cool)

PS....That damn lotus was soooo small! I thought i was racing a go-cart
Old 11-01-2006 | 06:45 PM
  #12  
dalez28's Avatar
Teching In
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 44
Likes: 0
Default

I am suprised that one tryed to race you, they definately dont have enough unless heavily moded or playing in some non stop twisties.

They are quite small... I am not a very big guy and it was still a tight fit inside one when I went to look at them at the dealer.
Old 11-01-2006 | 08:43 PM
  #13  
BayAreaSS's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Veteran
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 4,240
Likes: 2
From: Bay Area, CA (Pittsburg)
Default

Originally Posted by dalez28
I am suprised that one tryed to race you, they definately dont have enough unless heavily moded or playing in some non stop twisties.

They are quite small... I am not a very big guy and it was still a tight fit inside one when I went to look at them at the dealer.
I was surprised too. Im sure it was stock
Old 11-01-2006 | 08:57 PM
  #14  
Tainted's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,425
Likes: 2
From: Indianapolis
Default

heres the latest model, the Elise 111R

Type: Inline-4
Displacement cu in (cc): 110 (1796)
Power bhp (kW) at RPM: 190(141) / 7800
Torque lb-ft (Nm) at RPM: 133(181) / 6800
Redline at RPM: n.a.
Brakes & Tires
Brakes F/R: ABS, vented disc/vented disc
Tires F-R: 175/55 R16 - 225/45 R17
Driveline: Rear Wheel Drive
Exterior Dimensions & Weight
Length × Width × Height in: 147.6 × 72.2 × 43.6
Weight lb (kg): 1895 (860)
Performance
Acceleration 0-60 mph s: 4.9
Top Speed mph (km/h): 150 (241)
Fuel Economy EPA city/highway mpg (l/100 km): 23/42 (8.8)
Old 11-01-2006 | 10:34 PM
  #15  
BayAreaSS's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Veteran
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 4,240
Likes: 2
From: Bay Area, CA (Pittsburg)
Default

Originally Posted by Tainted
heres the latest model, the Elise 111R

Type: Inline-4
Displacement cu in (cc): 110 (1796)
Power bhp (kW) at RPM: 190(141) / 7800
Torque lb-ft (Nm) at RPM: 133(181) / 6800
Redline at RPM: n.a.
Brakes & Tires
Brakes F/R: ABS, vented disc/vented disc
Tires F-R: 175/55 R16 - 225/45 R17
Driveline: Rear Wheel Drive
Exterior Dimensions & Weight
Length × Width × Height in: 147.6 × 72.2 × 43.6
Weight lb (kg): 1895 (860)
Performance
Acceleration 0-60 mph s: 4.9
Top Speed mph (km/h): 150 (241)
Fuel Economy EPA city/highway mpg (l/100 km): 23/42 (8.8)
Thanks for the stats!
Old 11-01-2006 | 11:40 PM
  #16  
GMmexican's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,607
Likes: 0
From: San Jose, CA
Default

bay area SS your car looks familiar what high school did u go to?
Old 11-01-2006 | 11:48 PM
  #17  
BayAreaSS's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Veteran
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 4,240
Likes: 2
From: Bay Area, CA (Pittsburg)
Default

Originally Posted by GMmexican
bay area SS your car looks familiar what high school did u go to?
Im not from the SJ area. So its wasnt my car. Im from the East Bay
Old 11-02-2006 | 12:50 PM
  #18  
dbuie's Avatar
Staging Lane
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 98
Likes: 0
From: Wilmington, NC
Default

Originally Posted by BayAreaSS
Its not uncommon to see cool cars in my area. Two weeks ago i tried to race a lambo gallardo and later that same nite i got into a rev competition with a new ford GT.(that was really cool)

PS....That damn lotus was soooo small! I thought i was racing a go-cart

I hear ya. My co-worker has a red one. The thing is about the size of a go-kart. I guess that they fit right in in the UK but over here, they get swallowed up by big trucks and SUVs. Power to weight is awesome but if it were to be hit by one of these it would disintegrate.
Old 11-02-2006 | 01:56 PM
  #19  
BayAreaSS's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Veteran
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 4,240
Likes: 2
From: Bay Area, CA (Pittsburg)
Default

Originally Posted by dbuie
I hear ya. My co-worker has a red one. The thing is about the size of a go-kart. I guess that they fit right in in the UK but over here, they get swallowed up by big trucks and SUVs. Power to weight is awesome but if it were to be hit by one of these it would disintegrate.
Your right if a lotus was hit by a escalade or especially a lifted truck it would be all over! That little car would would be in pieces
Old 11-02-2006 | 07:25 PM
  #20  
dailydriver's Avatar
12 Second Club

 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 4,273
Likes: 0
From: Bucks County, Pa.
Default

Originally Posted by firebirdvert305
They come with a very rev-happy 2ZZ Yamaha built 1.8L Toyota engine. They can make some serious power turbocharged, the quickest one I remember to date was around 700whp. Imagine that in a 2000lb elise, it would just be sick. Its a very strong bottom end, aluminum block and head, take very well to boost. They have VVTL-I which is variable valve timing lift-intelligent, people are still trying to figure out how to "lower the lift engagement" point, overall they are great cars.
That may be, but I could not stand to have a Toyota motor in it if i were to own one. I would rather slip a full built Mountune (or whomever) Cossie rallycross unit in there (upwards of 800 whp, at peak ). 300, has anyone done this yet over in jolly ol' England??



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:40 AM.