C6 ZO6 vs 03 Cobra
#163
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Originally Posted by V-seriesTech
That said....a 520rwhp vette will trap 130mph. a 560rwhp one will trap at 135ish.
and a 620rwhp Cobra. 4th gear pulls have nothing to do with it since
the line is 1320' away.
Originally Posted by V-seriesTech
I am well aware of what a 600rwhp cobra does against a 500 rwhp vette. Which is stay at it's door until about 4th gear. Then....the mustang goes bye bye. Always.
the outcome. Trust me, the guys driving know what the **** they're
doing too.
Originally Posted by V-seriesTech
Griffin,...a friend with a 611rwhp would get FUCKED up by the LSX vette crew on a regular basis.
Originally Posted by V-seriesTech
It's just the way it is man. You can **** with the AERO effect of these cars. Simple as that.
doesn't win races. ET does.
Arguing about 10 seconds cars is pretty stupid quite honestly since they
are still slow as ****. 10 second cars aren't **** these days. 9's and
you're starting to get there. 8's and you've got yourself a badass
street car.
Last edited by unit213; 12-12-2006 at 08:21 PM.
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ET doesnt mean much in a roll race....Trap speed, weight and aerodynamics are everything. It takes at least a 100rwhp advantage to the Cobra for it to even level the playing field with a Z06 from a roll......
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Originally Posted by unit213
Ok...great. So it'll be neck and neck between a 560rwhp vette
and a 620rwhp Cobra. 4th gear pulls have nothing to do with it since
the line is 1320' away.
Well my friend, I've raced plenty of them...and that certainly wasn't
the outcome. Trust me, the guys driving know what the **** they're
doing too.
Sorry about his luck.
ET and trap speed is what it's about. Aerodynamics are great, but it
doesn't win races. ET does.
Arguing about 10 seconds cars is pretty stupid quite honestly since they
are still slow as ****. 10 second cars aren't **** these days. 9's and
you're starting to get there. 8's and you've got yourself a badass
street car.
and a 620rwhp Cobra. 4th gear pulls have nothing to do with it since
the line is 1320' away.
Well my friend, I've raced plenty of them...and that certainly wasn't
the outcome. Trust me, the guys driving know what the **** they're
doing too.
Sorry about his luck.
ET and trap speed is what it's about. Aerodynamics are great, but it
doesn't win races. ET does.
Arguing about 10 seconds cars is pretty stupid quite honestly since they
are still slow as ****. 10 second cars aren't **** these days. 9's and
you're starting to get there. 8's and you've got yourself a badass
street car.
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Originally Posted by unit213
Ok...great. So it'll be neck and neck between a 560rwhp vette
and a 620rwhp Cobra. 4th gear pulls have nothing to do with it since
the line is 1320' away.
Well my friend, I've raced plenty of them...and that certainly wasn't
the outcome. Trust me, the guys driving know what the **** they're
doing too.
Sorry about his luck.
ET and trap speed is what it's about. Aerodynamics are great, but it
doesn't win races. ET does.
Arguing about 10 seconds cars is pretty stupid quite honestly since they
are still slow as ****. 10 second cars aren't **** these days. 9's and
you're starting to get there. 8's and you've got yourself a badass
street car.
and a 620rwhp Cobra. 4th gear pulls have nothing to do with it since
the line is 1320' away.
Well my friend, I've raced plenty of them...and that certainly wasn't
the outcome. Trust me, the guys driving know what the **** they're
doing too.
Sorry about his luck.
ET and trap speed is what it's about. Aerodynamics are great, but it
doesn't win races. ET does.
Arguing about 10 seconds cars is pretty stupid quite honestly since they
are still slow as ****. 10 second cars aren't **** these days. 9's and
you're starting to get there. 8's and you've got yourself a badass
street car.
#167
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Originally Posted by hunterdawgs
Why do you keep yappin' about the traps when you know that you could be 5mph faster at the line than me and I could still cross .5 ahead of you?
Originally Posted by unit213
ET and trap speed is what it's about. Aerodynamics are great, but it
doesn't win races. ET does.
racing victories since many are done from a roll. Of course weight
is a factor, but most cars are within a hundred pounds of each other.
My Cobra weighs exactly what my Z28 did.
Last edited by unit213; 12-12-2006 at 08:43 PM.
#169
Not very much knowledge about whippled cobras here I seen them run anywhere from 11.8s@125 to 10.00@138. Different boost levels, weight, car setup all play a part.
I have a whipple cobra and can assure a 10 car beating for a stock 06 Z
I have a whipple cobra and can assure a 10 car beating for a stock 06 Z
#170
Originally Posted by 88lx418
Not very much knowledge about whippled cobras here I seen them run anywhere from 11.8s@125 to 10.00@138. Different boost levels, weight, car setup all play a part.
I have a whipple cobra and can assure a 10 car beating for a stock 06 Z
I have a whipple cobra and can assure a 10 car beating for a stock 06 Z
Oh great...you just made another post to bring out the Z06 nut huggers ....DANG IT.
