in a street race! 2 of the same car's from a roll on the HWY! who is faster! both car's have same whp

 

Stock?

 

if the m6 driver knows how to drive and the 10 bolt doesnt break if the car hooks.. ill give it to him. it can be a toss up depending on mods.

 

when i dynoed 340/350 with bolton's i raced a 390whp a4 car 3600yank and i got him! in a street race! But at the track he would get me!

But lets just say 2 car's with same HP

 

well this in a street race from a 20-50mph roll! so no breaking problems

 

He who finds more traction wins.

Are you saying that a dig is from a 20-50mph roll? Maybe
I'm reading that wrong. A dig is well...from a dig. Dead stop.

 

both get good traction!

 

well 20mph is not a dig, its a roll. if your goin from a roll then m6

 

Equal traction, equal drivers = a W for the M6 simply because
it makes more power.

 

When i first bought my car stock i raced my friend who has a 02 stock ta a4. I have a m6 and he beat me from a dig because i did not know how to drive a stick verry well so all i did was peel out so he barely beat me. Second time we raced i had all bolt ons including headers and he still had stock and i beat him by 3-4 car lenths and shut down at 75-80mph. I cant wait to race again now that i have heads and cam.

 

i have raced many A4 cars that make more power then me an i got them from a roll! The stalls are too loose for most street races from a roll! From a stop they would take me!

 

Same exact cars, M6 will win from a roll, due to being able to utilize his rpms better.

 

Exactly

 

m6 duh

 

from a dig my monies on the automatic all the way...

At the drag strip from a dead stop I ALWAYS beat the c5 mn6's with my 2.73 geared auto C5...

It's really just simple...

My auto would do a 13.5-13.7 at 102-103 mph every single time bone stock.

While the mn6's would range from 13.4-14.1 at 99-105 mph bone stock.

Sure on a perfect run my auto would do a 13.5 at 103..while on a perfect run all my friends stock mn6 c5's would do a 13.4 at 105..

Thing is I could do a perfect run 1 out of every 3 times while they could muster a perfect run 1 out of every 6 times..

My other two non perfect runs would be a 13.6 or 13.7...Still pretty close. While their 5 non perfect runs would range from 13.5-14.1...

point of all these numbers is that when it really comes to the best of the best numbers the mn6 is faster from a roll. But if you were to look at the average numbers across the board the stock auto is faster than the stock mn6 from a dig. Just little to no driver error in the auto vrs the plenty of variables in the mn6..

HELL iVE GOT A 410 RWHP VIPER THAT i HAVE YET TO DO BETTER THAN 13.1 AT 109 MPH IN ACCORDING TO MY GTECH THINKS TO VARIABLES AND DRIVER ERROR...

I GUARANTEE THAT IF MY VIPER WAS AN AUTO AND I DYNOED 400 RWHP ( 10 LESS THAN MY MANUAL DO TO TRANSMISSION DIFFERANCES) ID BE PULLING 12.4'S AT 116 MPH IN THE AUTO..

So that clears up the hole dig thing...But I think what you were really meaning to say was a roll race...

From a 70 mph roll a mn6 would walk away from an a4 stock for stock...First off the auto LS1 dynos 290 on average for C5's and 295 on average for Fbodys vrs the manuals 300 rwhp for C5's and 305 rwhp for F bodies.

5 rwhp might not seem like a lot..But when you couple that to the fact that the auto trannies weigh 10 pounds more than the manual trannies ( 3290 pounds for a manual C5 vrs 3300 pounds for a 3.15 geared auto c5 vrs 3310 pounds for a 2.73 geared auto c5) and yes the differance of ring and pinion size for the 2.73 geared auto dose in fact weigh more than the smaller 3.15 geared auto C5 ring and pinion.


So now the manual C5 or fbody has a 5 rwhp and 10-20 pound advantage over the auto c5 or f body ( 10-20 pounds depending on if the C5 has 2.73 or 3.15 gears and if the Fbody has 2.73 or 3.23 gears)

Then theirs the gearing itself....A manual C5 is good for a trapp speed of 111 mph. While the manual Fbody is good for a trapp speed of up to 109 mph.

The 3.15 geared auto c5 is good for trapp speeds up to 108 mph while the 2.73 geared c5 is good for trapp speeds up too 106 mph.

The 2.73 geared Fbody is good for trap speeds up to 104 mph while the 3.23 geared auto Fbody is good for trapp speeds up to 107 mph...

Point is..all across the board the manual LS1's will trapp 2-3 mph higher than the 3.15 geared auto c5 and 3.23 geared fbody. And a solid 3-4 mph higher than the 2.73 geared c5 and F body.


So now theirs a 5 rwhp advatage....10-20 pound weight advantage and gearing advantage for the mn6....

Then to top all that off the mn6 can choose wich gear and what rpm it wants to be in when it hits it off the three beep at a 70 mph roll. The auto..while being able to make slight changes before the hit...Can in no way get it's rpm's to the desired level and gear like the mn6 can...

So stock for stock at a 70 mph roll the stock mn6 will put a car on the stock auto right from the hit and keep a steady slow pull from their till what ever mph.

So one point for the auto at the drag strip and one point for the manual on the freeway....Just depends on wich you prefer really.

 

No more bench racing please. There's enough here already.