DSM What?
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Good kill. My ex girlfriend's older sister went out with a guy who had a pretty quick DSM, it ran high 12's. I dont know all what he had done to it except for giggle juice. I know what DSM stands for but whats the difference between 1g and 2g?
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Originally Posted by Red99TransAm
I know what DSM stands for but whats the difference between 1g and 2g?
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Originally Posted by tsiguy
The 1g has a 14b turbo and the 2g has a T-25. The 14b is a far better turbo. You can also get a 6 bolt motor opposed to the 7 bolt that was prone to crank walk.
it was dark out, but i'm pretty sure it was one of these aesthetic wet dreams
i cannot verify the existence of the cavalier rims.
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Hahah thats a 2GA, they came with the swirl rims
1995-1996
2GB 97-99
1GA(flip up head lights) 90-91
1GB(Non flip ups) 92-94
1Gs all came with 14B turbos
2Gs come with t25s(junk)
Very very rare to crank walk but it has happend only in 2Gs and its rare
Stock MOTORs Can handle 500HP
Think of them as 2 Door Evos
most REAL DSM people Only go for pure performance and only get a set of rims and nice paint other wise there hell bent on making power and 1/4 miles times
1995-1996
2GB 97-99
1GA(flip up head lights) 90-91
1GB(Non flip ups) 92-94
1Gs all came with 14B turbos
2Gs come with t25s(junk)
Very very rare to crank walk but it has happend only in 2Gs and its rare
Stock MOTORs Can handle 500HP
Think of them as 2 Door Evos
most REAL DSM people Only go for pure performance and only get a set of rims and nice paint other wise there hell bent on making power and 1/4 miles times
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not all true, but very good info none the less. Auto dsms come with 13g turbos, which are basically POS's. T25's-full bolt on can make anywhere from 240wp-260 depending on the setup and boost. 14bs are good for 260whp bpu-300whp, they can reach over 300whp but it will take alot of work and boost. And yes, i honestly never heard of a 1g 7 bolt motor crankwalking....95-96 are very prone to it, still when you think about the production numbers and the amount of motors that crankwalked it still comes out to less then 7% of all there cars. 6 Bolts is the way to go tho, if you plan on seeing real numbers and E/t's.
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Originally Posted by firebirdvert305
not all true, but very good info none the less. Auto dsms come with 13g turbos, which are basically POS's. T25's-full bolt on can make anywhere from 240wp-260 depending on the setup and boost. 14bs are good for 260whp bpu-300whp, they can reach over 300whp but it will take alot of work and boost. And yes, i honestly never heard of a 1g 7 bolt motor crankwalking....95-96 are very prone to it, still when you think about the production numbers and the amount of motors that crankwalked it still comes out to less then 7% of all there cars. 6 Bolts is the way to go tho, if you plan on seeing real numbers and E/t's.
I had a 2gb 7 bolt that never crank walked, so you are right, it wasn't a huge problem, but it was an issue to say the least. Maybe I just felt like I saw a lot of them because one of our dealerships is a Mitsu dealer and we obviously got the problem cars.
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Originally Posted by tsiguy
I forgot about the auto's.
I had a 2gb 7 bolt that never crank walked, so you are right, it wasn't a huge problem, but it was an issue to say the least. Maybe I just felt like I saw a lot of them because one of our dealerships is a Mitsu dealer and we obviously got the problem cars.
I had a 2gb 7 bolt that never crank walked, so you are right, it wasn't a huge problem, but it was an issue to say the least. Maybe I just felt like I saw a lot of them because one of our dealerships is a Mitsu dealer and we obviously got the problem cars.
they put different turbos on the autos than the manuals? man, what was the reasoning behind that one? fittment issues? or the japs just couldn't make an auto tranny that could hold up to 200 flywheel horsepower (enter the NSX)
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Dsms are considered to be "american built" cars as they are were built in Illinois. They had a sheet flying around on the internet not too long ago but it showed that 70% of the car was chrysler parts, 30% of the parts were mitsu (basically drivetrain and engine btw which is the best part, and the only reason why I own mine). I never knew myself the reasoning why the autos came with a smaller turbo, but its sort of like the 3rd generation camaro, the manuals had a bigger cam, compared to the autos if the engines were the same cubic inch. (excluding 1985).