#171
A stock Cobra will need about 535 rwhp to be even with a 460 rwhp Z06. So, in other words, a Cobra will need ~75 rwhp more than what the Z06 has to be even, and about 75+ rwhp to beat one (This is from a roll). Two of the guys I know in GA have raced plenty of times. They are both of equal driving skills, and the outcome is always the same:
http://www.03svtcobra.net/Videos/C6Z...braRematch.wmv
C6 Z06 is ahead by 1.5 cars from a 60-135 ish. I would assume the Z06 would keep on pulling the faster the race went on.
As hp increases to both cars and the racing speeds starts to increase to 150+, the Cobra will need even more hp due to aerodynmaics advantages of the Z06. Remember that as speeds increase, aerodynamics becomes even more so of a factor in a race.
I think a Cobra with a 100 more rwhp than a C6 Z06 would win. But, it also depends on the circumstances of the race. Will a Cobra with a 100 more rwhp beat a Z06 from a 50-160? I am willing to bet it will be close. Will it win from a 50 to 135? I bet it will. Too many variables to count on, but in your "normal" 40/50-135/140 races that usualy take place, a 540+ rwhp Cobra should edge out a stock Z06 given equal drivers.
I would have loved to get some Cobra races in this past spring/summer to try this out, but somebody *cough* Unit213 *cough* never got back with me this past spring/summer like they were supposed to.. That's ok though, I wouldn't have stood a chance against his 620 rwhp monster.. (Still would have liked to try though.. )
http://www.03svtcobra.net/Videos/C6Z...braRematch.wmv
C6 Z06 is ahead by 1.5 cars from a 60-135 ish. I would assume the Z06 would keep on pulling the faster the race went on.
As hp increases to both cars and the racing speeds starts to increase to 150+, the Cobra will need even more hp due to aerodynmaics advantages of the Z06. Remember that as speeds increase, aerodynamics becomes even more so of a factor in a race.
I think a Cobra with a 100 more rwhp than a C6 Z06 would win. But, it also depends on the circumstances of the race. Will a Cobra with a 100 more rwhp beat a Z06 from a 50-160? I am willing to bet it will be close. Will it win from a 50 to 135? I bet it will. Too many variables to count on, but in your "normal" 40/50-135/140 races that usualy take place, a 540+ rwhp Cobra should edge out a stock Z06 given equal drivers.
I would have loved to get some Cobra races in this past spring/summer to try this out, but somebody *cough* Unit213 *cough* never got back with me this past spring/summer like they were supposed to.. That's ok though, I wouldn't have stood a chance against his 620 rwhp monster.. (Still would have liked to try though.. )
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Originally Posted by Fadi
I would have loved to get some Cobra races in this past spring/summer to try this out, but somebody *cough* Unit213 *cough* never got back with me this past spring/summer like they were supposed to.. That's ok though, I wouldn't have stood a chance against his 620 rwhp monster.. (Still would have liked to try though.. )
vast majority of my time these days. I travel frequently for work as
well. We'll get a few in for sure this year.
You guys are assuming that all Cobras are stock weight when making
your comparisons.
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I see it as a compliment to have everyone compare Cobras vs Vettes. There are TOTALLY different cars. It is very NICE to be able to put about 5k into a 25K Cobra and really have a 10 sec car with such good street manners and be able to run door to door and ALOT of times outrun a modded Vette. In a perfect world, most of us would have both ( and some do ) because its a bit more practical to have a 4 seater 700hp car. A street car that can trap over 130 and has room for friends and luggage is a nice bonus.
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my buddy just got a new C6 Z06 and he took me out for a ride in it 2 days ago. I must say, the thing is insane. 100 in only 2nd gear! not to mention that just cruising in 2nd at 65 mph and mashing the throttle it broke the tires loose. Deff. a Very impressive car in my opinion for being 100% stock.
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Originally Posted by kidcamaro98
my buddy just got a new C6 Z06 and he took me out for a ride in it 2 days ago. I must say, the thing is insane. 100 in only 2nd gear! not to mention that just cruising in 2nd at 65 mph and mashing the throttle it broke the tires loose. Deff. a Very impressive car in my opinion for being 100% stock.
wow...
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Originally Posted by kidcamaro98
my buddy just got a new C6 Z06 and he took me out for a ride in it 2 days ago. I must say, the thing is insane. 100 in only 2nd gear! not to mention that just cruising in 2nd at 65 mph and mashing the throttle it broke the tires loose. Deff. a Very impressive car in my opinion for being 100% stock.
Wait for the S/C version! Gonna be INSANE. Imagine a KB-C6-ZO6...man I want one.
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yah i know it they are gonna name it either the Blue devil or go with the stringray like old times....they said something like 720rwhp i believe??? if so thats a big **** you right into fords face lol
#179
Originally Posted by 88lx418
Not very much knowledge about whippled cobras here I seen them run anywhere from 11.8s@125 to 10.00@138. Different boost levels, weight, car setup all play a part.
I have a whipple cobra and can assure a 10 car beating for a stock 06 Z
I have a whipple cobra and can assure a 10 car beating for a stock 06 Z
I dont think I would want to attempt turning the wheel in a stang with underpinnings designed a 1/4 century ago while traveling any more than normal highway speeds!
Keep building bigger boosted Fords boys, we'll be here to keep you in check with cubic inches...
#180
Originally Posted by unit213
. We'll get a few in for sure this year.
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