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I can never tell the fast ones from the slow ones. Every time i've lined up w/one at the track i've killed it by 2 + seconds. Then while i was sitting out for a while one night, i watched the same red eclipse run an 11.9, then like 16.5 or something, and then 14.9. Back to back to back runs. Seems kind of unpredictable. Is it the driver or the car? 
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Originally Posted by ChocoTaco369
doesn't matter. this eclipse was a manual. had to be, by how he missed the gear and all
they put different turbos on the autos than the manuals? man, what was the reasoning behind that one? fittment issues? or the japs just couldn't make an auto tranny that could hold up to 200 flywheel horsepower (enter the NSX)
they put different turbos on the autos than the manuals? man, what was the reasoning behind that one? fittment issues? or the japs just couldn't make an auto tranny that could hold up to 200 flywheel horsepower (enter the NSX)
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Originally Posted by tacklebox
I can never tell the fast ones from the slow ones. Every time i've lined up w/one at the track i've killed it by 2 + seconds. Then while i was sitting out for a while one night, i watched the same red eclipse run an 11.9, then like 16.5 or something, and then 14.9. Back to back to back runs. Seems kind of unpredictable. Is it the driver or the car?
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Originally Posted by BoOsTeDeAgLe
You usually won't be able to pick apart the fast ones from the slow ones, but chances are, if it looks like a show car it's slow. Most hardcore DSM'ers, as stated before, only care about speed. The car you mentioned sounds like it had tuning issues of some sort.
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The autos had smaller turbos for driveability. The little 13Gs they came with spool pretty much instantly. The injectors are also smaller etc like someone else said.
It was not untill pretty recently that people started making the autos fast in decent numbers. Now there are some fast ones with big turbos and nitrous for the whole shot. Seems to work pretty well.
It was not untill pretty recently that people started making the autos fast in decent numbers. Now there are some fast ones with big turbos and nitrous for the whole shot. Seems to work pretty well.
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Originally Posted by ChocoTaco369
well this car was pretty unimpressive in the looks category. see, 2 out of 3 races were from a roll, so i don't see how you can screw it up since you have no launch or anything. i mean unless the guy hit it in 4th gear at 50 mph...
Some times with bad tunes, you hit feul cut and the car slams flat on its face
Lol it feels like hitting a brick wall, my car has always been tuned very good so I dont have these problems
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Originally Posted by slick1851
Some times with bad tunes, you hit feul cut and the car slams flat on its face
Lol it feels like hitting a brick wall, my car has always been tuned very good so I dont have these problems
Lol it feels like hitting a brick wall, my car has always been tuned very good so I dont have these problems
I was pissed when that happened to me...got dsmlink mainly cause I hated fuel cut.
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I just helped my Son build his '97 GSX with the FPGreen and all supporting mods recently. He had a roll on with a stock '03 Cobra (Terminator) from 60-110 and got him by a car twice. He's making 360AWHP@ 20 PSI on pump and should put down a bit over 500@30 PSI with C-16. Not too shabby for a 3200# AWD four banger. Total mods on the car came to around 4K. Of course, he's gonna get his *** kicked as soon as I get the Brute back on the street, C-16 or not.
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From: Philly
Originally Posted by slick1851
Some times with bad tunes, you hit feul cut and the car slams flat on its face
Lol it feels like hitting a brick wall, my car has always been tuned very good so I dont have these problems
Lol it feels like hitting a brick wall, my car has always been tuned very good so I dont have these problems
he immediately slowed down and pulled into wawa a mile down the road. i hope he didn't break anything 
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Originally Posted by CharlieCobra03
I just helped my Son build his '97 GSX with the FPGreen and all supporting mods recently. He had a roll on with a stock '03 Cobra (Terminator) from 60-110 and got him by a car twice. He's making 360AWHP@ 20 PSI on pump and should put down a bit over 500@30 PSI with C-16. Not too shabby for a 3200# AWD four banger. Total mods on the car came to around 4K. Of course, he's gonna get his *** kicked as soon as I get the Brute back on the street, C-16 or not.
FPgreen is the perfect street car turbo, not too big and laggy and not too small either.